BEST TEMP INSOMNIA RELATED TO (PTSD) MIGHTY VAPE.

herbivore21

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Now the damn thing isn't helping me sleep. It is stimulating me more than sedating me. Back to combustion I go...... :bang:
Bro you need to start getting concentrates. Get yourself a cheap kief screen and do a bowl of kief. That will get you to sleep without question :D

Trust me when I say that I went from 0-2 hours a night now to 6-8 reliably using concentrates. Flowers never helped in anything close to the same way! They just don't last long enough or have strong enough effect for me.

Remember that flowers and higher temps can still make you more awake (especially depending on strain!).

I know I am harping on this point, but man we need to sleep every night, and if we are combusting every night to get to sleep, the cumulative effects of this combustion are not gonna be good. I don't wanna see you damaging your body unnecessarily because of insomnia (which as we both know all too well is so debilitating on its own!).

Use the oil that builds up in your cooling unit or dry sift those crystals off your bud. A kief screen will cost you so, so little and make a huge difference. I am a huge concentrate user and am so used to dabbing oils all the time, but I'd honestly get by just fine with regard to my insomnia if I just had bud and a kief screen :)

Also use a water piece so that you can do massive hits and get where you need to be quickly if possible. Still, the main difference will be made by a little bit of kief or reclaim oil at night, especially since your tolerance is quite low :)

Please do give this a try man, if you have any questions just drop me a line (tag me in the post though so I get a notification). Sorry I didn't see your later posts til now!
 
herbivore21,
Bro you need to start getting concentrates. Get yourself a cheap kief screen and do a bowl of kief. That will get you to sleep without question :D

Trust me when I say that I went from 0-2 hours a night now to 6-8 reliably using concentrates. Flowers never helped in anything close to the same way! They just don't last long enough or have strong enough effect for me.

Remember that flowers and higher temps can still make you more awake (especially depending on strain!).

I know I am harping on this point, but man we need to sleep every night, and if we are combusting every night to get to sleep, the cumulative effects of this combustion are not gonna be good. I don't wanna see you damaging your body unnecessarily because of insomnia (which as we both know all too well is so debilitating on its own!).

Use the oil that builds up in your cooling unit or dry sift those crystals off your bud. A kief screen will cost you so, so little and make a huge difference. I am a huge concentrate user and am so used to dabbing oils all the time, but I'd honestly get by just fine with regard to my insomnia if I just had bud and a kief screen :)

Also use a water piece so that you can do massive hits and get where you need to be quickly if possible. Still, the main difference will be made by a little bit of kief or reclaim oil at night, especially since your tolerance is quite low :)

Please do give this a try man, if you have any questions just drop me a line (tag me in the post though so I get a notification). Sorry I didn't see your later posts til now!
Of all the dispensaries I've looked at online (their menus online) in the area that im a patient, the only indica concentrates that i can find that i think would work for me is bubble hash or an indica CO2 oil... but i dont know concentrates at all, never tried them before. How would you recommend i do it in my mighty vape? drops or a lot of oil on the liquid pad? what temps? and the hash, someone suggested cutting the pad in half and sandwiching some crumbles in there...what do you think? do i even need the pad for hash? any suggestions? thanks so much for the help!
 
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herbivore21

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Of all the dispensaries I've looked at online (their menus online) in the area that im a patient, the only indica concentrates that i can find that i think would work for me is bubble hash or an indica CO2 oil... but i dont know concentrates at all, never tried them before. How would you recommend i do it in my mighty vape? drops or a lot of oil on the liquid pad? what temps? and the hash, someone suggested cutting the pad in half and sandwiching some crumbles in there...what do you think? do i even need the pad for hash? any suggestions? thanks so much for the help!
OMG bubble hash is exactly what you need!

You should cut the pad in half (yes, I know this sounds strange, actually not in half but roughly a 60/40 cut), then put the thinner half in the bottom of the Might bowl, then put a layer of bubble hash over the top of it (2-5mm thick is all you need, make sure the layer fully covers the entire concentrate pad below with no gaps for air to get around). Then put the top 60% piece of concentrate pad on top to sandwich it.

