ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
I have at least 11 different stains....
On my shirt

Ok so what they look amazing

Death star again on the t.v. channel 125

Thats as far as my choice for cannabis goes. Dang they need to legalize this here, its like you live in another world man.lol...Im going to have to take a trip to Colorado and Im taking my nano with me.

I love my E Nano!!
2016 is the year for the end of cannabis prohibition!

Federally!

@flotntoke California with it's fertile soil and ocean breeze!

The West Coast has the best cannabis like our wine!

HAWAII out doors blows away any indoor cultivation!
 
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flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Yeah, my adjustable stem broke too when I tried to take it off my nano. All the glass that was shipped with my nano broke within the day of opening my package. That nano does make a pretty paper weight though haha. Emailed customer service but have yet to hear back, sounds like they are getting a lot of RMAs lately.

Edit: Can anyone suggest a 3rd party GonG 18mm that is well made?

Really not trying to give you a hard time, but I have to ask.... why did you put it all the way on, or even try with the GonG? You first said...

mine just arrived but my GonG adapter it came with won't fit onto the nano :(. The glass stem fits mostly fine, but its hard to get on and off. The 18mm GonG won't fit at all. Suggestions?
(emphasis added)

Suggestions on how you could make do until you got properly fitting glass were made, but seems like you chose to jam it on there to the point of breaking anyway - twice!. It's your stuff you busted up. Certainly your prerogative to use or abuse however you like, but I'm baffled as to why anyone would want to make a new vape totally unusable instead of making it work as well or as long as they could until they were straightened out with properly fitting glass. Yes, it should have been right in the first place - no doubt and no argument there! But, others have had similar issues and made it work well enough to use for the week or so it took to get replacements. Really hope others who may get bad glass in the future learn from this - whether they choose to impatiently destroy what they have, or make it work for the interim.

Check out Joda Glassworks for nice 3rd party stuff. He does beautiful work, but a good bit pricier and probably a much longer wait.

EDIT: Alan, who makes the HI has told me some of his glass will fit on the nano too, and seem to remember reading the same here or in HI thread. You'll have to do a little digging, but that thread is here.

JoDa has a great track record.

Do love his stuff, but IME a "good" track record. Had a minor issue here, too (nano end was a tad too big and nano fell right through pushing screen down and full load into bubb - UGH!). But, he made it right and had a replacement out to me in a couple days. No real complaints, and don't get me wrong - I'll probably buy more lovely glass from him in the future! Just trying to make point that these things happen with glass custom fit to close tolerances. Probably even more so in a larger production environment while trying to do many as inexpensively as possible.
 
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SSVUN~YAH

You Must Unlearn, What You Have Learned...
EDIT: Alan, who makes the HI has told me some of his glass will fit on the nano too, and seem to remember reading the same here or in HI thread. You'll have to do a little digging, but that thread is here.
Yup the outer core fitting stems and gong/WonG's for the HI and UD fit the Nano. The inner core S'S tips don't. You have to hover or use o rings to stabilize, a nice advantage to the Nano gongs. Although the Nano gongs don't work well with the UD or HI, so I end up using my Nano gongs less bc it's not as versatile as my others.
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Yup the outer core fitting stems and gong/WonG's for the HI and UD fit the Nano. The inner core S'S tips don't. You have to hover or use o rings to stabilize, a nice advantage to the Nano gongs. Although the Nano gongs don't work well with the UD or HI, so I end up using my Nano gongs less bc it's not as versatile as my others.

Thanks much @SSVUN~YAH !! Should have known you were the one to ask, oh Master of the Log. Really must try these sometime. But, could be tricky for me. I'm so used to the Epic GonGs and pulling to clear using the rolled silicone. Even on those rare occasions I have my solo on a piece (always with Joda carbed GonG), my finger still instinctively drops once I get half way into the session and my attention isn't quite as focused.
 

highflier

Member
Check out Joda Glassworks for nice 3rd party stuff. He does beautiful work, but a good bit pricier and probably a much longer wait..

I put in RMA's for my two stems and I also ordered a custom one from JoDa. The prices were affordable considering it's a custom made piece and you can give some input on what you'd like to see. The wait time is about 3-5 weeks. Hoping Epic can replace my stems quickly as I know I've yet to experience the full potential the nano has to offer.
 

