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Discontinued Zion vaporizer

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
The lifetime warranty is some quality service...I'm somewhat cashed on expenses for new toys, but this.....certainly makes me want to shift some funds around.

Also need to research it more in general. The on demand hitting is awesome but if it's battery is anything like the Firefly I will ultimately be disappointed.

Love the look though and certainly am keeping an eye out :)

Battery nothing like the Firefly, much more efficient (and not proprietary!). Depending on your voltage dial you can get several bowls, I usually charge after 3 or 4, so they recharge quicker and not to drain, but have done 6 bowls too, depends how many hits perh bowl and temps of course, but at its lowest running batteries all the way down 5 bowls would be a minimum it seems...

Last night I hit Zion just 3 times in the car sober, full pack (my screen is still placed so there is like a cm or less of glass rim, I usually fill the screen i guess, but also fill full, how I did it my first beach weekend...) at just 40% with 10sec preheat and got very sizeable clouds and very stoned, heady energetic high corresponding to the low voltage/temp, just extracted a lot of pure thc at once really well. With the right herbs, pack, grind, preheat, draw, its just so rewarding I could compare it to a nice elevape puff too I think, quick and cloudy, heady and tasty.

Then at friends with his roommate (both daily combusters who also share an EQ, one has an Elevape for portable, other has Imag+ & Daisy and he began with a T1 a couple years or so ago like me, and they've both used all my vapes too) went really well, each got a hit using that aqua lab bent stem (got Zion screen wider with my pinky to go in there but after 3 hits it got loose with stirring so switched it up) and we each got a really nice hit at like 65% give or take, when sessioning less preheat required but basically the more preheat the stronger your hit, cloudier, heavier, cane make it quicker too (just don't hold button too long overall, 30sec max unless your at a low voltage perhaps).

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(ALT bent stem, with half finished short stem bowl, still wanna get its joint cut down to fit better, and hopefully get a Zion screen seated better, though EQ screen kinda works and is closer to heater, I don't like em as much with their metal rim overhang and finer mesh)

We then switched to my inline honeycomb (still my best bubbler, its just so smooth, more manageable than 187 and plenty capable of big milky hits) for a few bowls, finsihing the bent stem one and packing another, all at around 75% getting us each 2 or 3 hits off a bowl. Then we tried a kief sandwich, broke up a kief puck with herb on top and bottom, ridiculous... Even added some more kief on top at like hit 6, kept it going even more with milky hits with like 7sec preheat or so, still 75%, I held Zion and trigger on bubbler for them while spinning it during the 10-20sec hits, was quite effective to say the least and pretty crazy to say more.

So yeah Zion can vape most anything, it can hit hard it can hit light, with clouds to spare regardless. I keep comparing the signature to Triihouse vapes bc of the full bodied way it hits you (and the natural body ofcourse, feels so great to use), but honestly its also kinda reminding of combustion (even though it's been over a year since I've done that intentionally) just bc it really can hit so hard. I definitely get great strong hits out of Firefly, Elevape, and Underdog, but I gotta say I'm not sure they're this good... the level of extraction with this heater and stem system is just phenomenal imo, with less maintenance more airflow, with less stirring more materials purity, more full bodied and fun frankly

Oh and even though it's not super stealth perhaps, with the right pants Zion is totally pocketable for out and about, even with the short stem loaded upright (even more so with lid on and short stem stored, which you can do even with a full packed bowl) you can just barely make out the stem's profile next to the sweatpant pocket seem below:
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Is that a Zion in your pocket or...

Yeah versatile versatile versatile, full convection power at any temp, in a naturally wonderful portable body, on demand or sessioned with great battery life, its just such a full package I really can't get over it. Zion just becomes the daily driver so effortlessly
 
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RastaBuddhaTao

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Manufacturer
With the flawless performance of the Zion Beta fleet thus far the final units are ready for release. With this milestone passed we can add the finishing touches and begin production. A special thanks to the beta team for all the hard work in both past and future contributions. Now let's bring the Zion over the finish line. I have a feeling there might be a few fans waiting for us?

 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
Absolutely outstanding @RastaBuddhaTao. Congratulations and welcome to the last of the Beta testers. Those sure are pretty, and I know you are gonna love 'em.

I think it is now nearly time for this baby to make its way out of thread candidates into the general population. Can't wait to hear what the new guys say about their feature complete Zions!
 

HD Springer

Well-Known Member
Freaking fog fest up in RBT's pad. Just think if the three of those Zion beauty's were cloudin it up. Looks real nice.
 
HD Springer,

RastaBuddhaTao

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
Special thanks to all the beta testers for their patience with the pace of the Beta builds. I learned so much along the way and these last three girls really seemed to solidify the design. Roll up your sleeves boys, time to polish this thing off.

Price goes up to $199 and the Lifetime Warranty goes away in less than 24 hours... Don't miss this FC!

https://twitter.com/rastabuddhatao/status/625102595053457408
 
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pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
I think it is now nearly time for this baby to make its way out of thread candidates into the general population.

