I was wondering when someone would bring this up! Don't forget their attempted Kickstarter campaign for a skateboard lock (unsuccessful with only $152 raised from 5 backers). https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/2133086817/created. They did launch it anyway independent of crowd sourcing although the site no longer appears to be fully functioning. http://www.nojacklocks.com/. Hopefully, these early ventures (3 in 3 years?!) give them a foundation to weather this storm and succeed -- 4th time a charm?
Discontinued The Grasshopper
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J.D.420
420th Dragoons
Received my hopper today. Haven't gotten a chance to use it yet but it turns on fine. Only problem is I upgraded to the titanium version via email, PayPal invoice for the difference and everything but I was sent the stainless model. Has a serial number beginning with gs and it sticks to a magnet. Sooo I'm pretty sure I got the stainless model. Emailed Trevor about it, still awaiting a response. Other than the mix up the unit I received appears fine. Some tiny scratches but no huge gouges or burn marks like others have reported.
Kalessin
Well-Known Member
Was your order invoice on the grasshopper website changed to ti?
MikeG7265
Well-Known Member
Man this is starting to turn into a nightmare
J.D.420
420th Dragoons
Yep after I paid the difference the invoice changed to early bird titanium on hopper website
Spinuch
Well-Known Member
What kind of heat did you tell them is coming from the back end (temp wise)? Also how long does it take before you feel it changing temperature (total on time or hits)? I really think they need help when it comes to communication. Heat on the back end should be expected? Uh no, it shouldn't.
ragnorokk
DERP
Ah, good. Their new CS person will answer emails so Trevor can get to something that needs him specifically. The downside is that out the gate they have chosen to bat away user issues, rather than requesting further information and opening a ticket :/
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J.D.420
420th Dragoons
Initial impressions of the stainless model. First off flavor is amazing. On par with the thermovape cera, my benchmark for flavor in a portable vape. Second off the mouthpiece does get hot. I'm a regular coffee drinker so I think my lips have a tolerance for heat but this thing gets HOT. It's just tolerable at setting 4, but I had to take my lips off mid draw at setting 5 because it was becoming very uncomfortable. Silicone Mouthpiece is definitely a must for 4 and above. The back end did get slightly warm but not very hot as Ellen and others have mentioned. Certainly not as hot as the mouthpiece does.
I've had no problems unscrewing the back end either, thank jah for that. I've gotta say that despite these issues, I think I love this vape lol. Amazing build quality(when you don't get a defective unit) and the size and form factor are just perfect for me. Bottom line, was it worth the wait? For me, thats a yes
I've had no problems unscrewing the back end either, thank jah for that. I've gotta say that despite these issues, I think I love this vape lol. Amazing build quality(when you don't get a defective unit) and the size and form factor are just perfect for me. Bottom line, was it worth the wait? For me, thats a yes
MrFantastik
New Member
Got mine today as well. ss early bird with xtra charger battery and a ss case (the case wasn't included) I don't have any herb atm but I used some old stem I found lol. Works great came charged with no problems. As for the heat I didn't have any problems ripping on 4 but I waited a couple minutes between rips while I played rocket league. I can see this thing getting too hot with no mp if I take no breaks in between tho
blankexpression
Well-Known Member
Dont have any herb at the moment?? Send it over here matey, Ive got ounces of the stuff just laying around 
OF
Well-Known Member
I disagree, when current flows, things get hot. Unless the currents are very small (which they're not) or we have very heavy conductors made of low resistance materials (which we don't). Yes, it's a matter of degrees (that one never gets old......). It's often too small to notice casually perhaps, but the conductors and the battery inside both heat according to Ohm's Law. Them's the rules.
The biggest problem, I think, comes from random/intermittent shifts in level. One that 'sometimes runs hot, sometimes not' is likely to go South without warning? Something I think, to look out for?
Good to 'see' some happy owners.
OF
Spinuch
Well-Known Member
I need to not speak in absolutes, although I learn a lot more from people when I do.
When I heard they were making their own battery I was skeptical. It's not like some vaporizers don't have custom batteries but this unit is very small and very powerful. Things can go wrong in some not so pretty ways. All of this QA and QC stuff is reminding me of the infamous Van Halen story where the band had it in the contract that they needed M&Ms but that all the brown ones were to be removed. Supposedly this was to check if the venue cared enough (read through the contract thoroughly) to deal with how perfect they have to be about all the dangerous equipment and stage preparations that needed to take place. Because people could die or get hurt if someone was negligent.
Is it too late for GH to remove the brown m&ms?
Edit: Not trying to be so dramatic about danger or anything. So far unit failure hasn't been catastrophic.
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PAZ
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I'd be impressed if a unit could cause catastrophic damage, or even serious damage.
The most I could see is somehow the auto-shutoff failing, getting the unit scorching hot and the person who picks it up at this point gets a fewaburns on their fingers. The heater/components would start failing and breaking down way before something serious could happen.
1_gr8_underdog
Trapped in the Astral Planes Back from the dead
This is a example of what could happen in under ten minutes if the auto off failed and it shorted the battery. I'm not trying to cause mass panic but I feel it is important to know how dangerous these 18650's can be. Mechanical mods have been known to explode. Even protected icr batts can explode/vent/flame if the circut protection fails and they become shorted out.
Spinuch
Well-Known Member
It's purely speculation but we also don't know if the GH can relieve pressure. So even if the battery does vent(or try to)...
Edit: Ultrafire batteries are like the 1977 Ford Pinto's of the industry. I don't think GH could make such a shitty battery if they tried. Hopefully
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OF
Well-Known Member
Hopefully venting is part of the design, it's a well known issue, other vapes seem to be on board with it.
Ultralife might be low end, but the potential is a function of the technology, all such batteries have this potential. If you look under the positive terminal you can usually see the burst diaphragm (safety) through the vents. There's a LOT of energy stored there. This is why they don't let them on airplanes......no matter the brand.
Rest assured GH did not go into the battery making business, they like many others are no doubt contracting them out to an existing 'battery house'. The "threshold of entry" to the battery business (cost to make first articles) is huge, probably exceeding the GH total budget? Not to mention that battery production has the same 'rules' as vape production, IMO they would be waist deep in reject batteries if they were also 'breaking into that business'.
IMO this one's a clear "buy" in the classic 'make or buy' school. Best plan is probably COTS (Commercial, Off The Shelf), followed by a custom run from an established maker.
OF
Jack Sprat
Well-Known Member
Are the GH batteries protected?
OF
Well-Known Member
I doubt it, that would, I think mean making a custom PCB and increase the cost. I suspect protection functions are built into the GH itself.
Besides the protection boards are there to protect the battery basically, they can still 'melt down' from some failures.
I see no reason to think it's not safe, but also don't know the important details?
OF
Spinuch
Well-Known Member
I forget where someone asked how many clicks will the GH function for. Well here's a video of the internals. https://instagram.com/p/oRhDxOq_4d/ . Not very different from a regular pen other than that brass bushing.
In my experience pens work until they don't anymore
In my experience pens work until they don't anymore
Mr. Me2
Well-Known Member
But pens don't have a lifetime warranty...I forget where someone asked how many clicks will the GH function for. Well here's a video of the internals. https://instagram.com/p/oRhDxOq_4d/ . Not very different from a regular pen other than that brass bushing.
In my experience pens work until they don't anymore