Alt101

Well-Known Member
Really not trying to give you a hard time, but I have to ask.... why did you put it all the way on, or even try with the GonG

Both items broke on my first attempt to use them. The stem fit on then broke when taking it off. This all happened within the first 5 minutes of opening the package. The power cord was still sitting in the shipping packaging. Obviously I didn't intend to break my brand new stuff and I am not the only one having these problems. The glass honestly feels like sugar glass it's so fragile. Whomever they buy their glass from needs to be replaced because this glass is cheap as hell. You've got good glass, your lucky. You are right, I probably should have waited another few days to get replacement shipped to me but it really doesn't matter given how quickly the glass broke, the heat from the nano would have cracked the glass from expansion regardless. I have no problem waiting for my replacements, which I had to do regardless. I am just disappointed in how crap the glass is that ships with this vaporizer is and I'm clearly not the only one having problems. If they know that their glass is not great, why would they not check the items before sale? That is just bad business in my opinion, shipping defective items. I completely understand they are busy, and I would have rather waited to get some parts that were tested to ensure they fit and work. People who are having these problems are stuck with unusable devices regardless, and now they need to pay more shipping to send out replacement parts. As for the work arounds with using a silicone sleeve to hold the pieces together, I'd rather not put that directly on the heater personally. The last thing I want to be doing is heating and inhaling that.

My two cents aways
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
@Chezgreendream what I've noticed with the Nano is that even though my bud gets really toasted at the end, it still has really great flavor. With my Solo I don't run my herb through a second session even though there is some golden flecks left in the ABV. I save it for edibles, it's just not as flavorful at the end .

The Nano I vaporize until my ABV is a coffee color. The flavor stays all the way to the end., it thoroughly extracts all the goodies.
 

Chezgreendream

First the flavor, then the buZzz settles in....
I much as I love my glass, I think the best Nano experience comes from a turned wood stem that matches the nano.

Cant get enough of Eds TnT

Yes there is something about wood that makes it aesthetically pleasing. I also think the wood gives off a certain energy to people. Each one uniquely distinct from the other.

Its also a plus if you got the match.lol
 

frostyrod

Well-Known Member
Both items broke on my first attempt to use them. The stem fit on then broke when taking it off. This all happened within the first 5 minutes of opening the package. The power cord was still sitting in the shipping packaging. Obviously I didn't intend to break my brand new stuff and I am not the only one having these problems. The glass honestly feels like sugar glass it's so fragile. Whomever they buy their glass from needs to be replaced because this glass is cheap as hell. You've got good glass, your lucky. You are right, I probably should have waited another few days to get replacement shipped to me but it really doesn't matter given how quickly the glass broke, the heat from the nano would have cracked the glass from expansion regardless. I have no problem waiting for my replacements, which I had to do regardless. I am just disappointed in how crap the glass is that ships with this vaporizer is and I'm clearly not the only one having problems. If they know that their glass is not great, why would they not check the items before sale? That is just bad business in my opinion, shipping defective items. I completely understand they are busy, and I would have rather waited to get some parts that were tested to ensure they fit and work. People who are having these problems are stuck with unusable devices regardless, and now they need to pay more shipping to send out replacement parts. As for the work arounds with using a silicone sleeve to hold the pieces together, I'd rather not put that directly on the heater personally. The last thing I want to be doing is heating and inhaling that.

My two cents aways

I have never in my life complained about a company making a mistake. Mistakes happen, hell with the amount of people running the company and the volume they have had recently I'm surprised there are not more. However, if there is a mistake made and the company doesn't fix it then I have a problem, that has never been an issue with this company. I have read all 539 pages of this Thread and have not one time seen the owners of this company not take care of a person that has had a problem with their product. Probably even when the negligence was completely on that person and not the product. I'm not saying thats the case here, i'm just saying have a little patience and maybe not make such a big deal about some bad glass, you are going to be take care of. It's probably not a good policy in general to jump on a community and start bitching about how disappointed you are in a company and product that has really been such a wonderful thing for so many people. Very few people here are going to take too kindly to you trying to make these people and this company sound anything but Amazing which is what they are, even when they make mistakes. So you have to wait another week... Jesus first world problems right?
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
I know this is really random, but.....Am I wrong for charring my bud....and liking it?