Hit this load at about 200c (395f or so) and you will have great sleep! Bubble hash is what I regularly use for sleep purposes :) You'll get gigantic clouds from it so it might be worth getting some glass to use to take the harshness off (please do not make bongs out of plastic bottles, the hot vapor can and will take chemicals from the plastic along into your airways!).

For oil, just dab it in the folds in the concentrate pad (don't put concentrates directly above or below the heater or cooling unit screens, it'll gunk them right up and your heater too without the concentrate pads!). Hope this helps bro :)
 
OMG bubble hash is exactly what you need!

You should cut the pad in half (yes, I know this sounds strange, actually not in half but roughly a 60/40 cut), then put the thinner half in the bottom of the Might bowl, then put a layer of bubble hash over the top of it (2-5mm thick is all you need, make sure the layer fully covers the entire concentrate pad below with no gaps for air to get around). Then put the top 60% piece of concentrate pad on top to sandwich it.

Hit this load at about 200c (395f or so) and you will have great sleep! Bubble hash is what I regularly use for sleep purposes :) You'll get gigantic clouds from it so it might be worth getting some glass to use to take the harshness off (please do not make bongs out of plastic bottles, the hot vapor can and will take chemicals from the plastic along into your airways!).

For oil, just dab it in the folds in the concentrate pad (don't put concentrates directly above or below the heater or cooling unit screens, it'll gunk them right up and your heater too without the concentrate pads!). Hope this helps bro :)
Thank you so much for giving me hope again!! I will get some bubble hash and give you a full report. P.S. So just to clarify, do you mean cut the pad like a bagel?? Not a sandwhich LOL sorry!!! Im A NEWB!!!
 

herbivore21

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Thank you so much for giving me hope again!! I will get some bubble hash and give you a full report. P.S. So just to clarify, do you mean cut the pad like a bagel?? Not a sandwhich LOL sorry!!! Im A NEWB!!!
Yes, cut it horizontally, so that it has the same diameter as the concentrate pad originally had, but you are left with two thinner round concentrate pads, one to go on top of the heater screen in the Mighty and one to sandwich your concentrate on top :)
 

Clouding

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do you put the liquid pad in the chamber over the herb? i find that this helps. that + a little dab of concentrate or cooling unit reclaim does it for me.

Yes the liquid pad is great, and not only for concentrates, I use it every time I vape alone or wanting to be economic. Its in the Mighty manual: the material wont fly around, when using smaller amounts, I think its both a heat and air issue with the pad, and it defo affect my economy... I get a lot out of less than half a bowl and I got a high tolerance!

And with tolerance, its not just the amounts, its also how you use it. Burning is much more aggressive than vaping, but its only for a period, till your tolerance/routine changes. Do not give up and using a lil more material in the start should be ok. There will be a transitional phase, maybe days, maybe weeks...

And the Mighty is both too expensive and too good, not getting used, have some patience!

I´ve gone from many joints and cigs to a few daily joints, and thats a big thing for me personally, but you too should feel the difference, the smell, taste, throat and lungs: Use that luxurious machine you bought:)


Also indica should slow you down, but I´d still go for oil or hash for sleep... you can reclaim oil/hash from the Mighty cooling unit, I´ve been vaping it this week, and it should get you down. Buying concentrates is maybe overkill, depending on where you live. It cost 10 times of what ok hash or skunk costs here and its not 10x times stronger. Paying for exclusivity like macintosh:( But "make" your own, just reclaim it from the cooling unit... Its very easy, but there should be videos on youtube if necessary.

And again: max out the temp on the Mighty, should get you low and sleepy instead of high and flying...

Also think out of the box, I need a lot of thc to really go out with a bang, like prescription/medicine. But lowering my caffeine intake really does a difference. the same with physical activity and routine/rhythm/bedtimes/boring stuff!
 

Clouding

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Thank you so much for giving me hope again!! I will get some bubble hash and give you a full report. P.S. So just to clarify, do you mean cut the pad like a bagel?? Not a sandwhich LOL sorry!!! Im A NEWB!!!


