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John Lewus

Well-Known Member
No need to apologize :)
It's just better to keep things clear :)
Percs and such can get confusing to keep track of...


Someone (sorry can't remember who) mentioned Steven had mentioned a V2 to them...
I personally didn't like the sound of the changes, but no-one has really discussed them further as far as I know... There may be design reasons for certain changes that I'm not aware of, but ATM they sound like a step backwards :shrug:
I'm going to contact Steven later today to ask about it :)

Jane contacted me back and said that only the new version of the fc-1000 that is smaller is available. Coupon expires soon. What to do what to do. :shrug:
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Interesting. Since one of the high praises for the E-Nano seems to be its exceptional flavor, I may want to go with the 187 to preserve that flavor as much as I can. Then again, I'm all about the smooth hits. Ah, choices...

Thanks for the info.

IMO the GB-187 (and probably 187-S) are great for the nano! Don't want to step on any toes here - I know some of you kids love all the pretty percs and bubbles - but for vaping less is more. IMO pillar percs, eggs, etc. etc. are fun to look at and play with, but are going to smooth the flavor right out of your vapor. Would think they'd be great for combusting and wanting to take huge rips without coughing your head off. Perfect if you're smoking one hits of schwag or doing QWISO dabs. But the more they "smooth", the more flavor they're taking from every hit, and leave me wanting if vaping a la nano.

There are a few that have cool vapor paths that do retain the flavor, but I think those are pretty few and far between. 2 of my personal favorites are the FC-710 and D-Cycler. Both continue to impress me with their lovely flavor retention. But, if I could have only one Chinese piece with my nano, it would be the GB-187. Don't even have to think about it.

If you're using a nano, and enjoying the fine flavor it brings - go for a simple perc, with little diffusion, and keep the water level just high enough for function. More bubbles, more diffusion, more water contact, will all lead to more water filtration and less flavor.

So less truly is more unless you're looking to make impressive bubble videos. And if I want that, I can just put a drop of dishwashing liquid in any of my glass and have bubbles galore! Yeah... it would probably taste like shit, but if you're washing out all of the flavor from your tasty vapors - why not just totally screw it up?
 

MarsellusWallace

Well-Known Member
@flotntoke

All great info thanks a bunch. The D-cycler looks amazing! At first it appears like the nano wouldn't fit--the place where you would place the nano looks like it is too close to the rest of the piece, but if you have experience with it I trust your words.
 

Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
Well that's kinda disappointing...

I'd probably eventually buy a smaller matrix pillar if it was a separate model, but it'd be a shame if they made the FC-1000 smaller just because they can't pack it well...

Saying it breaks in shipping means either they aren't wrapping them properly, or they aren't constructed properly...

This is seriously one of the only nice large pieces, I've seen coming from China, and now they want to friggin miniaturize them again?
Bleh :(
They've already got 48 billion mini rigs - let us have our large pieces too :\
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
@flotntoke

All great info thanks a bunch. The D-cycler looks amazing! At first it appears like the nano wouldn't fit--the place where you would place the nano looks like it is too close to the rest of the piece, but if you have experience with it I trust your words.

Yes. nano fits with no trouble on mine. Keep in mind you'll probably need an adapter because D-Cycler is 14mm male. 14mm F > 18mm F adapter gives it even a bit more clearance and allows for simple lift to clear easily. I really like this pairing, tho just a little less than my nano on the GB-187. Mostly because of GB-187's larger can and ability to hit it real slow and easy, keeping diffusion to a minimum.
 

VAPORIZER22

Well-Known Member
Jane contacted me back and said that only the new version of the fc-1000 that is smaller is available. Coupon expires soon. What to do what to do. :shrug:

I messaged Jane last night and she informed me that they had a second bath of the FC 1000's that they were shipping and that in the future they would be shipping the smaller version once they started producing them.

I am going to message again just to make sure what she told me last night is accurate. I informed her that I would want to cancel my order if the smaller version is the only one available and she did not say that my order would have to be canceled.
 
