Discontinued The Hammer Vaporizer

Custom Flower Hardware

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Okay after a day using the hammer, here are my thoughts.

Pros.
cloud production

Cons.
Thing gets way too hot

Have the flame adjusted as high as I can get it but 50 second pre head and 20 second between hit

I thought I bought the pro but there is no locking on of stems at all, broke one within 12 hours because the thing basically needs to be held in place. Also they are pretty weak

I have ventti brand butane which should be okay, but I'll try better butane. Purged it and reliable ignition is still a problem.

I don't care for taste but it is harsher than my solo

I don't believe it's getting as hot as quick is have seen, played with the gears but I might pull it apart one day.

Butane nipple was leaking but it's stopped.

Overall
I still love it, Havnt used my solo again yet, but I see it as being some what of a prototype to something that I'd happily spend good money on. So far I do believe it's over priced, but I'd buy another one regardless.
Any idea where to source the cheapest stems for this vape? I don't think I want to spent much more money in this thing, but I would like to have more than 1 stem.

Cloud production is not what I had hoped but it's still better than the solo, I'll keep fiddling.
definitely a learning curve:) i had one good session and cant figure it out again! Danngit!:) i gotta keep practicing!
 

Tommy10

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definitely a learning curve:) i had one good session and cant figure it out again! Danngit!:) i gotta keep practicing!
Exactly I have been chasing a few dragons, I just wish they weren't so elusive. I like the solo for hour easy it is to get reliable clouds. But that will get better I'm sure. So far I am running about .1ish slightly pushed down to around the start of the neck taper. And run it might hot
The hammer I am still continuing to be amazed at how much I can pull out of so little. But is like to do it in half the draws if you know what I mean.
I'll attach it to the bong latter, but it's just down a slightly wider glass tube it a rubber stop, so if it wiggles too much I won't do it, can't break my last stem until some new ones are at my door step!
I'm thinking water will help, because I can take more vape but the heat is so hard on the throat, I'd assume it's 430+ Fahrenheit which I like! but either a water pipe or whip.
The ignition I can live with, just have to find a sweet spot, and the heat and heating times are doable. The stem situation is a bit of a nightmare, hopefully I can find some inexpensive replacements, or maybe a ed's wood stem? Given I like to turn my abv into 3 shades from black the wood stem might battle the heat a bit?
 

Tommy10

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I will do what any true fcer would do and read this thread door to door and have a nice test day!:) sorta like the cera back in the day:)
Been pretty well over this thread and have done some tinkering. I'm thinking butane could need upgrading, or weed could be too poor, I get decent weed for Australia but I doubt it would be much in America, where most reviewer and test videos come from. Either way, I do love it. Just a few minor problems, some story of timer switch like the temp switch would be nice. A slide from left - right, holding it down, to say 120 seconds. If that's possible.
 

subway13029

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Guys the hammer is a very easy device to master..does your stems have a flare where you pack your material? This part goes on the hammer and there is a somewhat clear o ring on the hammer and when u slide the end of the stem over it that is it locking in place..should leave it to where it's a one handed operation..I usually heat up for like 25 seconds and then start pulling and release trigger and 5 seconds if pulling but keep pulling your hit .it takes maybe 2 or 3 hits to start seeing clouds sometimes but I don't rush into it .I usually have my dial at maybe 3/4 way up..after initial visual vapor it takes to hold trigger for about 8 seconds between hits...I promise you guys will get it and love this thing..mine works smooth as the day I got it..btw where did you guys buy your hammer?
 

Tommy10

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Okay, just switched it up to loading little balls of herb into the hearing element, obviously I'd be stoked if the glass stayed in place, and if they didn't break so easily, and I'd love a trigger lock or timer.... But the cloud production is very impressive! My now method is to load the herb I to the hammer, heat for around 30 seconds, then keep hearing for about another 10 seconds of draw and fishing when you please. Subsequent hits seem to be ready to pull in a matter of 10-15 seconds with a few more for the draw.
Bong got super milky so that is a plus.
I have used a whisper a bit, and didn't care much for it, for more the hammer has a lot of issues, but it's certainly got me interesting in butane vaporizers again!

