Herb Grinders

Lycanthrope

King Of The Loons
OH, Im so confused. :o No not really. I think that I'll try my electric coffee grinder before ordering anything else. I think that I should be able to grind to a
pencil eraser dust
as recommended by Tuttle. The coffee grinder should do that just fine and very quickly. If there is any degree of residual kief left in the grinder I should be able to reclaim it with a small brush.

I know what the general impression of the low cost wood grinders are. To me, a nice looking wood grinder would compliment my MZ wood so nicely. It would appear that the two were made for each other. I would still use the coffee grinder for the workhorse grinding and use the wooden one on occasion just to show it off when I have company. It would just look so nice setting next to the MZ. I also have a beautiful rosewood heart shaped stash box with a wolfs head hand carved on the top cover. The three of them setting together would make a good looking trio.

Thanks everyone for the good advise. :D
 
Lycanthrope,

Gatsby T Pig

Well-Known Member
Cappella Sistina said:
You sure its not kief?
I am guessing that you are asking about my post. I am sure it is not kief because I have been dry grinding. I haven't used any herb yet.

Is that small amount of grey dust okay? It is on the outside, between the two housings.

Just checking.
 
Gatsby T Pig,

Lycanthrope

King Of The Loons
Lo, I went to Ed's site and WOW!! :o Everything he makes is better than better. I know now where I'm getting my show off wood grinder. Ill get the 3-inch. WOW!!.:o

Thanks for that lead Lo. I see that he also sells a wax that would work on the MZ's, PD's & WE'S. This is a great site for wood accessories.
 
Lycanthrope,

max

Out to lunch
DeepFried said:
Actually I disagree with most of what you said. First I am talking about 2 pc. grinders only, so who cares about the hole size because there are not any to be concerned about. I think we can all agree that for a fine grind your best bet is a 2 pc. I'd like to see all of the quality grinders for 1/2 the price of the medium 2 pc. Cosmic at 19.99, where are these high quality 9.99 grinders?

The Cosmic does provide a superior fine grind IMO because of one important feature that it has that most don't including Space Case, Mendo, Chromium Crusher and MnB.. All these others have their teeth arranged in a perfectly circular pattern with each tooth oriented in the same repeating pattern, where the Cosmic has each and every tooth in a different specific rotation and location, this design allows it a superior grind because your herb is being cut at many different angles with every twist. Look closely at all your grinders teeth arrangement and you'll see what I am talking about.
I didn't realize you were talking about a 2 pc. My comment does apply to the 4 pc., where the holes are huge. As for the $10 quality grinder ($15 delivered) - http://merchantswholesale.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=3768801 Since it can be converted to a 3 pc. (2 pc. with storage), I think it's an excellent buy whether you want a 2 pc. or 4 pc. I'm very satisfied with mine.

lwien said:
SharpCrusher?
Next, we're going to present to you a CosmicMendo and a Mix-n'Space
Bastard offspring of a Sharpstone and Chromium Crusher I guess. :rolleyes: But half breeds are both hardier and cheaper than purebreds. ;) It does have the name on the top, so as far as I'm concerned it's as much of a brand name as CC or Sharpstone.
 
max,

jeffp

psychonaut/retired
Lycanthrope said:
Lo, I went to Ed's site and WOW!! :o Everything he makes is better than better. I know now where I'm getting my show off wood grinder. Ill get the 3-inch. WOW!!.:o

Thanks for that lead Lo. I see that he also sells a wax that would work on the MZ's, PD's & WE'S. This is a great site for wood accessories.
yeah his wood grinders are great, BUT... remember its wood so there's slight imperfections when you turn it. you might find it jams up just a bit. the easy solution to that is
apply a tiny bit of buzz butter around the rim to smooth it out.

i've not seen grinders that look as beautiful as these wood grinders and i can dial in whatever fineness of grind i like, and my vaping is more intense because i get all the kief rather than lose it for future reference.
 
jeffp,

max

Out to lunch
my vaping is more intense because i get all the kief rather than lose it for future reference.
Since I usually screen, my vaping can be even more intense since I can add however much kief I want to the bowl. Last night I ground some sticky bud with a 2 pc., then topped it off with some additional kief. I don't look at it as losing kief by screening it. I just like the options it provides.
 
