Discontinued The Grasshopper
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vapemon
Well-Known Member
They have to, if they didnt everyone here and reddit would lose their shit about their lack of support and the whole life time warranty would instantly prove it was an untruthful selling point.
So yea they have to.
nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
I'd think the air would only need more time to heat up if the heater was "not hot enough", by which I mean not hot enough to keep up with a fast draw.
In the Cera loose leaf cartridge for example, once the coil is up to temp and the chamber is primed, a harder draw creates more vapor. In that vape, the heating coil reaches well over 1000ºF. You're not gonna get a 1000ºF heater in something as small and light as a Grasshopper without combusting and quickly turning the whole thing into something dangerous, but my curiosity lies in how much the heater geometry can mitigate that limitation.
It does sound like the heater is capable enough to still produce vapor during a hard draw, though the delivered temperature does seem to drop. That would mean that while you can't completely defeat the heater, you can make it "break a sweat" so to speak.
Such a limitation isn't enough for me to lose interest; there's plenty else about the vape to make it desirable if they succeed in production at scale. I'll keep dreaming of a portable convection vape with a powerful enough heater and smart enough power regulation to deliver a consistent air temperature regardless of draw speed…
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TheVapeStation
Well-Known Member
This isn't true. But maybe depends on the design. With the ssv mflb and flashvape when you breathe in you are bringing fresh air over the heat. You can breathe in enough to lower the temp significantly in these vapes. If you draw slowly you will get a denser hit because the air is circulating around the heater longer. If the cera realy reaches 1000 then it may not matter how hard you hit with that being said..
My unit does produces SLIGHTLY thinner vapor if I rip it but it is tough to overpower the heater. The differences in thickness are nothing compared to drawing fast on mflb or ssv. I usually use this to my advantage and have my ssv all the way up and pack a tiny amount and hit fast which causes the temp to come down where I like it.
nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
MFLB and FlashVape Stage 1 are conduction, meaning yes any air hitting the flowers is colder than they are and doesn't contribute to vaporization. SSV (I believe?) and FlashVape Stage 2 are convection however, meaning the air hitting the flowers is hotter than they are and causes the vaporization, and so if the vapor thins when you draw harder then you are overwhelming the heater's capability to heat the incoming air.
That's good to hear. I don't think this will be much of a hangup for me when mine comes in; it's only something keeping it from being something of a dream vape for me. Thanks for the reports, folks.
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Flyingcrocodile46
Well-Known Member
I think he probably meant U$
1x Bronze Ti + 1x Plain Ti (incl batteries and chargers) + 5x extra batteries cost me U$415 (NZ$605)
Tek
Well-Known Member
It's not overpowering the heater. Let's say the air temp is the same with a slow or fast draw through a convection vape, the faster you pull the less time that heated air has to vape the material. Pull slower and it has more time to work. Same reason the ac in your car will produce a colder temperature at the vents with the temp on max low but the fan speed on medium compared to high, it has more time to remove the heat from the air and works better/more efficiently. I'm not saying by totally ripping it like crazy it doesn't have the possibility to overpower the heater just regular slow or harder pulls that have the same air temp.
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What about the airpath? I asked him some technical 3D printing questions, but he reassured me the airpaith is cleaned and debris free (although he wouldn't disclose what 3D printing technology he is using to print the heaters)
I'm sure they're probably busy AF right now processing shipments, responding to a million customer questions, and trying to build more grasshoppers. All while trying to manage inventory, and troubleshoot the few early failure reports.
I'd like to see more GH reports, but I'm sure less than 1/3rd of current GH owners are Reddit or FC members, so there's probably a bunch more in shipping that we don't know about
slcbdco
Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist
I couldn't tell you how much I use because I never measure. What I can say that regardless the strain I've been trying to use less and less because since such little green goes such a long way in re-learning my vape habits.
It's definitely better to use as little as possible because you can get several hits and be high from just a pinch, I wasn't expecting that from this vape and didn't think it was possible.
What I was saying is that the o-pen (Maybe you don't have this exact brand in your state but in Colorado we have a lot of pre-loaded oil cartridge pen style Vapes) is the closest thing to describing the speed at which you take the device out of your pocket take a few hits like literally 1 or 2 though you could temp step and get up to 10 hits on a pinch if you're really being a grinch but why? BTW in that video where the Budtender says "it tastes just like a vaporizer" I know exactly what he meant, he was talking about an oil cartridge vape, here colloqully a lot dispensaries call them Vapes because the make oil cartridges of their own flower and some taste amazing and get you pretty ripped in a few rips. The GH IMO is better flavor and better potency than those types of pens plus no cartridge to leak, I choose the strain, I can do a pinch then another strain, yadda yadda, I mean i always preferred flower but i used oil pens out and about for convince.