To know when to hit, I like to blow into the stem and see the thick vapor billow out of the opposite hole. Ver cool! Looks like priming an E-cig whick. Love it!

Edit to add. While my hammer stems fit like crap, my arizer air short plastic tip stem fits in a charm! I wish it had small form factor but it is a much more snug fit, and I feel it's a sturdier stem overall.
 
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paytonpenn

Level 30 Nature/Healer
Agreed overtime I started noticing newer Hammer stems just weren't being made the same way, my older lock on stems were great. They are smaller and actually lock on, my newer ones are a little wider, unfortunately that 2mm makes a huge difference. At some points I got the newer lo stems and they removed the screen holder, then even newer ones with a gong and it was all too loose for me.

I still recommend mflb tubing and UD stems. Snug fits and better stems.

Please @Hammer Vaporizer if you guys ever comeback go back to older stems and please please non lock on stems.
 

Philreal187

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I wanted to share the tuning process with everyone here so if your light isn't heating up right be very care when tuning it will cause damage to the unit and I bet it might even effect the warranty so this is just to help anyone who might need a slight tuning just be smart about it and take your time.

First part is hold the hammer so the big end is facing the roof and the lighter trigger is facing the floor.

Next turn the heating dial all the way up to the plus sign on the right.

If you look close there is a small gear right below the thumb pad.



What you want to do is carefully place the tip of the nail in the last notch to the left of the thumb pad.

Then gently push it right towards the thumb pad.



The gear will want to slid just a little notch then stop so you must use a soft touch to get it to move.

Finally test it and see how it turned out.


To get my hammer back in turn it only took about 3 notches to slid and now it works great. If you find that your lighter just isn't heating quite up to par you now know how to make minor adjustments to the tuning. PLEASE just be careful and don't over tune it can melt or even catch the hammer on fire.


@ShayWhiteGrow this post may help with the longer heat up times and bring it to the normal 30 sec
 

Tommy10

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I can not get a photo but I'll explain my current technique. I have my hammer stem in my bong and use my airizer stem direct draw.

I load maybe .7-1 into the heating element, and heat for around 25 seconds, attach my arizer stem and give it a slight blow to see vape form. If it's sufficient I start to draw slow for 3 seconds with the ignition on, depending on the feel of it obviously. I then cut the ignition and continue to draw for another 5 or so seconds. I then change to a quick draw and start the flame until I have filled my lungs.

Combusted maybe 4/15 so far with this conduction method I like to run it hot so it's user error just need to find the sweet spot. it's much more enjoyable for me, Almost chalk and cheese.
 

subway13029

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My hammer is eemming to have issues now?seems to roast my material before I even get vapor..even with the flame turned down..it do my usual heat up and when I start hitting it the flavor is burnt like and when I look at the stem..everything g on top layer is charred to a crisp..
 
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Walter Bishop

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My hammer is eemming to have issues now?seems to roast my material before I even get vapor..even with the flame turned down..it do my usual heat up and when I start hitting it the flavor is burnt like and when I look at the stem..everything g on top layer is charred to a crisp..

Maybe increase the speed of your draw?

Only time I char the hell out of a load is when I draw super slow.
 

Tommy10

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Update. Getting better at this hammering. In turn, loving it more.

80% of the time I am using conduction either with an arizer air stem (the entire element fits inside the bowl and it sort of just slots on... Better fit than in the solo). Obviously there is no bowl space left so arizer stems work for conduction only. Or using conduction with my hammer stem in my 12 inch dhgate cheapy bong. The cloud this gives is crazy!
I heat for roughly 30 seconds until I can see vapor blow out. I then start my draw slow until it is really toasting. I adjust my draw speed to cool it down, I find the hammer is good at keeping the heat up compared to the solo where a nice slow sip is needed for good clouds.
I find if I keep up a nice easy paced draw (closer to a pipe or nice joint) I can leave the flame on for most of the draw if not the entire draw.
Getting better at avoiding combustion, obviously I like to vape at what most would consider high temp so it comes with the territory but most of the times I have combusted has been from me drawing slow to see the limit getting extreme popcorn taste and then.... Boooom fire :/! I do not push the limits so much now and even just direct draw the cloud are very nice!