That can't happen until the Zion is shipping to customers. RBT has promised that will happen by October.

I'm thinking really hard right now about possibly canceling my grasshopper preorder to get on board with a Zion. All these great new vapes are making the decisions so hard!

Those are two really different devices. The GH (which I haven't tried) is a stealthy quick-hit design, while the Zion is not stealthy at all but is far more versatile than the GH could ever be. If the decision is one or the other, then you should consider how you intend to use the device.
 

Fission

Well-Known Member
Okay, I just want to make sure that I've got this right, so the vape on its own is 169$ (for the moment). This doesn't include the batteries or the charger. Those are separate. So if I were to order a "standard kit," say, 2 batteries and the charger with the Zion, then it would be 209$. I'm really close to switching. I think it's just the months I spent waiting and fantasizing over the GH that are holding me back.
 

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
Okay, I just want to make sure that I've got this right, so the vape on its own is 169$ (for the moment). This doesn't include the batteries or the charger. Those are separate. So if I were to order a "standard kit," say, 2 batteries and the charger with the Zion, then it would be 209$. I'm really close to switching. I think it's just the months I spent waiting and fantasizing over the GH that are holding me back.

Count on four batteries. You won't want to wait while your batteries charge if it becomes your go-to device. It's had a strong tendency to do that so far.
 

Fission

Well-Known Member
Count on four batteries. You won't want to wait while your batteries charge if it becomes your go-to device. It's had a strong tendency to do that so far.
How many bowls would you say you can get through with one set of batteries? I normally do two and sometimes start a third in my flowermate, so it's not a huge amount. I certainly wouldn't want batteries to die on me, but if my extra batteries would likely just sit around, I'd rather save the money.

EDIT: Okay, I took the leap. I have now ordered the Zion with 4 batteries, the charger, and the long stem.
 
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little maggie

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I ordered the Zion a while ago and bought a charger. The long stem is new to me- I must have missed it. Has anyone here tried it? Cooler works better for me. A gong would be nice too.

Also, shit snacks, where did you get the bent stem and a gong that fits the Zion?
 
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little maggie,

Fission

Well-Known Member
If you don't love it, I will buy it back from you and pay the shipping too.

your pal,
thekarmawhore
I love seeing the confidence you guys have in the product. For anyone in the thread wondering if this is a purchase worth making, it might help you to know that RBT messaged me very soon after I ordered, just to welcome me and to let me know a couple things (I.e. all the beta units have worked perfectly thus far, and he is expecting to ship earlier than the October date). You guys are treating your customers well, and it has only made me that much more certain that buying the Zion was the right decision!
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
I ordered the Zion a while ago and bought a charger. The long stem is new to me- I must have missed it. Has anyone here tried it? Cooler works better for me. A gong would be nice too.

Also, shit snacks, where did you get the bent stem and a gong that fits the Zion?

I think I mentioned to you the links several pages back? The bent stem isn't great though unless you can cut it down. EBay is a solid resource, I posted links to several adapters and most dhgate bubblers come with them as well. Any 18mm should fit Zion fine for the most part. Unsure if long stem is included or not, I use short stem most and just an 18mm male to male adapter that came with my honeycomb inline from kathy
 
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cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
I ordered the Zion a while ago and bought a charger. The long stem is new to me- I must have missed it. Has anyone here tried it? Cooler works better for me. A gong would be nice too.

Also, shit snacks, where did you get the bent stem and a gong that fits the Zion?
I think the Zion is coming with just the shorter stem that fits under the cap. RBT is selling the longer stem as an option for like $7, which is a good price.
I also use the bent stem that came with my FC-UFO and I like it as the bend helps the glass absorb some heat. If you order a stem from elsewhere make sure you are getting the US standard 18mm joint, as the ISO standard is a little long (4mm). @Oregonglassblower is aware of this now so if you tell him it is for the Zion he will already know you need the US joint. Couldn't hurt to remind him tho just to CYA.

I use the M2M that came with my china glass and put the arizer ELB screen in it and it works great fror using with a water piece. The Chinese glass tends to use the US joint standard. There are probably exceptions.

I recommend that folks (if you are getting it from RBT) get the D2 charger rather than the I2. It is $10 more, but gives you a digital readout instead of just lights so you get a better picture of your battery condition. The cheaper charger charges just fine, however.
 

little maggie

Well-Known Member
Thanks. I'm confused though. I have lots of adapters from various glass I've ordered and some of Joda's glassware. Most 18MM. But doesn't one side need to fit the Zion?
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Thanks. I'm confused though. I have lots of adapters from various glass I've ordered and some of Joda's glassware. Most 18MM. But doesn't one side need to fit the Zion?

Zion is 18mm. Any will fit, just how well exactly will vary. Zion screens can also fit most any, but some exceptions, like the ALT bent stem I have for example can be used with EQ screen or a stretched Zion screen but not great bc its a little long. Zion screens are definitely my favorite way to use it, and just the short stem is great on its own either way
 
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