OK, here is my reclaim after about 18hrs of evap, What now?

matthend · May 8, 2015

I cleaned out all my glass with everclear and evapped it away in a top cabinet. Below is the pyrex as it sits now. I am planning on mixing it with coconut oil and doing some sort of edibles this weekend. Can I scrape this now and simmer it with some coco butter now for a couple of hours in some sort of double boiler setup? Open to any and all suggestions, advice, and highdeas...
Thanks!
Matt

stickstones · May 8, 2015

If I'm not mistaken, you can do anything with it since it's already decarbed. I don't think you need butter to get your system to absorb it. You can scrape some off and vape it.

matthend · May 8, 2015

I was under the impression that it binds better with the coco oil and is more readily absorbed into your system for a stronger effect. I am leaning towards some sort of fudge or something as a final product right now

amberevil · May 8, 2015

Yes more bioavailability as badkat would say. I would try to do the simmering in the same dish so you dont have to scrape it. Throw in some coconut oil, maybe add some soy lecithin. I would try to just let it simmer long enough until everything binds uniformIy. I prefer caps for doseing purposes but just have fun with it.

matthend · May 8, 2015

I would like to scrape it so I know how much I am starting with to somewhat measure dosage

amberevil · May 8, 2015

I see I do the same thing. Just this last time though, while it was slightly liquid I poured it onto parchment paper a let the rest evap so I could weigh it easier. Not sure if some people think thats unsafe or not but I wouldnt mind her from some people on that topic.

Last time I did scrape my alcohol extract for canna caps I just rounded up a bit for the extra still in the dish and then went right back in that dish to get it all.

matthend · May 8, 2015

http://mcrlabs.com/blog/we-tested-reclaim-and-this-is-what-we-found/

Is this a good resource for guessing the strength of what I scrape? I am planning on using this do decide how much coconut oil to add. This should be an interesting weekend!

DabComa · May 8, 2015

matthend said:
I would like to scrape it so I know how much I am starting with to somewhat measure dosage

You could just write down what the dish weighs cleaned, then you can just weigh the dish, subtract, Presto whammo.

stickstones · May 9, 2015

amberevil said:
Yes more bioavailability as badkat would say.

So my comment was inaccurate, yes? I don't want to spread bad info and edibles are not my forte.

matthend · May 9, 2015

Scraped this morning. 3.6 grams which should work out to a little over 2k mg of thc. Trying to work out how much coconut oil I should add now...

matthend · May 11, 2015

@stickstones I wouldn't necessarily say inaccurate, because you can definitely eat it or dab it now and it will have an effect. It is just that binding it with the fat in the coconut oil enhances your bodies ability to process it.

Btw, still havent done anything with mine as we ended up babysitting this past weekend. Probably going to mix half of it with half a cup of butter and make a batch of fudge today, then decide what to do with the rest based on that experience.--

Ended up using 1.6 grams of reclaim with the aforementioned half cup of coconut oil and simmering it @230-250 for about an hour. It got a lot more of a hashy smell than I anticipated, which was kind of cool. Added it to a mix of a half cup of cocoa and a quarter cup of 'lyles golden syrup'. Once this was mixed, I sprinkled in a liberal handful of heath english toffe baking bits and threw it in a parchment lined bowl in the freezer. I am hoping i can divide it into 12 pieces that would average 75 to 80 mg each.

One more edit:
250 grams total of fudge, going to divide up into 25 gram chunks and individually wrap in parchment.

To be continued...

Neceros · Jun 18, 2015

I've done this and then vaped it on a nail. If you got most of the ISO out there shouldn't be any pops, but if you start hearing or seeing pops then there's a little bit of contaminate inside. Still, it won't really hurt you even then too badly.

herbivore21 · Jun 18, 2015

Whoa whoa whoa, that was only evaporated by leaving it to sit on top of a cabinet?

You need to do some kind of heat purge to get any residuals out! Double boiler for 45 mins to an hour should do it

matthend · Jun 18, 2015

@herbivore21 this is reclaim I am working with here, why would I still need to double boil it?

amberevil · Jun 18, 2015

Delete. Sorry my dumb ass still cant figure this quote thing out. @herbivore21 in his first post he asks if its okay to simmer for a few hours. Hes making edibles.

HD Springer · Jun 18, 2015

@matthend how was your fudge. I've been wanting to try something like this with my reclaim. I clean my glass w ISO and let evaporate at room temp. Then scrape and put on clean cotton ball and place in my eq on max temp and this is the best medicine I have ever had. Great tasting.

matthend · Jun 18, 2015

fudge was good, extremely rich and sweet. about 50g was enough to really feel it strongly, but that is a LOT of rich fudge to eat. Going to make canna capsules with the rest of this batch of reclaim

herbivore21 · Jun 18, 2015

matthend said:
@herbivore21 this is reclaim I am working with here, why would I still need to double boil it?