That will now be over. With the pinch method the little "dope eggs" that I used to carry around 3 with my pax to maybe get through a night out with the GH I should be able to get away with just one. I compared a GH pax ABV comparison pic a few pages back, I did not expect to be impressed by the efficiency since I live in Colorado, I'm not usually concerned with running out. I didn't think I would care about this "feature" because I like to enjoy the flavor of cannabis and have a very high tolerance so I figure I can always have more if I'm high enough. With the GH if there is a problem is usually "oh I know there is a tasty hit left in there but I need to chill for a minute before I take another hit."
Just reload another pinch and have full flavor hits each time, pretty much there is no way to waste bud with this and I am a daily, all day consumer, no other device lets me rip a pinch in two hits and put it away satisfied, not even a bowl, the only thing would really be a dab that gets me higher faster.
I was actually expecting this to be more like a firefly flavor but can sip it like a pax.
OOPS! instead id say is slightly better (more reliable is the right word because it takes no technique to hit it) than the firefly in taste but the problem with "sessioning" this vape is not that you can't. You totally could but whether by yourself or sharing it still makes more sense to reload pinch by pinch.
Going pinch by pinch the benefits are:
Best Flavor every time
Almost no cleaning, such little portions literralu just fall out when you unpack the ABV
If for whatever reason you didn't get where you needed to be on the 3-10 hits (dependent on temp) you got from a pinch, just throw in another pinch and treat yourself I tasty freshies.
So in real time I had loaded what I would call 2 pinches (or I thought was 2 pinches, I have consistently at the end of every bowl with this thing so far been surprised with how high I am and then again when I see how little was in there.
So what I usually do is start on 2 and work up to about 4, then kill the bowl on 5 with a bubbler.
Right now i started on 3 and took a rip here and there, then went up to 4 and took a few more then took one last rip at 5. How many? not sure cus I was writing this post and I'm also super high, it was a wake and bake session.
Other things you might want to know, I had a fully charged battery last night, this morning the bowl that was in there was about half packed and mostly done, was that the first bowl and this the second? Who knows, what I do know is that bowl was smoked, this bowl was just smoked some several hours later and there is still some battery left, how much? I'll find out but give me a minute, I'm not ready for more yet sir :-)
Strain, well strains, I'm using a mixed bowl of Terrapin Care Station's Agent Orange Terrapincarestation.com and The Farm's Tangerine Haze thefarmco.com I call it tangent orange, I'm like a mixologist for weed
. These are not crazy strong strains I'd say in the 19% range. Sativas both, lots of citrus terepenes so a fun mix for a flavor chaser like me.Anyway here is a pic of the ABV from that session, in my opinion I could have gotten a few more rips out of that but as I said above, why? there ain't no famine out here in Colorado, when I can treat my own self to tasty freshies I would declare that bowl be gone dull care!
#letthemeatcrawfish
p.s. I hope I got around to the point at some point, if not, my bad, it's hard to ask questions about the GH when one has one because then you're just high all the time ...
The Grasshopper? Opulence, I has it ;-)
http://m.imgur.com/7uSHN7Y
I also haven't quite figured out the multi-quote feature yet due to "Grasshopper led misadventures" I'm sure (GLM I'm so glad that's a thing now) but here are few more things I want to respond to, first @Just Justin huge thanks for that slow draw tip. Just tried it with my "tangent orange" at 3.5 and got this thick taste party cloud, straight TREATIN, thanks!
Which brings me to @b0 um there is no comparison to the pax2. They are very different. devices. I would say this, take it as you will but i mean it positively because I think the pax2 will find a new better role in my life but if the GH was my first vape it would be my only vape. If you are looking for only one vape get a GH, the pax/2 is a good "cigar" if for example I'm walking around and want a blend of tobacco and other herbs including cannabis, that's when I will use my pax2. But when I wanna just enjoy some cannabis, whether just to taste the strain or to get ripped, I think I'll be reaching for my GH first.
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paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
I think it could be based on user, I never got that high from dabs so they were a pleasure to use before work as they left me super functional. I just got some GSC back in my possession and the Versa had me higher than I've been in the last six months. But I'm guessing this is more strain dependent but I've had a whole lot more variation with oil strains.
But I never feel very affected from oils while my friends would say "they haven't been this high in a minute."... And I always ask if they are actually high because rarely am I when in a group setting. But I do vape solo 98% of the time and use more than them to begin with.