Great with the bubble, and it shouldnt neccesarily fuck up your tolerance, Ive had good experiences with small amounts of various concentrates. And your tolerance is much lower than mine, Im sure you can enjoy real small amounts. Also the taste is amazing on Storz/Bickel devices:D

And if you want to be cheap like me, time your shut off... and take the last hits after shut off, the battery will heat a minute or two after shut off... so you wont waste anything!

And then save the rest for your next evening ritual!


And use a knife to cut the pad in half, its really easy material to work with... there is also a huge cleaning benefit, very lil material will leak up and down, and you will have less cleaning.

But remember, some day your Mighty wont deliver, the airflow will be dead... then its time to clean the cooling unit. And time to reclaim hash/oils built up inside the cooling chamber:)
 

Clouding

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Bro you need to start getting concentrates. Get yourself a cheap kief screen and do a bowl of kief. That will get you to sleep without question :D

Trust me when I say that I went from 0-2 hours a night now to 6-8 reliably using concentrates. Flowers never helped in anything close to the same way! They just don't last long enough or have strong enough effect for me.

Remember that flowers and higher temps can still make you more awake (especially depending on strain!).

I know I am harping on this point, but man we need to sleep every night, and if we are combusting every night to get to sleep, the cumulative effects of this combustion are not gonna be good. I don't wanna see you damaging your body unnecessarily because of insomnia (which as we both know all too well is so debilitating on its own!).

Use the oil that builds up in your cooling unit or dry sift those crystals off your bud. A kief screen will cost you so, so little and make a huge difference. I am a huge concentrate user and am so used to dabbing oils all the time, but I'd honestly get by just fine with regard to my insomnia if I just had bud and a kief screen :)

Also use a water piece so that you can do massive hits and get where you need to be quickly if possible. Still, the main difference will be made by a little bit of kief or reclaim oil at night, especially since your tolerance is quite low :)

Please do give this a try man, if you have any questions just drop me a line (tag me in the post though so I get a notification). Sorry I didn't see your later posts til now!


Lots of interesting thoughts, Ive had imsomnia/issues for more than 25 years, since the introduction of caffeine and computers;)

Im in europe tho and concentrates are priced like "exclusivity" too expensive for most people as daily driver... But I should gather crystals from my weed from now on 1. to get the crystals... 2. to lower my tolerance in the day hours... 3. Saving the more heavy bits for nitetime, win win win!

Do you press the crystals with a pollen presser? I got one from Space Case and I love how tight it becomes... and the product is very easy to store after being pressed, it feels like real exclusive hash!


I just got The Lotus Vaporizer and it works great with european mid/end hash, but the torch lighter is a nuisance at night... I´m sure I´ve woke the girl upstairs up atleast one time cos of the lighter noise, so I try to restrict the use at night (when I need it the most:uhoh:)!

I was almost feeling chemically medicated yesterday, which made me go to bed one hour earlier and I also fell asleep faster being in bed. Which really impressed me and defo thx to this low-tech machine...

But is there an electronic and SILENT alternative? (High temp/heating for euopean mid end hash)

I will ask Norvape about this later, him living closer to my country, meaning we probably share the same types of hash.


Also plastic bottle, agreed, I use glass, and wow, Mighty really delivers insane clouds, many smokers feel insatiable using vaporizers, but using the Mighty with a water piece should cure that!

But it doesnt seem to be an issue for Compassion... and your home can quickly look like a display room / glass / vapes / gear / mess, and I dont think he wants that, being a light weight user. I love the heavy set up, but I see why most would want a light setup, Mighty and that orange stashbox:)Too each his own...
 

Clouding

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Of all the dispensaries I've looked at online (their menus online) in the area that im a patient, the only indica concentrates that i can find that i think would work for me is bubble hash or an indica CO2 oil... but i dont know concentrates at all, never tried them before. How would you recommend i do it in my mighty vape? drops or a lot of oil on the liquid pad? what temps? and the hash, someone suggested cutting the pad in half and sandwiching some crumbles in there...what do you think? do i even need the pad for hash? any suggestions? thanks so much for the help!