max,

lwien

Well-Known Member
To each their own, I guess, max. I used a 4pc for almost a year but now I find I like using the 2pc better because not only is it a bit easier to use to get a fine grind, but, for me, I want as much kief as I can get in my bud all the time.
 
lwien,

Konrad_Zuse

New Member
lwien said:
To each their own, I guess, max. I used a 4pc for almost a year but now I find I like using the 2pc better because not only is it a bit easier to use to get a fine grind, but, for me, I want as much kief as I can get in my bud all the time.
Deff man. Oriignally I thought 2pces sucked, because there is no kief catcher, but then I found that the 4pc love to clog and shit, and the kief catcher is w/e. I wanted to get a kief box from Exotic Zombie, but after waiting 2 months to actually get in contact with them, after switching emails and such, I decided now isn't the time, but I do think they are useful.
 
Konrad_Zuse,

Lycanthrope

King Of The Loons
Thanks Jeffp, I'm going to get one of those awsome wood grinders. The pics on the website probably doesn't do them aesthetic justice. In addition to your butter recommendation which is a good one, I'll try light sanding of the rotating surfaces that are in direct contact with each other using a 250 grit paper. That should remove any roughness and slight imperfections and leave a much smoother surface. Then apply the butter on those surfaces; that should result in a smoother drag free rotation during grinding. That may be something that you can try and see if it works. I won't have my MZ or the wood grinder in my hands for about two weeks.

Iv'e been told that I should grind my herb to about the size of the particles left behind from a rubber eraser. Again, this is with respect to my MZ. How does your wood grinder perform in achieving a grind of that size?

I also have a small electric coffee grinder that I can use, but the wood is so much nicer, especially along side the wood MZ and my hand carved stash box. Grinding with an electric just seems kind of clinical, industrial. The hand grinding with the quality wood is more of a personal spiritual thing, at least for me.
 
Lycanthrope,

momofthegoons

vapor accessory addict
max said:
my vaping is more intense because i get all the kief rather than lose it for future reference.
Since I usually screen, my vaping can be even more intense since I can add however much kief I want to the bowl. Last night I ground some sticky bud with a 2 pc., then topped it off with some additional kief. I don't look at it as losing kief by screening it. I just like the options it provides.
I use a 4 piece and enjoy the diversity of buzz I can get from adding kief. In the morning, I like a lighter buzz. By evening, I usually need a little more punch to what I'm vaping and some kief added to the tip of a stem, or if I really want to get blasted or go to sleep, sandwiched between some herb in my whip style vape, will definitely do the trick.

Lycanthrope, IMO you might get too fine of a grind in a coffee grinder for the MZ stem. Try drying your herb sightly and then putting it through your new wood grinder. It should be the consistency of coarse ground pepper.
 
momofthegoons,

jeffp

psychonaut/retired
I'm a simple man with simple wants - I just want to get as fucked up as possible all the time when I vape.
If I do want to dial it down I'll take less hits, and versa visa.
I get what you guys are saying and historically I've gone from two different 4 piece grinders including the CC, to the mortar and pestle thing, back to the 4 pieces, and now Ed's two piece.
So for the moment I'm really enjoying it and it works well.

Lycantrhope, I am no where close to being an authority or an expert on these things, but yes, you can, with a 2 piece, grind the shit out your herb as much as you want - the more you turn it, the finer the grind - absolutely. Remember you'll get a better grind in general if you let your bud dry out for a while before putting it in the grinder, and your vaping will yield better results.....very important.

edit - as to what level of fineness, you don't want it too fine - that could block airflow. you'll play around with it and most of the time it will be fine. It's not an exact science.
Some guys who use whip vapes don't even like to use grinders at all - they snip at the bud with manicuring scissors in the wand as they go along.
Again, just play around with it and don't take it all that seriously.
 
jeffp,

Lycanthrope

King Of The Loons
Mom & Jeffp, Thanks for the advise and comments. I'm actualy glad that Mom said what she said about the coffee grinder and Jeffp said about the 2-piece. The wood grinder that I'll get is a two piece from Ed and should do what I need it to with no fuss. Besides like I said, I really like the wood aspect of it VS a metal or electric. Wood is warm and natural unlike metal or electric. That's just my style. Different strokes for different folks. Its all what turns your crank.
 