I'd say .1g of herb is equivalent to at least 8 dabs (for me), the errl just never really had me too high. Nor would it last longer than an hour.
flotntoke
thoroughly vaped
Spot on @Tek ! Think "ovepowering the heater" can have something to do with it, but with portables mostly it is pulling the air across the load faster than it has a chance to get as heated. I've only tried about 1/2 dozen portables, but this seems to be true for MFLB, Vapman and other conduction based vapes. Solo on the other hand seems to suffer from both faster draw issues. Hit it real fast after a good warmup (or fast as you can with the resistance) and you'll get a lighter hit because of air temp. Hit it repeatedly quickly (like with a friend or two) and the heater doesn't keep up. Would be surprised to find a portable that doesn't respond with faster draw = lighter hits because air not getting as hot before it leaves the chamber. Though am glad to hear the GH doesn't seem to suffer from heater not keeping up! Slower draws don't seem to help this, only option is taking hits in slower succession.
It's exhilarating to think that the Grasshopper could potentially become a primary leader (or at least major player) in the portable vape market, if only the product roll-out were steadier. 
I don't know if I've ever had such high expectations for a new product.
I don't know if I've ever had such high expectations for a new product.
delloy
Well-Known Member
I couldn't tell you how much I use because I never measure. What I can say that regardless the strain I've been trying to use less and less because since such little green goes such a long way in re-learning my vape habits.
It's definitely better to use as little as possible because you can get several hits and be high from just a pinch, I wasn't expecting that from this vape and didn't think it was possible.
What I was saying is that the o-pen (Maybe you don't have this exact brand in your state but in Colorado we have a lot of pre-loaded oil cartridge pen style Vapes) is the closest thing to describing the speed at which you take the device out of your pocket take a few hits like literally 1 or 2 though you could temp step and get up to 10 hits on a pinch if you're really being a grinch but why? BTW in that video where the Budtender says "it tastes just like a vaporizer" I know exactly what he meant, he was talking about an oil cartridge vape, here colloqully a lot dispensaries call them Vapes because the make oil cartridges of their own flower and some taste amazing and get you pretty ripped in a few rips. The GH IMO is better flavor and better potency than those types of pens plus no cartridge to leak, I choose the strain, I can do a pinch then another strain, yadda yadda, I mean i always preferred flower but i used oil pens out and about for convince.
That will now be over. With the pinch method the little "dope eggs" that I used to carry around 3 with my pax to maybe get through a night out with the GH I should be able to get away with just one. I compared a GH pax ABV comparison pic a few pages back, I did not expect to be impressed by the efficiency since I live in Colorado, I'm not usually concerned with running out. I didn't think I would care about this "feature" because I like to enjoy the flavor of cannabis and have a very high tolerance so I figure I can always have more if I'm high enough. With the GH if there is a problem is usually "oh I know there is a tasty hit left in there but I need to chill for a minute before I take another hit."
Just reload another pinch and have full flavor hits each time, pretty much there is no way to waste bud with this and I am a daily, all day consumer, no other device lets me rip a pinch in two hits and put it away satisfied, not even a bowl, the only thing would really be a dab that gets me higher faster.
I was actually expecting this to be more like a firefly flavor but can sip it like a pax.
OOPS! instead id say is slightly better (more reliable is the right word because it takes no technique to hit it) than the firefly in taste but the problem with "sessioning" this vape is not that you can't. You totally could but whether by yourself or sharing it still makes more sense to reload pinch by pinch.
Going pinch by pinch the benefits are:
Best Flavor every time
Almost no cleaning, such little portions literralu just fall out when you unpack the ABV
If for whatever reason you didn't get where you needed to be on the 3-10 hits (dependent on temp) you got from a pinch, just throw in another pinch and treat yourself I tasty freshies.
So in real time I had loaded what I would call 2 pinches (or I thought was 2 pinches, I have consistently at the end of every bowl with this thing so far been surprised with how high I am and then again when I see how little was in there.
So what I usually do is start on 2 and work up to about 4, then kill the bowl on 5 with a bubbler.
Right now i started on 3 and took a rip here and there, then went up to 4 and took a few more then took one last rip at 5. How many? not sure cus I was writing this post and I'm also super high, it was a wake and bake session.
Other things you might want to know, I had a fully charged battery last night, this morning the bowl that was in there was about half packed and mostly done, was that the first bowl and this the second? Who knows, what I do know is that bowl was smoked, this bowl was just smoked some several hours later and there is still some battery left, how much? I'll find out but give me a minute, I'm not ready for more yet sir :-)
Strain, well strains, I'm using a mixed bowl of Terrapin Care Station's Agent Orange Terrapincarestation.com and The Farm's Tangerine Haze thefarmco.com I call it tangent orange, I'm like a mixologist for weed
Anyway here is a pic of the ABV from that session, in my opinion I could have gotten a few more rips out of that but as I said above, why? there ain't no famine out here in Colorado, when I can treat my own self to tasty freshies I would declare that bowl be gone dull care!
