Trying to switch to vaping...

Pjake

Pjake

It's all in the reflexes.
CarolKing said:
You will know if you are over the combusting hump when you take a drag from a joint and it is revolting to you. You may decide you don't like it any longer.
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I feel this 100% about canabis. Smoking it tastes gross now. However, I am 5 years into quitting smoking cigarettes after 20 years plus and I still love and crave cigarettes. Point being, if your going to occasionally combust, I highly recommend you leave the tobacco out. Going from combustion to vaporizing is fun compared to permanently giving up nicotine.
 
Stu

Stu

Maconheiro
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Pjake said:
I feel this 100% about canabis. Smoking it tastes gross now. However, I am 5 years into quitting smoking cigarettes after 20 years plus and I still love and crave cigarettes. Point being, if your going to occasionally combust, I highly recommend you leave the tobacco out. Going from combustion to vaporizing is fun compared to permanently giving up nicotine.
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I can confirm this. As someone who almost always vaporizes weed, I find the taste of a joint to be disgusting. But I still smoke cigarettes (I'm not proud, just being honest) and have found the transition off of smoking tobacco to be brutal (I've tried many, many times), while it was a breeze for me with cannabis.

:peace:
 
arf777

arf777

No longer dogless
FYI- for the folks on here having trouble quitting cigarettes, I went cold turkey using the method in Alan Carr's The Easy Way to Stop Smoking over a year ago, after almost 40 years smoking (20 years of that at 2+ packs a day). Have had maybe three cravings in the entire year. I have quit before with patches, Wellbutrin, e-cigs, and gum, and went back in a couple of months every time.
 
Stu

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
arf777 said:
Alan Carr's The Easy Way to Stop Smoking
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Funny you should mention that. I actually bought that book about a year ago. My boss saw it arrive in the mail, and asked if he could let his wife read it first as she's been trying to stop for ages, too.

Since she didn't have any luck with the book, I didn't bother to read it. I'll ask for it back from her and give it a try. Thanks for the tip. ;)

:peace:
 
arf777

arf777

No longer dogless
Like a lot of methods, part of the key is you have to be ready to quit, and really want to quit. I'd hit a point where the cigs were actively interfering with my breathing, constantly (40 year smoker, started when i was 5 - Russian). Also, I started smoking meats much more when I quit, and when a craving got bad I'd fire up the smoker. That way I'd get to play with fire, get the taste of smoke, cough a little, but have food as a result at the end. Don't think I could've quit without the smoker.

The amount of extra money I've had is startling. As is the improvement in the size of vape hit I can take.
 
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WeedyGirl1979

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I've been combustion free for a little over a year at this point. I don't ever want to smoke again at this point, but I looked around and I still have/had all my old smoking utensils, from my first bowl (almost got myself kicked out of a head shop asking "where are your bowls at!") to the nasty acrylic bong that I'd use because you can't break acrylic by dropping. Just last week, I finally started throwing out things, because I'm a recovering hoarder (not really, ew). I plan to keep my gorgeous big purple bong, but almost every other thing is getting rehomed or out of here.
 
Bravesst

Bravesst

Full Steam Ahead
Manufacturer
It's been about six months or more since I've lit up, but I've been more stoned than I've ever been in my life. I actually thought I couldn't really get "high", just "even" (hence the quote in my sig), and that was good enough. It kept all my anxiety demons at bay without me being a stoner. I was a NYC fireman for 22 years, and smoking pot meant getting fired, so all was on the down low - a stoner image is not what I was going for.

Not sure how I began vaping, but not because of any lung issue. Miraculously, even after surving 911, and 22 years of smokey tenements, my lungs are crystal. I'm a strength / conditioning coach, and in pretty good shape as well. I think it was more curiosity and trying to save material that led me to my first PAX (which was OK, but a PITA).

Then I got a Crafty, then Mighty, then a couple of AA's, and glass on the way, blah, blah, blah. Vaping is awesome, even with the learning curve. It conserves in many ways (material, time), but there is one single disadvantage that I'm sure I'll overcome, but after 40 years of being able to watch my joints burn down, and keep exact track of "where I am", I got good at it. I could control my "pace" so to speak.

That's what I'm learning now. Vapes are more invisible, that is, you don't know for sure how each bowl is going to go, how much is left. For me, that makes me sometimes rip through a bowl. I need to pack smaller, but sometimes the taste, process is compromised by too small a load (my learning curve I guess).