To completely evaporate the residual solvent you reclaimed with!!! If you have only used room temp/pressure to evaporate with no heat or vacuum added - Not all of the iso (ethanol is not such an issue for edibles so if you used this and don't mind consuming trace amounts of ethanol, then you are good to ignore this step) has evaporated out of your oil yet.

Safety first people!

You could heat it out with the coconut oil but I'd prefer to finish heat purging the reclaim alone on a double boiler to make sure there are no residuals at all before mixing it into food. Of course, if you used ethanol this is not such a concern for edibles - people can orally consume residual ethanol like this with no ill effect (but don't dab anything with residual ethanol!).

Also, especially if you used iso do not dab the oil on a nail to check anything! You should never, ever deliberately inhale hydrocarbon solvent fumes or apply that level of heat to anything that potentially has flammable solvents. I've seen dabs literally explode on nails before from this! You could even burn your eyes with flying hot spatters off the nail.

Remember to take care with your solvent use everybody. I know I may seem pedantic, but we do this shit all the time. You don't want to continually be dosing yourself with iso (or if you dab; it's degradation byproducts, which include acetone) on any regular basis!

Hope this helps to clarify things

matthend · Jun 19, 2015

@herbivore, I agree 100% if I were not making reclaim edibles with ethanol. In my situation, I figure the edibles are mind altering as they are and if a trace amount of everclear were to somehow makes it into the end result, no biggie.
That said, the one horse that lives forever (and can always use a beating) is completely and properly purging out solvents so :tup:

to your

mikeybmw · Jun 20, 2015

Jesus u got that out of cleaning your vape wondering what I'd get out of the extreme q elbow

HD Springer · Jun 20, 2015

You'd get the very best med's that $ could buy. For free. Almost.

brownstone403 · Jun 21, 2015

Hey guys, this is my first post on FC. I'm still sorta new to vaping. I'm a 22 year chronic pot smoker, and a former cigarette smoker, I quit smoking cigs a year ago after 20 years. After a year of no cigs, My lungs still felt awful, so I Put my bong away a month ago. and made the investment into a desktop and potable vape For health reasons mostly.

Best decision I've made, I love vaping, and it's transformed how I use my product now. I feel like it's a game changer for me. I love how clean it is, and how far my money goes. I'm learning to keep my ABV, and cook with it. It's liberating in a way for me. I feel like for 22 years I've been uneducated on something that is a huge part of my life.....

I've cleaned my herbalair and crafty a few times, with ethanol. I let it evaporate for a day on a dish. I then scrape into a pile. Ive done this a few times now, and have quite the pile. My question is how do I use it properly. What is a double burner method? I've been putting a nice smear on a bud, then vaping it. But to be honest it tastes like a bit solventy, and I an concerned about any ill side effects of vaping oil with residual solvents in it. I'm a pot rookie in anything other then joint rolling and bong hitting ( old school) any methods and directions would be appreciated.

Thanks guys

mikeybmw · Jun 21, 2015

a double boiler is the same method people use to melt chocolate although I'd advise against any open flames.... If u don't induce heat or take away atmospheric pressure u won't fully purge any left over alcohol. A. double boiler is cheaper than purging through decompression

matthend · Jun 22, 2015

So my empty capsules arrived early, and I have about 1.5g of reclaim in a slick stack. I want to make ten to twelve capsules, but I don't have any lecithin yet. Is it worth it with just coconut oil and reclaim, and I guess I would use as little coconut oil as I can get away with?

herbivore21 · Jun 22, 2015

matthend said:
@herbivore, I agree 100% if I were not making reclaim edibles with ethanol. In my situation, I figure the edibles are mind altering as they are and if a trace amount of everclear were to somehow makes it into the end result, no biggie.
That said, the one horse that lives forever (and can always use a beating) is completely and properly purging out solvents so to your

No worries brother, if you used ethanol and cooking it into food then you shouldn't have any real problems unless for some reason you have some gargantuan amount of residual ethanol (obviously very unlikely lol).

Still, I have heard of people making tinctures with ISO recently and I really wanted to make sure that the point was more generally made to be very careful with solvents and know which are safe to be used in which ways. The democratization of extract production has brought with it some really dangerous practices and we've got to look after each other and protect one another as much as possible from those kinds of things

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