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Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
Link to this piece? Can't seem to find it on CCG's store.
I'm on my phone ATM, but here's a pic of it till I can get you the link :)
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TheBlazingBeast

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Jane contacted me back and said that only the new version of the fc-1000 that is smaller is available. Coupon expires soon. What to do what to do. :shrug:

Received my Matrix Pillar this week! This fires NICE, highly recommended for vaping. However I have discovered some cracks at the bottom of a few pillars. Many start from the inside face of the pillar tubes & go up. Water/air does not flow thru the cracks, functions as intended so far. Was referred to Jane but hadn't yet heard about this.. Suddenly I am not so tempted to acquire a replacement my Fc-1000. :\

Functional, cracked piece > pristine condition, slightly less functional by design piece. Still I will demand compensation for a defective item. I may wrestle a straight fab outta him if he goes thru with the proposed pillar piece. I thought to get the maximum benefit from a pillar perc the idea to have a small surface area or pathway from top of the pillar to the mouthpiece. Instead he makes it larger? :mental:Frankly one is a bong & the other a bubbler. They may require differing tweaks, but BOTH need more reinforcement along the inside "ring" where the pillars sit.
 

VAPORIZER22

Well-Known Member
According to Jane, the smaller version of the FC 1000 has not been produced yet. I asked if the dimensions were the same, she said that the second batch of the FC 1000 is nearly identical to the first with very little difference, her words, she did not go into detail what the differences were.
 

SSVUN~YAH

You Must Unlearn, What You Have Learned...
Yes. nano fits with no trouble on mine. Keep in mind you'll probably need an adapter because D-Cycler is 14mm male. 14mm F > 18mm F adapter gives it even a bit more clearance and allows for simple lift to clear easily. I really like this pairing, tho just a little less than my nano on the GB-187. Mostly because of GB-187's larger can and ability to hit it real slow and easy, keeping diffusion to a minimum.
Many a happy night with the GB-187, it will be missed. However the FC-186 and UFO have made my top two and with a Yeti Hook being commissioned and my VAS kicking in I set her free!
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Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
Lol that vertigo cycler is flawed. 50$ straw. Save ur money
Well mine works fine...
I literally had a dab out of it like 20 seconds after taking that pic...

It can really only handle that 1 water level, any more and it doesn't quite perc/recycle properly, and any more and you can indeed take a drink, but I quite like it... :shrug:
 
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chainz

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hey guys dont worry, they said their paint is safe. lol :rolleyes:

"longerglassbong 2015-06-29 05:56

You understand wrong, our paints are safe, you can buy one to try!"

edit.

i also ordered a cheap tablet, i wonder what kind of crazy chinese spyware is built into those
did you order the painted egg then?
 
chainz,
Well, my fc-1000 finally showed up 28 days later, and the function is on point when you keep the water below the pillars
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....Buuuuut it came with a crack in the perc, so no "recycle mode" for me, it just chugs and chugs. Bummer. Hopefully my straight fab fairs the trip better and Steven makes this right somehow.
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A1FBG

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Debating between a recycler or micro double chamber rig. Both will make the vapor come into contact with water twice. So should i go with personal preference from here or are there some other factors i should put into play when purchasing
 
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ChiefKeefe

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Dont think vertigo designed that recycler to have water pull up the drain tube (as seen in both your water test and function video). The water should go under the perc not up the drain tube. I had the same problem and got a refund from CCG.
 
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Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
Dont think vertigo designed that recycler to have water pull up the drain tube (as seen in both your water test and function video). The water should go under the perc not up the drain tube. I had the same problem and got a refund from CCG.
:shrug:
I don't really care about a vortex, and my vapor travels exactly where I want it to.
The water from the perc also goes exactly where I want it to - up the pillars, then the uptube and into the recycling chamber.

So long as I'm not drinking water (which I have said before is very possible with this piece if you don't have the exact water level), I don't really mind if the pressure from me drawing makes the return water level jump up a bit... :shrug:
 

ChiefKeefe

Well-Known Member
Just a flawed design all in saying is it hits very different then the american one its modeled after. I even got a refund from CCG cause no matter what water level I had it was a 50$ glass straw. To each there own but arnt these all knock off rigs at the end of the day modeled after an american one? My point is it does not function as VERTIGO intended it to, which means it probsbly dosnt function how CCG intended it to.

The 2 main differences in this and the american one (whixh i owned for almost a year) is the funnel in the top was poked in wayyyy to far causing the water to shoot right into the MP, and also the drain is attached to high (causing it to pull upwards). I got my 55$ back from CCG and put towards an egg. Sold the vertigo for 20$ to a close friend. Multiple people agreed it was flawed.

Im just trying to look out for potential buyers, but to each there own.
 
CCG's torus clone showed up today, function is on point and build quality is great. The holes for the incycler seem very small and from the water test I did it's probably going to be a b**** to clean. Overall I'm underwhelmed compared to the fab egg and fc-1000 I've received, this one's going on craigslist.
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