Lycanthrope,

DeepFried

A Legend in my Own Mind
max said:
DeepFried said:
Actually I disagree with most of what you said. First I am talking about 2 pc. grinders only, so who cares about the hole size because there are not any to be concerned about. I think we can all agree that for a fine grind your best bet is a 2 pc. I'd like to see all of the quality grinders for 1/2 the price of the medium 2 pc. Cosmic at 19.99, where are these high quality 9.99 grinders?

The Cosmic does provide a superior fine grind IMO because of one important feature that it has that most don't including Space Case, Mendo, Chromium Crusher and MnB.. All these others have their teeth arranged in a perfectly circular pattern with each tooth oriented in the same repeating pattern, where the Cosmic has each and every tooth in a different specific rotation and location, this design allows it a superior grind because your herb is being cut at many different angles with every twist. Look closely at all your grinders teeth arrangement and you'll see what I am talking about.
I didn't realize you were talking about a 2 pc. My comment does apply to the 4 pc., where the holes are huge. As for the $10 quality grinder ($15 delivered) - http://merchantswholesale.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=3768801 Since it can be converted to a 3 pc. (2 pc. with storage), I think it's an excellent buy whether you want a 2 pc. or 4 pc. I'm very satisfied with mine.
Not to exchange staples with you Max, but to be fair you said a "high quality" grinder for 1/2 the price of the Cosmic. The grinder you linked is 10.00 but questionable about high quality, read 2 of the latest 4 user comments:

"Speedy shipping...but it's falling apart. My magnet fell off already:("

"i screwed the pieces together, now they will not come apart, worthless."

Although there are also good comments, they are mostly about fast shipping.
 
DeepFried,

baurman

Well-Known Member
There's so many different grinders to choose from. I was using a crappy Made in China Grinder I got for cheap but it's missing. Now I am reading up about Grinders and there are certain types of Grinders that shed metal pieces, etc. I want to stay away from all that or anything unhealthy. Can someone point me in the direction to check out some best bang for the buck 4pc Kief Herb Grinders for around $40-60?
 
baurman,
Lo said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/5-piece-63mm-Po...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45ef6e3dc0

Comes with a pollen press too. This seller was recommended way back in this thread and I have said grinder. 5 piece but I removed a piece to make it 4. Works fine for me.
Yep, I have a 4 piece from this seller, and it works perfect for me. I get a lot of high quality kief outta this thing, and it grinds to a pretty nice consistency. I would recommend this seller to anyone looking for a good grinder. I don't use the little kief press that came with it, but it's nice to have if I decide to use it. Looks to be the same quality as the grinder.
 
SkeletonLips,

momofthegoons

vapor accessory addict
Actually, if you don't want this exact "package" the seller also offers many different types of grinders in their ebay store. I've also purchased from this store and have used my 4 piece for two years with no complaint.
 
momofthegoons,

max

Out to lunch
Can someone point me in the direction to check out some best bang for the buck 4pc Kief Herb Grinders for around $40-60?
The above mentioned KGP on eBay has all CNC grinders in this price range (I was the one who first mentioned his eBay store here). I have the 63mm 4 pc. It'll run you $44.50 delivered. It's no better than my $15 delivered Sharp Crusher of the same size. You can also get a 57mm $45 Mendo Mulcher. It's a well respected brand. I've got the 76mm size Mendo. It's also no better than my $15 Sharp Crusher. Got a medium 4 pc. Space Case as well. Best finish on the market, but also doesn't grind any better than my Sharp Crusher. Aero Space and Chromium Crusher (CNC aluminum model) are also inexpensive brands that perform and hold up as well as any. Spend $40-60 if you like, but in my experience it's not necessary.
 
max,

isis

Well-Known Member
I ordered a 4 piece fully CNC grinder from Kelly's Great Products a few weeks ago. It's a 2.5". At first I was excited because it seemed really nice for the price. Shipped fast, the seller is really great. But I don't like the grinder anymore. When I received it, it was pretty oily too. The teeth are dull now. There isn't much difference between this and my shitty old $6 3-piece, other than the screen. I know it was a low price, and it still gives me good kief, but the action is subpar. There are more nicks in the threads than I would like. Worst of all: the other day I found a tiny metal shard in my launch box trench. That was the last straw for me.

