The Arizer Air
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vapen00b
Many vapes & accessories. Always happy to help
@OF
@Pipes
@Episode666
@OyVape
Thanks for all your answers!! And sorry, if any questions have been mentioned already... I do read everything in this thread - so it's been some time i guess, plus especially about the micro bubbler I wanted to know about your techniques.
Can only stress once again, it's such a great place over here - great people, great community and I'm so happy I found this place and can be a part of it. Cheers!
BTT, I will google a bit now for that magic stuff and where to order it from.
Thanks again!
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Yep. It says "excellent tolerance for hard water"
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Ordered!
@Pipes
@Episode666
@OyVape
Thanks for all your answers!! And sorry, if any questions have been mentioned already... I do read everything in this thread - so it's been some time i guess, plus especially about the micro bubbler I wanted to know about your techniques.
Can only stress once again, it's such a great place over here - great people, great community and I'm so happy I found this place and can be a part of it. Cheers!
BTT, I will google a bit now for that magic stuff and where to order it from.
Thanks again!
Edit:
Yep. It says "excellent tolerance for hard water"
Edit edit:
Ordered!
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2clicker
Observer
w/out derailing too far... the PBW is the ONLY way to clean glass IMO. this is what brewers use to clean their brewing vessels. and when brewing, even the smallest amount of foreign matter can infect a brew and ruin it. PBW gets glass surgically clean. @OF is right about the hot water.
i scoop some PBW into my piece. while the water is heating up. then i put a rubber stopper in the d-stem and fill the piece up with steaming hot water until about 2/3 full. then i put a rubber stopper in the mouthpiece of the glass. then, with gloves on, i shake the shit out of it. its amazing how well this shit works. usually that is all that is needed, but sometimes there are some spots that are really on there. i just dump and repeat and my glass shines like diamonds. i can clean a damn filthy piece to brand new in about 10 mins. it is really that good.
oh and the best part? its totally safe for the environment so no worries there!
i scoop some PBW into my piece. while the water is heating up. then i put a rubber stopper in the d-stem and fill the piece up with steaming hot water until about 2/3 full. then i put a rubber stopper in the mouthpiece of the glass. then, with gloves on, i shake the shit out of it. its amazing how well this shit works. usually that is all that is needed, but sometimes there are some spots that are really on there. i just dump and repeat and my glass shines like diamonds. i can clean a damn filthy piece to brand new in about 10 mins. it is really that good.
oh and the best part? its totally safe for the environment so no worries there!
DopeFight
Well-Known Member
Well after a couple of months on debating between the Air or the Solo (with the Pax 2) I finally decided to go with the Air. I ordered it Friday and had it Monday evening!!! It's been getting heavy use and I'm finding I really love this thing!! My first Vape, the NO2 died after heavy years of good use and my Indica oven decided to die a while back like a lot of other good folks. So all I have had is my Pax for the past couple of months and its been working overtime. I've noticed I get way more lifted out of one to two loads on the Air compared to two full loads of the Pax which takes a lot more product. The taste quality on the Air is pretty damn good in my opinion. Still having to get use to everything and learn how to make it work best but so far I'm rather happy with my purchase!!!
Mine takes about 2.5 hours to charge in the unit (I have only done that twice, just use nitecore D2 now) and I generally get 5 sessions, granted many are now back to back at night with my house to myself.
I really enjoy this vape, just as much as I did my Solo. It's nice to be able to pocket it somewhat. I'm keeping my glass super clean this time, tastes way better and gives more vapor for sure.
Anyone else store their stir tool in the silicon sleeve so they don't misplace it? That's a very helpful tool.
I really enjoy this vape, just as much as I did my Solo. It's nice to be able to pocket it somewhat. I'm keeping my glass super clean this time, tastes way better and gives more vapor for sure.
Anyone else store their stir tool in the silicon sleeve so they don't misplace it? That's a very helpful tool.
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bluenavey00
Arizer Air Aficionado
Are there any reports of newer a version of the Air with slight changes? I know the battery indicator was added shortly after launch. Wonder if there any updates in the pipeline as there was with the Solo.
KidFated.
Unknown Member
Depends what you mean by better.
GetLeft
Well-Known Member
I've never had a Solo but it's been reported here that, with the exception of the rechargeable battery of the AA and the difference in sizes, the Solo and AA designs are pretty much identical.
KidFated.
Unknown Member
And o-ring/gasket set up. What I meant is for whatever purpose you are using it for. Stealth for air, solo for everything else.
Superhans
Active Member
I'm pretty happy with my cleaning routine although the very bottom of the stem which is closest to contact with the heating element is charred black and seems impossible to clean. Is this stuff actually resin or just the glass getting charred (if thats possible)? Will PBW get it out?
I have to agree, the hardest part to get clean. What I do sometimes is use a wooden qtip and break in half. Use the wood end dipping in ISO and scrapping away at the stained part. A slow process but gets it off without scratching the glass. Trick is to use something hard but not metal to avoid physically scratching the glass, creating weak spots.
al bundy
Vaporist
I've used Mr clean magic eraser for the stained tips Works well.
mikek9
Vapor Enthusiast
Got an Arizer Air a few months back, have only used it maybe 20 times since then. I have an Herbal Aire Elite, Herbal Aire H2.2 and a Volcano Medic. So I have 3 desktops to choose from which are effortless vaporizers.