Oh yeah, wheh he talks, listen.....words of wisdom @SSVUN~YAH. Thanks man.

Nothing wrong with that at all if that's how you like it! Mine sometimes gets pretty dark if I'm not paying attention and squeezing all I can out of it. Not really crazy about where the flavor goes when it goes past coffee brown colored, though. As @CarolKing mentioned, flavor doesn't seem to get as funky as in other vapes, but I can still find that point where that burnt popcorn taste is too prominent for my liking. Plus, my ABV is usually going somewhere else before the trash so I don't mind leaving some actives for later.

Both items broke on my first attempt to use them. The stem fit on then broke when taking it off. This all happened within the first 5 minutes of opening the package. The power cord was still sitting in the shipping packaging. Obviously I didn't intend to break my brand new stuff and I am not the only one having these problems. The glass honestly feels like sugar glass it's so fragile. Whomever they buy their glass from needs to be replaced because this glass is cheap as hell. You've got good glass, your lucky. You are right, I probably should have waited another few days to get replacement shipped to me but it really doesn't matter given how quickly the glass broke, the heat from the nano would have cracked the glass from expansion regardless. I have no problem waiting for my replacements, which I had to do regardless. I am just disappointed in how crap the glass is that ships with this vaporizer is and I'm clearly not the only one having problems. If they know that their glass is not great, why would they not check the items before sale? That is just bad business in my opinion, shipping defective items. I completely understand they are busy, and I would have rather waited to get some parts that were tested to ensure they fit and work. People who are having these problems are stuck with unusable devices regardless, and now they need to pay more shipping to send out replacement parts. As for the work arounds with using a silicone sleeve to hold the pieces together, I'd rather not put that directly on the heater personally. The last thing I want to be doing is heating and inhaling that.

My two cents aways

OK then. But seems that others who had the same problem are now vaping and waiting, instead of just looking at their unusable "paperweight" and not vaping while waiting. Others before this have made it work pretty well, too.

The silicone was only one suggestion. It works well (I used silicone similarly to adjust screen height sometimes long before adjust-a-bowls) and I'm pretty sure at least one popular log used it exclusively for stem connection for a few years. You could probably still use a piece of silicone to rig something up with a little creativity. I get you in not feeling comfortable with it, though I think the heat tolerances are well within spec if Epic is still using high temp food grade silicone.

Haven't seen your glass in person, and it may well be "sugar glass" as you call it. But, have no doubts mine would break too if trying to force on or off a metal tube. This can put much more stress on the glass than even dropping it. When you "wedge" glass it breaks very easily - even if wedging with the exact same type of glass. Wedging the inside of a glass cylinder with metal? It isn't going to take much force to break pretty much any borosilicate. Also find it interesting how sure you seem the heat would've caused the glass to crack when you broke both pieces of yours without even pulling the cord from the box!

Again, I totally agree it should fit and work well right out of the box, and shipping defective items is a poor way to go. But, think the first suggestion I made was to butt the glass up against the metal as best you can and make adjustments to heat and screen as necessary (along with a suggestion where to look for more info).

There are way too many cases of this issue IMO, but IIRC you're the only one to actually break glass because of it (EDIT: Correction, think there was one other). And, I'm pretty sure from other posts here that you're the only one who now has an unusable nano. They may not be working optimally or even as intended, but others are making it work and are vaping while they wait for replacement glass.

Maybe I'm wrong here, but to do it twice in less than 24 hours (or is it now within 5 minutes?) sure seems like a bit of user error. How does that popular Einstein quote about insanity go again? Maybe you just got a really bad one (missed trip to kiln or whatever?) and it was weaker than what others received and are making work. But two? Strikes me as odd that others are having the same issue, but we haven't seen any other reports of breakage. And, they're actually vaping with their poor fitting glass. Yet, somehow you got two weak pieces that broke instantly. Maybe it's just bad luck? Probabilities aren't always right, even Mr. Spock admits that, but the greatest probability is that they will be.