I need to get a "feel" of vaping... of where I am head-wise, material-wise. It just seemed to be easier to do when I was smoking, and I have zero intention of ever smoking again. I guess when my technique gets better, I'll better be able to predict what each pack will do, long it will last, without having to see it.

Just some ramblings of a relatively new vapist, hope you all don't mind.
 
C No Ego

C No Ego

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Bravesst said:
It's been about six months or more since I've lit up, but I've been more stoned than I've ever been in my life. I actually thought I couldn't really get "high", just "even" (hence the quote in my sig), and that was good enough. It kept all my anxiety demons at bay without me being a stoner. I was a NYC fireman for 22 years, and smoking pot meant getting fired, so all was on the down low - a stoner image is not what I was going for.

Not sure how I began vaping, but not because of any lung issue. Miraculously, even after surving 911, and 22 years of smokey tenements, my lungs are crystal. I'm a strength / conditioning coach, and in pretty good shape as well. I think it was more curiosity and trying to save material that led me to my first PAX (which was OK, but a PITA).

Then I got a Crafty, then Mighty, then a couple of AA's, and glass on the way, blah, blah, blah. Vaping is awesome, even with the learning curve. It conserves in many ways (material, time), but there is one single disadvantage that I'm sure I'll overcome, but after 40 years of being able to watch my joints burn down, and keep exact track of "where I am", I got good at it. I could control my "pace" so to speak.

That's what I'm learning now. Vapes are more invisible, that is, you don't know for sure how each bowl is going to go, how much is left. For me, that makes me sometimes rip through a bowl. I need to pack smaller, but sometimes the taste, process is compromised by too small a load (my learning curve I guess).

I need to get a "feel" of vaping... of where I am head-wise, material-wise. It just seemed to be easier to do when I was smoking, and I have zero intention of ever smoking again. I guess when my technique gets better, I'll better be able to predict what each pack will do, long it will last, without having to see it.

Just some ramblings of a relatively new vapist, hope you all don't mind.
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seems you may also add t o your dilemma the fact that you do not always see vapor unlike smoke and the "" invisible"" vapor still has medicinal effects. I've been vaping for years now and still smoke a J every now and then more for gatherings with other people.... but lately I have noticed more how the effects come on with vaping and like you mentioned they are not that easy to gauge every time. usually by the time I think it will not be to good of an effect it kicks in more surprising me. vapor seems to have a delayed reaction time depending on where you are at consciously, mentally, foodwise, so many aspects to alter the known effects and then there is of course the differing strains imparting the differing effects as well. just thinking about joints burning into the air gets my " no waste" ocd going and reminds me why I am so grateful for having learned to vaporize instead.

another thing too, even with the same vaporizer and same strain of herb vaped regularly sometimes the vape works differently adding more to the experience like the heater heats up better for one session than another etc...and that leads to different than usual effects
 
Bravesst

Bravesst

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Manufacturer
NorVape said:
This was a nice read :)
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thanks... I love vaping and mastering the different vapes / apparatus / techniques. It's becoming sort of my "hobby"... wife and therapist both not crazy that I'm getting "more into pot", but fuck them. I'm feeling better, especially when I get it right. I've been going higher temps, don't mind a drop of heat, and lungs can take a strong pull. I know that is suppose to release more of the CBD's and other cannaboids that relieve anxiety, and I can tell you when I get it all right, it works. Wish I had access to the best medical grade herb, but I guess I am lucky to be right outside NYC and at least get some kick ass stuff (even if I don't know it's name).
 
ginolicious

ginolicious

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Great read.

What bugs me is cashing a bowl early. Usually I'll vape at 188C. When I don't really
Notice vapor or taste it I'll increase to 195-200C to get
All from the bowl. I use to
Only vape a session at one temperature. Now I go higher to finish it off.
 
Bravesst

Bravesst

Full Steam Ahead
Manufacturer
Sipping Mighty probably made it easier to switch than anything. It TASTES incredible, even near the end isn't too bad (at anything 386 or under). Drying herb is key to good taste, less harshness, and no desire to smoke.
@ginolicious - playing with the temps is way cool, but to each his own
 
ginolicious

ginolicious

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Bravesst said:
Sipping Mighty probably made it easier to switch than anything. It TASTES incredible, even near the end isn't too bad (at anything 386 or under). Drying herb is key to good taste, less harshness, and no desire to smoke.
@ginolicious - playing with the temps is way cool, but to each his own
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It is true.