Also worth noting that I have realised while not ideal, this unit can be used without a proper fitting stem. I have inserted bud into the large end of the heating chamber and inhaled directly off the unit on the the opposite end. Can't be done for long due to heat, and obviously up to you for risks being the unit is plastic and there is a rubber looking seal on that end but I didn't notice much of an offensive taste. Can also use a dugout bat placed directly on either end in conduction mode. None of this you'd do for fun.... But it beats most home made options when there is no choice.

Been trying it in convection mode a bit, and I do like it. I just prefer the quicker heat up times, higher temps and large clouds. I also don't get much flavour wise from vaping (or I do and just don't care for it, not sure) and I actually don't mind the high temp harshness and even the popcorn taste.
In full disclosure I still regularly smoke (although much less than I vape) including blunts and spliffs from time, and if with friends who do it I will end have a toke of ciggy/weed mixed at around 75% weed through a bong (I am australian, a lot do it here) and while it's not my preference I don't mind it. So my opinion flavour wise is probably pretty useless.

I have no doubt for those who enjoy flavour, this thing with the glass stem in convection mode would be good. I have had a couple friends enjoy it that way (although the hammer does take a little more work do learn/explain than I anticipated, it's still achievable to have a seasoned smoker blowning clouds without combustion within a session). lent my solo to a mate, only hammering of late although I'll get the solo back soon because I do miss it a bit!
What I'm loving with the hammer is
Heat time
Cloud production
Durability (had a couple drops already)
And it's versatility blows my mind! When you think it's just a butane lighter.

I want to one day spend and get maybe a cloud evo or something, but this will keep me going for a while. Compared to the solo it fits my needs much better, and for what I was looking for I consider it a decent upgrade. For all it's faults (holding the trigger, gets super hot, shitty stem fit, butane lighters are just a pain in general) I still think it Is a wonderful device purely for it's cloud production and portability.

These are my thoughts on the unit, I am no authority to be commenting on flavour and such. But if like you you want something that is going to give big clouds as your main concern it's a winner!
Also I Havnt used many of the portables generally deemed super efficient such as the firefly and some other butane things. Have used a mflb but didn't load it so not too sure. I will confidently say that I do get to where I want to be with less weed with the hammer vs the solo. Although I think for me personally this has a lot to do with the fact I hang off the solo when I'm using it. When grass is plentiful (this is Australia not Colorado :( many weed finding nightmares to be had from time to time!) I love just loading it bowl after bowl and vaping away. The hammer to me is a little bit more of a pain in the ass so I find I use it less often, and it holds less so these things all matter.

Anywayssss, bit of rambling on what I think. Overall, got a few cons but you take the good with the bad when it's going to blow mushroom clouds :). Enjoy!
 

paytonpenn

Level 30 Nature/Healer
Woohoo finally some crazy conduction users.

Are you doing pure conduction or mixing it with convection?
 
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Tommy10

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Woohoo finally some crazy conduction users.

Are you doing pure conduction or mixing it with convection?
100% lifted from your videos! So thank you gladly! I spent a long time watching your videos trying to get my arizer to milk like your videos and they were 80% of the reason I bought a hammer. And I'm proud to say what I once thought had to be camera and lighting trickery I can now confirm! Hammer will milk a little bong no dramas!!
Straight conduction, Havnt tried a combo. Do you believe it is possible to extract more from one hit using both at once? I will try soon.

Edit to add, while I do love the hammer I am still not happy with the stems. Broke a stem first go, if it were a case of being told you basically have to hold the stem to the element and it's two handed I could deal with it. However my "lock on stem" fell out after like 30 seconds of very steady single hand use dropped about 1m and smashed on the floor before the bowl was heated. At first I blamed myself, but after much fiddling with my remaining stem I'd still be upset if they advertised them as "fit on stems" let alone the word "lock".... But anyways, it can be deal with once you remove any thoughts of stems "locking" or any form of attachment to anything. I'll use it single handed in bed above my mattress and it will usually fall off once or twice a bowl. I think the solo will have to be the bedtime vape for this reason which is sad because I much prefer hotter temps before bed.
 