I would try both the oil and the bubble, what are the prices?

I hope/think you can go down on real low doses!

And sorry for jackin´your thread, I kinda got the same problem, but the solution in europe isnt necessarily oil or bubble... lots of cheap and good hash is produced in northern Africa, so it would be almost unfair not to support their effort and products:love:

And also remember its more than medication, especially caffeine can be a problem, but also other stimulants: entertainment is a devil :)
 
I would try both the oil and the bubble, what are the prices?

I hope/think you can go down on real low doses!

And sorry for jackin´your thread, I kinda got the same problem, but the solution in europe isnt necessarily oil or bubble... lots of cheap and good hash is produced in northern Africa, so it would be almost unfair not to support their effort and products:love:

And also remember its more than medication, especially caffeine can be a problem, but also other stimulants: entertainment is a devil :)
Yes the liquid pad is great, and not only for concentrates, I use it every time I vape alone or wanting to be economic. Its in the Mighty manual: the material wont fly around, when using smaller amounts, I think its both a heat and air issue with the pad, and it defo affect my economy... I get a lot out of less than half a bowl and I got a high tolerance!

And with tolerance, its not just the amounts, its also how you use it. Burning is much more aggressive than vaping, but its only for a period, till your tolerance/routine changes. Do not give up and using a lil more material in the start should be ok. There will be a transitional phase, maybe days, maybe weeks...

And the Mighty is both too expensive and too good, not getting used, have some patience!

I´ve gone from many joints and cigs to a few daily joints, and thats a big thing for me personally, but you too should feel the difference, the smell, taste, throat and lungs: Use that luxurious machine you bought:)


Also indica should slow you down, but I´d still go for oil or hash for sleep... you can reclaim oil/hash from the Mighty cooling unit, I´ve been vaping it this week, and it should get you down. Buying concentrates is maybe overkill, depending on where you live. It cost 10 times of what ok hash or skunk costs here and its not 10x times stronger. Paying for exclusivity like macintosh:( But "make" your own, just reclaim it from the cooling unit... Its very easy, but there should be videos on youtube if necessary.

And again: max out the temp on the Mighty, should get you low and sleepy instead of high and flying...

Also think out of the box, I need a lot of thc to really go out with a bang, like prescription/medicine. But lowering my caffeine intake really does a difference. the same with physical activity and routine/rhythm/bedtimes/boring stuff!

I saw on another thread on this website where someone just placed the whole pad in the chamber, then put just a little shatter on top. No (no cutting in half horizontally) sandwhich method?? Is that ok too?? Or should I do the sandwhich method?? Thanks for all the insight, and support on my Insomnia issues clouding!! P.S.S. Don't worry about taking over a thread haha. Its all good. :tup:We are all on the same team!!! God Bless!!!:peace:
 
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Compassion,

mightyhigh

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i sandwich sometimes and when using concentrates alone i put them on top of the pad
i wouldn't try this with only half a pad though
- or if i did i would be careful not to let it leak into the heating chamber
both methods worked great last night for the my morning jacket concert
taking the mighty to see phish this weekend
great week for the mighty!
 

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Why does shatter, oil, or hash work better in the vape for sleep than flower?? Isn't must of that stuff just pure THC? Should I still be looking for indica dom conentrates? or does it really matter. On some of the menu's it just says bubble hash, it is not strain specific. P.S. I saw on another thread on this website where someone just placed the whole pad in the chamber, then put just a little shatter on top. No (no cutting in half horizontally) sandwhich method?? Is that ok too?? Or should I do the sandwhich method?? Thanks for all the insight, and support on my Insomnia issues clouding!! P.S.S. Don't worry about taking over a thread haha. Its all good. :tup:We are all on the same team!!! God Bless!!!:peace:

I think herbivore21 know best when it comes to the strain, wait for him to answer...


And the pad: you can do as you seen, just put it on top of an intact pad...

But for very little work you will gain alot. It will be easier to clean your Mighty, and I think you will waste less AND get more out of the concentrate.