Some people say to only vape at one temperature per bowl. I usually got a little higher at the end.

The bud I have this time is different. Needs a higher temperature than the pink kush I had.
 
CarolKing

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Some bud requires a higher or lower temp than other. If your product is very dry it would require a lower heat most of the time.

Some folks like to start their temp low and work up to a higher heat, if you are using a vaporizer that responds quickly to a change in temp such as a Solo.

There are no set rules just suggestions, sometimes it's just personal preference. Do what works well for you. Try different heat levels, higher heat is usually more sedative and works well for pain. I use water filtration mostly at night so I can hit the higher heat without any harshness.

It's so nice to be able to enjoy the taste of different strains of cannabis. When combusting it seems to all taste the same. I don't remember even noticing the different tastes, just whether or not the herb medicated or not.
 
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ginolicious

ginolicious

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CarolKing is correct.

It's a science experiment. Find the temperature that works well for you. It will take time learning. I started at 160C last few weeks then I realized I preferred the high at 180-190C.

Had a bowl last night at 195C, took 4-5 hits and I was out like a light. Different strains reapond differently.
 
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MrHendricks

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Hi all. Joined this forum some time ago when I first started dabbling with vapes but couldn't drop the tobacco mixed spliffs. Been smoking them for over 25 years now so not easy switching. Used the vape as more of a top up for a while but just didn't get the right hit off it to totally move. Worse than that, the missus really didn't get it so we just kind of carried on doing what we always have.

Skip forward a few months and have just about cracked it. Major change was discovering the balloon in the arizer extreme and filling it with 210c vapour. That had enough power to cut through the demand for the nicotine. I've never smoked fags so it has been easier for me than my wife to drop the tobacco. Been through loads of vapes before settling on the extreme for a big hit after tea when the kids are in bed And the Solo for a top up later.

Real motivation came when the summer kicked in and smoking in the garden was suddenly difficult with people's windows open and their kids bedrooms filling up with my smoke. Not good so I thought needs must and jus man up and get on with it. Oh and the strain I had absolutely reeked, the whole garden smelt like the Dam!

Reading through this thread has been really cool as knowing there are others going through the transition is helpful.

As for the missus, just getting into the future here as have now come across the e juice scenario. E cigarette filled with extract and a tiny bit of nicotine has moved her forwards a bit. Just investing in a sub ohm one as think it needs the power to be truly effective. Got to say the potential is stunning and someone's going to make a lot of money when they nail this properly.
 
woolspinner

woolspinner

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zor said:
FWIW, cancer isn't the only adverse effect from smoking...COPD and other lung-related diseases may develop especially with the tar produced from smoking.
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Yes.
I have never smoked cigarettes and did not smoke weed very often until recently when I probably take one bong hit a day. I do have mild asthma, though. Since I increased my combusted marijuana use, I have been coughing quite frequently, had more chest congestion, and had to use my albuterol inhaler nearly every day (compared to once or twice a month before). I can attest, based on my recent experience (just maybe 4 weeks since I decided to smoke more often - and 1st week was 3x/wk, 2nd more...etc) COMBUSTION IS HARMFUL to one's respiratory function.
My new portable vaporizer arrives tonight and cannot arrive too soon!
@BongoBongo - you mention tasting things now...this is because tobacco screws up your sense of taste. As you adapt to being cigarette/tobacco free, your senses of taste and smell will return. Best of luck to all of you trying to break the nicotine habit! The most addictive recreational drug, isn't it? I think they say it is worse than meth, but I cannot recall.
 
Churrucaman

Churrucaman

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Hey folks,

Haven't been much around lately. This sunday I finally hit the two months mark without tobacco. Combusted 1 or 2 joints during this time using Knaster herbs as filler and seems it served it's purpose (reminding me the awfulness of combustion without the addictive factor of nicotine).

Not craving anymore aside from the occasional miss-the-old-times feeling so after being a heavy smoker for 21 years I can call myself a non combuster for the first time. For those that are in a similar situation I recommend you to go for it, been smoking cigars, cigarettes and even pipe for more than half of my life so if I could handle this there's hope for you as well.

Now that it seems this is under control it's my turn to pass the baton for those that may want to share their experience with the subject. Will be around for help and advice in case I'm needed.

Stay strong.
 
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