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sadf

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How well do the underdog stems fit? I've had my Hammer for a couple weeks and one of the included lock on stems has already cracked down the bell that fits onto the silicone ring, if I'm going to keep using this thing I'm considering UD nylon stems.
 

various127

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I've been looking for a new stem for my hammer for a while. I thought the UD stems would fit with buying anything extra. I'm also interested in seeing how the nylon stems would get because I'm looking to try those too. If not I feel like the wood stem would be best.

Also how do you use conduction mode without inhaling the herb back into the basket screen. Are you using two screens?
 

Custom Flower Hardware

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Ok gang I've mastered my Hammer and have been using it heavily for the past week (giggidy) and here is my take on it.:tup: Why didn't I make this purchase YEARS AGO??!!:shrug::doh: This is one AMAZING tool.:nod: After a brief curve and once I got used to the gas and heating it was off to the races!:rockon:30 second heat up means 30 seconds! :clap: This thing is FAST!! :cool: Taste, well whatta you expect from glass/convection?:drool: Efficiency, well I have yet to use a vape that performs this well with such a small amount excluding Herbie. All and all the Hammer has a place in my daily routine now and with the money I save on weed I can keep my VAS alive and well.:D Thanks @Jambi619 for literally passing the torch! :wave: I love it so much I went and bought a second one for the office!:science:
 

paytonpenn

Level 30 Nature/Healer
I've been looking for a new stem for my hammer for a while. I thought the UD stems would fit with buying anything extra. I'm also interested in seeing how the nylon stems would get because I'm looking to try those too. If not I feel like the wood stem would be best.

Also how do you use conduction mode without inhaling the herb back into the basket screen. Are you using two screens?
I pack pretty well into the chamber when using conduction, also do unground pellets. But I also inhale pretty slow, especially if I am starting early because a lot of vapor hasn't formed yet from the conduction heating method. Slow is best with conduction.

I would recommend putting a screen in the stem you use. I don't think I've ever used a screen directly behind the herb to prevent it from being inhaled or loosening out of the exchanger. I have put a screen in the exchanger to prevent it from being pushed into it but I no longer care about that.

UD stems need MFLB tubing to fit well, I think the default Hammer gasket is too thick.
 

KidFated.

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I pack pretty well into the chamber when using conduction, also do unground pellets. But I also inhale pretty slow, especially if I am starting early because a lot of vapor hasn't formed yet from the conduction heating method. Slow is best with conduction.

I would recommend putting a screen in the stem you use. I don't think I've ever used a screen directly behind the herb to prevent it from being inhaled or loosening out of the exchanger. I have put a screen in the exchanger to prevent it from being pushed into it but I no longer care about that.

UD stems need MFLB tubing to fit well, I think the default Hammer gasket is too thick.
Thanks ;) im trying this as soon as I get somewhere with no wind! Got the vapman and hammer on the dirtbike, we're doing some rippin around, but it's too windy on top of the mine dumps to deal with ground flower.

No wispy hits!
 

Tommy10

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I pack pretty well into the chamber when using conduction, also do unground pellets. But I also inhale pretty slow, especially if I am starting early because a lot of vapor hasn't formed yet from the conduction heating method. Slow is best with conduction.

I would recommend putting a screen in the stem you use. I don't think I've ever used a screen directly behind the herb to prevent it from being inhaled or loosening out of the exchanger. I have put a screen in the exchanger to prevent it from being pushed into it but I no longer care about that.

UD stems need MFLB tubing to fit well, I think the default Hammer gasket is too thick.

Have you ever used something to inhale for the small end of the hammer? And can that gasket be removed leaving just the exposed metal tube?

http://www.dhgate.com/product/quart...mm-domeless/240381737.html#s1-7-1b|2005194425

I feel like that would make an inexpensive drawing tube for using convection off the back end.
 
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