You may be better off getting one of Ed's TNT wood stems. It has a stainless steel end and no glass at all, and from what I have seen would be pretty difficult to break.

@frostyrod , yeah... that's part of it. I'm one of the biggest fanboys on here for the nano, and do hate to see people down-talking it or Epicvape. As you've seen, I'll usually jump up in their defense pretty quickly. What gets me in this particular case is that the person was aware of poor fitting glass, tried to put it on like it wasn't, and now is going on about how poorly made the glass is. It's not always the best. I've bought glass from Epicvape on more than a few occasions over the past couple years, and honestly haven't seen two from different shipments be exactly the same. Some is better, some not so much, but fortunately all functional and never so much as a crack in any of it.

As I just kind of said above... one piece being that poorly made is something that could definitely happen. Or, everyone's glass breaking because the current pieces are so poorly made would be understandable (though very poor on Epicvape's part!). Either would make sense. But for one person to happen to get two different types of glass pieces (and therefore unlikely from the same production batch) and break them both before even plugging the nano in - even though they knew neither fit well, reported it here, asked for suggestions and received them about what to do - is a bit different.
 
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frostyrod

Well-Known Member
Weird Sunday! Was expecting my Nano yesterday from Massdrop. It didn't show up so I refreshed my tracking info today to see if they updated delivery for tomorrow... And lo and behold the USPS delivered it TODAY!! What? I really do live in a brave new world lol. I've only done a couple test pinches to try (baby baby pinches of material) With some indoor Girl Scout Cookie. Good flavor and I am wrecked! I ordered an Ed's TnT Cocobolo Stem when I first committed to the Massdrop so i've had it for ages just waiting for my Nano so thats what I used to try it out... BTW both the glass stem I got and 14mm GonG that I got fit perfectly and the stem is some of the thickest glass i've seen on a vape piece so I don't know where some of this mystery thin fragile glass is coming from I think i'd have to wrench the hell out of this stem to break it "Shrug". So without further ado here is my beautiful Walnut Nano w/ Ed's TnT cocobolo stem... Such a perfect pairing if I don't say so myself. Edit: I just realized my Nano, stem, and grinder are all made in the USA! (And the fun green stuff inside the stem)
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Neceros

Well-Known Member
Just bought another gong. Keep having this concern I might break the one I have and then what... sol.

Still can't find a good essential oils bowl, though. I'd like to use this as aroma therapy. Anyone know a place I can get one, since EV is out?
 

syrupy

Authorized Buyer
I much as I love my glass, I think the best Nano experience comes from a turned wood stem that matches the nano.

Cant get enough of Eds TnT

JoDa makes a mean drip GonG. Mine has survived so many falls I may name it Jackie Chan. It's bowl is long and narrow, and let's the screen sit farther back, so the whole thing extracts before the top flower turns dark.
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I use the Solo aroma therapy bowl with the Enano. It seems to work out fine, I have several different scented oils.

Enjoying a bowl of some pineapple kush in the Nano tonight a little nightcap.

Here's my walnut custom unit with some oil. I love the wave in the pattern.
 
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Andreaerdna

If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
I much as I love my glass, I think the best Nano experience comes from a turned wood stem that matches the nano.

Cant get enough of Eds TnT

Hello @FlyingLow,

I have an @Eds wong and while I love its beauty and perfect handcraft I prefer to use originals gong because when you put nano on Eds wong, if you do not keep it suspended, it ends compacting the load while with glass there is a "stop" and nano rest suspended above the load leaving a better air flow..
is there is a trick I'm missing?
 
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ACE OF VAPE

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Just bought another gong. Keep having this concern I might break the one I have and then what... sol.

Still can't find a good essential oils bowl, though. I'd like to use this as aroma therapy. Anyone know a place I can get one, since EV is out?
Essential oil bowls are back in stock, as is just about everything else right now. On a side note just bought some amazing crotch walnut and premium walnut wood. Pics to follow this week.