#letthemeatcrawfish
p.s. I hope I got around to the point at some point, if not, my bad, it's hard to ask questions about the GH when one has one because then you're just high all the time ...
The Grasshopper? Opulence, I has it ;-)
http://m.imgur.com/7uSHN7Y
I also haven't quite figured out the multi-quote feature yet due to "Grasshopper led misadventures" I'm sure (GLM I'm so glad that's a thing now) but here are few more things I want to respond to, first @Just Justin huge thanks for that slow draw tip. Just tried it with my "tangent orange" at 3.5 and got this thick taste party cloud, straight TREATIN, thanks!
Which brings me to @b0 um there is no comparison to the pax2. They are very different. devices. I would say this, take it as you will but i mean it positively because I think the pax2 will find a new better role in my life but if the GH was my first vape it would be my only vape. If you are looking for only one vape get a GH, the pax/2 is a good "cigar" if for example I'm walking around and want a blend of tobacco and other herbs including cannabis, that's when I will use my pax2. But when I wanna just enjoy some cannabis, whether just to taste the strain or to get ripped, I think I'll be reaching for my GH first.
@slcbdco Yeah, yeah but wheres the bloody video....haha
TheVapeStation
Well-Known Member
Just an update my video has a 60 minute upload time still. I will have a link soon! It is just over 40 minutes.
vapebuddy13
Your resident Super Hero
For those who have complained about Trevor not responding to your emails....... I sent him one a few days ago (forget when exactly) about the shipping dates and how accurate they are since I plan on being away a decent portion of August... Figured he just skipped it bc its about shipping but he just emailed be back maybe an hr ago saying they are meant to be accurate shipping estimates and not buffer estimates... so for those thinking he's ignoring you, just remember he is prob getting tons of emails and that does take time to get through + run GH labs
TheVapeStation
Well-Known Member
It is proccessing on youtube now 25 minutes. You guys may see it before I have a chance to add all the annotations and time markers in the description just give me till tonight on those.
Edit: IT WAS JUST DELETED FOR BEING TO LONG WHAT THE HELL. It tells me now really. Hang on I may need to try and become a directors channel or something...
Edit 2: ok that wasn't so bad just had to verify my account. Here is the link!
Edit: IT WAS JUST DELETED FOR BEING TO LONG WHAT THE HELL. It tells me now really. Hang on I may need to try and become a directors channel or something...
Edit 2: ok that wasn't so bad just had to verify my account. Here is the link!
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Jazzah
Well-Known Member
Does that silicon mouthpiece come with the vape? Just ordered one. Up until now I've only had the herborizer and the sublimator, so vaping was exclusively @ home but seeing that the indiegogo campaign I stumbled upon 2 years ago has turned out to be real (props to you courageous early investors) and seeing all the positive responses as well as the sheer beauty and stealthiness of the design, I couldn't resist. Mine's due for september so that gonna be a summer spent in anticipation. @TheVapeStation Thanx for the excellent review
so excited to watch this when i get home from work today haha. thanks for posting it @TheVapeStation
TheVapeStation
Well-Known Member
Thank you for watching! I am glad you liked it! Sorry about that small out of focus section. If I remeber correctly Right now it is included they said later do to the increase in cost they may charge 5 dollars. I hope they do not and just include it in the regular price cause you definately need it above a 2.
2clicker
Observer
i gotta say the battery life, hot tip, and the vapor production do not really impress me.
after watching that video i am not sure how it can even be compared to a desktop vape. maybe its the lighting in the video, but i saw very little vapor. even when the heat was up high it didnt come close to milking that piece. my INH05 and solo can really milk glass... even with small amounts. flavor tho does seem like it would be better from the grasshopper.
this vape looks very well made and def has a market, but im not sure its for me. looks like its great for super tasty stealth vaping for one person, but not much else.
ill keep my eye on this one and hope to see an 18650 version produced.
after watching that video i am not sure how it can even be compared to a desktop vape. maybe its the lighting in the video, but i saw very little vapor. even when the heat was up high it didnt come close to milking that piece. my INH05 and solo can really milk glass... even with small amounts. flavor tho does seem like it would be better from the grasshopper.
this vape looks very well made and def has a market, but im not sure its for me. looks like its great for super tasty stealth vaping for one person, but not much else.
ill keep my eye on this one and hope to see an 18650 version produced.