I have yet to find the efficiency with the Air as I get with my plug ins. I think a lot of it comes down to the consistency of the grind. The manual says to grind it coarsely, but I have yet to find the right consistency. I have tried everything from coarse to fine and the biggest issue seems to be with airflow. does anyone get issues when they push the stem all the way in it restricts the airflow, but when they pull it back slightly it seems fine again? I just wondered if this was normal for others.
How fine do you guys grind your material and do you push the stems all the way in?
I have yet to find the efficiency with the Air as I get with my plug ins. I think a lot of it comes down to the consistency of the grind. The manual says to grind it coarsely, but I have yet to find the right consistency. I have tried everything from coarse to fine and the biggest issue seems to be with airflow. does anyone get issues when they push the stem all the way in it restricts the airflow, but when they pull it back slightly it seems fine again? I just wondered if this was normal for others.
How fine do you guys grind your material and do you push the stems all the way in?
OF
Well-Known Member
Yes, we all do. Except those using PVHES or Ed's with notches on the rim. It's normal for the flat end of the stem to seal against the flat bottom of the oven. It happens on Solo too, of course. Some lift it a bit, but I think most simply tip the stem a bit? This is discussed here some but a LOT on the earlier Solo postings. It's common and normal. Nothing wrong with your Air.
Grinding is not needed, you can do a fair job with intact budlets. Too fine a grind can lead to debris making it through, some use fine screens to limit this.
The key here is, I think, Air (and other portables) are very power limited compared to desktops. You have to be frugal with the heat they provide, make vapor at the rate they're 'comfortable with' rather than pushing it which is going to give less vapor, counter intuitive as that is. Sipping works better than sucking harder?
With patients I can easily vape bud in either Solo or Air to the point my HA 2.2 can't get any more out. Have you tried that?
OF
mikek9
Vapor Enthusiast
Thanks for the response. I definitely have been pulling back ever so slightly on the stem to allow for more airflow and it seems to work much better - I just figured this was a design issue.
About putting my spent material in the herbal aire after to see if it can extract anymore, I personally haven't done that. The herb comes out quite cooked so I figured I wouldn't bother - also, you can see it gets a little blackened at the part that touches the bottom of the chamber so I didn't think there would be much left.
The herb does come out quite well cooked with some patience though as you said, but I guess its the patience I am lacking. I just like the power of my desktops as they can power through anything and always get me well medicated in a timely manner.
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
yes like of said the problem existed with the solo, the fix was that the rims of the stems for the solo werent perfectly flat and one end was raised a little more so when you pressed the stem all the way down it didnt make a perfect seal, the new stems for the air and i guess the newer solo stems are almost perfectly flat along the rim. youll see posts about rocking the stem to manipulate airflow (mostly in the solo thread), this is why. feel free to pull back a mm or so, thats probably what the problem is. i can get a session done a lot faster too if i use my glass with my solo, bigger water conditioned hits vs many smaller dry ones. heres my preferred grind size
mikek9
Vapor Enthusiast
yes like of said the problem existed with the solo, the fix was that the rims of the stems for the solo werent perfectly flat and one end was raised a little more so when you pressed the stem all the way down it didnt make a perfect seal, the new stems for the air and i guess the newer solo stems are almost perfectly flat along the rim. youll see posts about rocking the stem to manipulate airflow (mostly in the solo thread), this is why. feel free to pull back a mm or so, thats probably what the problem is. i can get a session done a lot faster too if i use my glass with my solo, bigger water conditioned hits vs many smaller dry ones. heres my preferred grind size
thanks for the response and the helpful picture. that is a little finer than I have been grinding my material - I have just been chopping it with scissors.
What worked for me when I first got my air and used to the stock stem was to add an enano basket screen to the bottom of the heating chamber.
The nano basket screen is smaller in diameter, so I flattened it and fanned out the edges creating a great fix! I didn't mean for this when I initially did it but since I couldnt make the basket screen completely flat it stopped the air stems from going all the way to the bottom of the chamber and blocking the air path.
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
I primarily use a Santa Cruz Shredder, the 2" 2 piece one, and used it for above. If you don't have a grinder, you can chop with scissors and get it close-ish, vape that, and maybe a few hits in you can poke it back out and crumble it with your fingers to get it finer and keep vaping that. The cool thing though about the Solo/Air is that I can also just tear a piece off a nug, stick it in, and vape that too. It'll take a bit longer to get it vaped thoroughly but it is definitely possible as long as airflow isn't impeded too much. I also have a small coffee grinder that I use to grind up material for another vaporizer and if I get it down really really fine (sand-like or finer), once I pack it into the stem and take a hit it all glues itself together and turns into a puck and pretty much plugs the airflow up, so there is such thing as too fine of a grind. You didn't get an acrylic orange grinder with your Volcano? Assuming you got it new, all of their products come with a grinder.
mikek9
Vapor Enthusiast
Yeah I did get the grinder with my Volcano Medic and tried using that but it really grinds too finely creating the issues you described.