Glass Note: We did have some inconsistencies with our last glass order, however; all the glass pieces are tested on a sample E-Nano before they are shipped so it's confusing when one doesn't fit when a customer receives it. We have also recently switched tubing diameters so the glass comes to us the correct size (as correct as possible, as it varies ever so slightly from tube to tube) and doesn't need to be hand molded as in the past. In the meantime remember all of our glass pieces are guaranteed for 30 days whether it's a defect or shipping issue. All we require is a picture of the defective piece.
 

Neceros

Well-Known Member
Essential oil bowls are back in stock, as is just about everything else right now. On a side note just bought some amazing crotch walnut and premium walnut wood. Pics to follow this week.

Glass Note: We did have some inconsistencies with our last glass order, however; all the glass pieces are tested on a sample E-Nano before they are shipped so it's confusing when one doesn't fit when a customer receives it. We have also recently switched tubing diameters so the glass comes to us the correct size (as correct as possible, as it varies ever so slightly from tube to tube) and doesn't need to be hand molded as in the past. In the meantime remember all of our glass pieces are guaranteed for 30 days whether it's a defect or shipping issue. All we require is a picture of the defective piece.
Well, shoot. That's good to hear, but I literally just ordered a solo cup. Double suck because I ordered a 18mm gong few hours ago! Oh well.
 

Gray Area

Well-Known Member
Hello @FlyingLow,

I have an @Eds wong and while I love its beauty and perfect handcraft I prefer to use originals gong because when you put nano on Eds wong, if you do not keep it suspended, it ends compacting the load while with glass there is a "stop" and nano rest suspended above the load leaving a better air flow..
is there is a trick I'm missing?

Yes, I have a WonG and stem that both had this issue... I fixed it by VERY GENTLY and ONLY VERY SLIGHTLY pinching the end of the metal with a pair of small pliers, a bit at a time until it stopped at the "stop" and wouldn't slide down. Have done this with my stem too and it works fine.
Sorry for the bold caps, but I don't wan't to be responsible for you ruining your wong if you overdo it. You really only need to exert the tiniest amount of pressure, equally all around by turning the wong/stem until it stops at the stop... there is no visible change after it's done, it's that small an adjustment :tup:
 

NickDlow

Log Hog
Hello @FlyingLow,

I have an @Eds wong and while I love its beauty and perfect handcraft I prefer to use originals gong because when you put nano on Eds wong, if you do not keep it suspended, it ends compacting the load while with glass there is a "stop" and nano rest suspended above the load leaving a better air flow..
is there is a trick I'm missing?

@Gray Area has a good suggestion.

My for my nano I put a high temp silicone oring on the core where I want the stem to stop n rest on. I got mine from UnderDog, as I use them with my UD also. 5pk for $3 here's the link. HERE
 

Andreaerdna

If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
thanks to you both!
I like @Gray Area idea more because it doesn't add anything in airpath but it is way too risky without some training on a testing piece (choosing the good distance where to pinch is already not easy - due to fixed screen - but the pinching itself could damage the wong)
@NickDlow only negative aspect is the silicone ring staying for long periods (all week end) on a very hot heat port (around 7 - 7.25) near airpath, can it stand it without offgassing something at some point?
Did you already use it on nano for at least 36hrs on 7? Does it get signs of alteration? Does it get sticky at some point?

Thanks again, I love this place!
 

NickDlow

Log Hog
thanks to you both!
I like @Gray Area idea more because it doesn't add anything in airpath but it is way too risky without some training on a testing piece (choosing the good distance where to pinch is already not easy - due to fixed screen - but the pinching itself could damage the wong)
@NickDlow only negative aspect is the silicone ring staying for long periods (all week end) on a very hot heat port (around 7 - 7.25) near airpath, can it stand it without offgassing something at some point?
Did you already use it on nano for at least 36hrs on 7? Does it get signs of alteration? Does it get sticky at some point?

Thanks again, I love this place!

No not 36hrs. I've had it on for about 36 weeks 24/7 with zero signs of degradation. There is zero off gassing and zero stickiness. They're designed for use with high temps. Also it's not in the air path, the hot air come from inside the core. If anything the cooler air passes it. Also a positive is that it creates a seal on the end of the stem. I'll ask Dave the specific temp they're rated to and edit this post or make another. To each his own. Do what you're comfortable with and enjoy.
 
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