You just need a knife:)


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i sandwich sometimes and when using concentrates alone i put them on top of the pad
i wouldn't try this with only half a pad though
- or if i did i would be careful not to let it leak into the heating chamber
both methods worked great last night for the my morning jacket concert
taking the mighty to see phish this weekend
great week for the mighty!

i wouldnt go out with my mighty, especially not drinking and stuff... so sad to lose it one way or another, but its about control, great that you use it like that, mine is purely a sofa thing or bring to a friend. Yours got a much more interesting life;)
 
Clouding,
Yes, cut it horizontally, so that it has the same diameter as the concentrate pad originally had, but you are left with two thinner round concentrate pads, one to go on top of the heater screen in the Mighty and one to sandwich your concentrate on top :)
Why does shatter, oil, or hash work better in the vape for sleep than flower?? Isn't must of that stuff just pure THC? Should I still be looking for indica dom conentrates? or does it really matter. On some of the menu's it just says bubble hash, it is not strain specific. Thanks again!!! :peace:
 
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Why does shatter, oil, or hash work better in the vape for sleep than flower?? Isn't must of that stuff just pure THC? Should I still be looking for indica dom conentrates? or does it really matter. On some of the menu's it just says bubble hash, it is not strain specific. Thanks again!!! :peace:

It is important, you can buy oils which are stripped from THC and only contains CBN. Wait for Herbivore21 or look it up or ask at the dispenser, they should know... But I would dare be impulsive and order the bubble, if the price is rite:)
 

grokit

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Why does shatter, oil, or hash work better in the vape for sleep than flower?? Isn't must of that stuff just pure THC? Should I still be looking for indica dom conentrates? or does it really matter. On some of the menu's it just says bubble hash, it is not strain specific. Thanks again!!! :peace:
For myself indica or indica-dominant strains are the ones that help me get to sleep:zzz:
 
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For myself indica or indica-dominant strains are the ones that help me get to sleep:zzz:
yeah indeed, but concentrates can take you (even) further, getting the right stuff :)


Compassion was asking about it and its a special kinda magic and Herbi21 was also very pro concentrates when it comes to sleeping. I consider skunk crystals concentrate too...
 
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yeah indeed, but concentrates can take you further, getting the right stuff :)
I don't have access to them, but would tend towards agreement. I don't see how they wouldn't, as the actives per dose is so much higher. But I think one's tolerance might be taken into consideration here. For myself, I wouldn't want to get it so high that I couldn't appreciate the effects of flowers anymore.
 
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I don't have access to them, but would tend towards agreement. I don't see how they wouldn't, as the actives per dose is so much higher. But I think one's tolerance might be taken into consideration here. For myself, I wouldn't want to get it so high that I couldn't appreciate the effects of flowers anymore.

I dont think it affects my tolerance that badly, i tend to enjoy green more in day time and something stronger before bedtime... kinda like with weed wine tea and coffee, using the right thing at the right time...

As Herbi21 mentioned, removing crystals from skunk, thats a great concentrate and an opportunity for most vapers...

Also cleaning your vaporizers for that oily gunky stuff and thats free :)

I would mostly go for hash from Morocco cos its great comparing price and quality and accessibility...
 

grokit

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Right keif/crystals and wand reclaim/hash are my only concentrates lol.
 
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Right keif/crystals and wand reclaim/hash are my only concentrates lol.

You see, and i love the variation... but i have met many who say green only, some even say olskool weed/no crystal/all stem n crap/only!

I think about tolerance too, it is alpha omega, if its too high you wont feel shit ;)

Tolerance and enjoying is related! Ive seen a few guys almost immune towards thc, its was just something they had to have, constantly and in huge amounts heheh
 
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Right keif/crystals and wand reclaim/hash are my only concentrates lol.

it also comes down to price, i still got 0.4 gram budder / water isolated crystal hash, which i paid around 35 euro for... Most places you pay for that exclusivity, excluding every one else, i should frown on that, capitalistpigs:evil:

and its good, but not at that price:shrug:
 
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