So I am going to do what I should have done in the first place, and buy a large, titanium 2 piece Space Case. My best friends got a 4 piece zinc/steel Chromium Crusher with their recent DBV purchase; this is a nice grinder. It still works just as well as the first time they used it, looks great, herb doesn't stick to it and I actually really like the nice weight of the zinc/steel. However, I can't get a really fine grind out of it, even turned upside down. The grind is fine for da Buddha but not for the LB-- I have both. I'm getting the large 2 piece SC because while I like sifting kief, I am sick of unscrewing and turning the top half of my grinder upside down to get the fine grind I want. And the large size should be more comfortable to twist in my hands. Eventually I want an Exotic Zombie to collect that kief, but that will probably not happen for a while, so I suppose until then I'll just vape my kief with my bud.
 
isis,

panasonic

Well-Known Member
Believe it or not, the Mix n Ball grinder came. I don't have a camera but I'll post pictures later. I'm not super impressed for the money, the coating has several scratches and blemishes, there's no magnets, and the screen appears to be held in place with adhesive. Ah well. at least it came.
 
panasonic,

stinkmeaner

Well-Known Member
panasonic said:
Believe it or not, the Mix n Ball grinder came. I don't have a camera but I'll post pictures later. I'm not super impressed for the money, the coating has several scratches and blemishes, there's no magnets, and the screen appears to be held in place with adhesive. Ah well. at least it came.
Screen held together by adhesive, you have to be kidding me, I would return it if I were you. Scratches are also unacceptable on a new item. That is a disappointment, I watched a couple YouTube videos with the Triple screen, Mix N Ball models with the multiple micron sizes for the collection of different grade pollens.
 
stinkmeaner,

heartvapor

Well-Known Member
Can anyone recommend a grinder that will grind extremely fine? I need it finely ground for use in the Magic-Flight Launch Box. I got a 4-piece aluminum CNC grinder free with my Launch Box, but it only grinds my bud to tiny pieces, but they're still pieces. I want almost powder.

From everything I've heard, 2-piece grinders will always get a finer grind. I don't want to spend more than about $25-$30

I found this: http://www.mixnball.com/shop/herb-grinders/classics/magnetic-metal-herb-grinder.html

Mix'n'Ball 2.2" 2-piece grinder for $16.50 + $5.25 shipping, so about $22 total.

Anyone have this grinder? Will it grind it extremely finely? Or are there other grinders that will grind more finely

thanks
 
heartvapor,

chucku

Charles Urbane
heartvapor said:
Can anyone recommend a grinder that will grind extremely fine? I need it finely ground for use in the Magic-Flight Launch Box. I got a 4-piece aluminum CNC grinder free with my Launch Box, but it only grinds my bud to tiny pieces, but they're still pieces. I want almost powder.

From everything I've heard, 2-piece grinders will always get a finer grind. I don't want to spend more than about $25-$30

I found this: http://www.mixnball.com/shop/herb-grinders/classics/magnetic-metal-herb-grinder.html

Mix'n'Ball 2.2" 2-piece grinder for $16.50 + $5.25 shipping, so about $22 total.

Anyone have this grinder? Will it grind it extremely finely? Or are there other grinders that will grind more finely

thanks
Until MNB proves worthy of your business, this means acceptable customer service and shipping times, do not buy their product directly from them on line. Buy their product if and only if it is in stock from a reputable on line reseller or a brick and mortar shop. Otherwise you are very likely to be disappointed and considering all that has been said here you will have only yourself to blame. Be smart, there are plenty of other alternatives.
 
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