Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

Greetings, yes another newbie to this vape forum. Just got a Crafty a few days ago, my first vape. I'm done with smoking and after trying my friends Firefly, a week ago, I see what I've been missing. I decided to buy a Crafty because of all the good reviews. I've quickly read through this thread, made it to about 50 pgs. I wish I found this forum before I purchased my Crafty.

I'm still on the fence about the Crafty, it doesn't seem to produce clouds with small quantity or work as effectively. It kinda does the job, but I get more medicated if I smoked the same quantity. I must be doing something wrong. If I pack it full I see more clouds but I only get 3 draws with clouds, and it's done. I bought this to conserve my meds not to use more. Also the mouthpiece gets real hot after 4 draws, so hot I can't put my lips around it, at the low factory setting. I haven't tried the boost, it might be too hot. The meds are high quality, well cured, ground with a grinder.

Despite the reservations, I do like the feeling it gives me, but I have to use more. I thought I'd use less. Any suggestions on what I'm doing wrong or helpful hints would be greatly appreciated.

vts said:

Greetings, yes another newbie to this vape forum. Just got a Crafty a few days ago, my first vape. I'm done with smoking and after trying my friends Firefly, a week ago, I see what I've been missing. I decided to buy a Crafty because of all the good reviews. I've quickly read through this thread, made it to about 50 pgs. I wish I found this forum before I purchased my Crafty.

I'm still on the fence about the Crafty, it doesn't seem to produce clouds with small quantity or work as effectively. It kinda does the job, but I get more medicated if I smoked the same quantity. I must be doing something wrong. If I pack it full I see more clouds but I only get 3 draws with clouds, and it's done. I bought this to conserve my meds not to use more. Also the mouthpiece gets real hot after 4 draws, so hot I can't put my lips around it, at the low factory setting. I haven't tried the boost, it might be too hot. The meds are high quality, well cured, ground with a grinder.

Despite the reservations, I do like the feeling it gives me, but I have to use more. I thought I'd use less. Any suggestions on what I'm doing wrong or helpful hints would be greatly appreciated.

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Try having a break from smoking for a couple of weeks and only use the Vape. By the end of the two weeks you should see some improvements.

vts said:

Also the mouthpiece gets real hot after 4 draws, so hot I can't put my lips around it, at the low factory setting.

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This should never be happening to you. I also think that its the main problem why you're not satisfied.

The only reason why the mouthpiece gets that hot is when you pull all the heat from the oven. Try resting for at least 5-8 seconds after hitting.

Also try slower puffs after getting the green sign. Notice that the light will change to red while, meaning the temp is dropping. You can still hit that slowly and temp will eventually rise, thats the part where I feel the vapor filling my lungs.

Ricchini said:

t-dub, while you are in here...... how is that Mighty treating you?

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Mighty fine . . .

Ricchini said:

What's your thoughts? dub?

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My thought is I like having both because I use them for different things. Mighty is great for traveling and staying in hotel rooms and when staying with family. Crafty is great for gong out to restaurants or down to the beach. They compliment each other nicely . . .

If I had to pick one over the other I would opt for Mighty.

I feel the same way @t-dub. I find myself using the mighty more often than my crafty. When I do reach for the crafty that thing seems tiny. I still remember thinking before I held the mighty in my hands how much of a giant beast it was going to be. Glad I was pleasently surprised.

Ricchini said:

t-dub, while you are in here...... how is that Mighty treating you?

Idk why I'm probably just being greedy, if my Crafty needs another repair I may just upgrade for the hell of it.

If it's only a 30$ upgrade fee, you are essentially getting double the battery capacity for 30$ extra. One battery like that probably costs 30$ alone.

You are also removing the necessity of using the app. The app is cool, I like it, it's always done what it's supposed to do. I'm not a "set it and forget it" type of Crafty user.

I keep the app on deck and shuffle through all the temp ranges, even if it costs a little battery.

There has been times however when I got screwed over because I left the unit on 410 and my phone died.

If you can get double the battery, and have all the controls in one electronic unit; it's more failsafe.


Here's the kicker though, stealth is super important to me. The Crafty is perfectly sized.

I have pretty big hands, so size isn't a gamechanger for me.

What's your thoughts? dub?

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Not t-dub but I feel the same as you about my crafty. I don't know if I want to update my firmware or upgrade to a mighty. I am pretty sure I need to break down my cooling unit and clean it up, see if that improves things. I agree with @t-dub as well, but don't have that much use for portables in general. Seeing as I have a zenhopper coming for stealth, I should upgrade to the mighty. But dat bluetooth...

Hey all. Been absent from the forums as I've been busy busy lately. But I'm back and thought I'd post a pic shamelessly exhibiting my SnB fanboyism. I have always been a little particular ( anal? ) about the way my things are taken care of and even look. I've posted earlier msgs and pics of my different storage setups I use for my crafty and related goodies. The pic below is of my pelican case I use to drag all my goodies around the house with me.

I've posted a similar pic before but the reason I'm posting this one, is the fan boy aspect I mentioned above. Over the last few months I have been keeping my eyes open for accessories that go with the SnB color scheme. The last thing I did was grab some orange electrical tape to accent some items. I like electrical tape because it's flexible ( easy to mold around curves. ) and has a glossy finish that looks natural with other plastic or glass pieces. I am posting this to give others ideas about their own setup. It's a little long, so if you don't have the patience, I understand.



The orange lidded containers I picked up at the dollar store. I use a green, orange, and purple hair-band to keep them distinguishable, as to which has which kind of meds.

Above the crafty unit is my extra power pack. It's actually the stock SnB white and blue unit. I know there is at least one black and orange unit out there, but I already owned this one so I did a little custom work on it.

Moving straight up the line in the pic, I gave the power adapter a SnB racing stripe with electrical tape,
Right next to it is a doob tube I store my SnB cleaning brush in. It has a electrical tape racing stripe as well.

Above that, it's hard to see, but the cord to the adapter is being held together by these nifty little rubber wrapped bread ties. ( orange of course. ) I got them at Home Depot and they cost a couple bucks for two. They are kind of cool. Just like a bread tie only more industrial and nice and soft thnx to the rubber coating.

Right next to that is my little bubbler I keep for on the go. You can see the mouth piece swings out over the last container with the purple band. It has had a couple of stripes added to the mouthpiece and looks pretty sharp while being used.

In the very back is my J-hook, with a Extreme-Q adapter I use for glass on glass water adaption. It has a orange Kek clip I found.

Below that, the honey-combed flat orange thing is a silicone hot pot holder I bought at Walmart. They are easy to cut to the shape you need and have multiple uses. There is one out of sight below each of the orange lidded containers to separate and protect the glass attachments I also keep in my case. ( adapters. 18mm to 14mm, male to female, etc. ) Thay also work as a on the fly hot item grabber. ( This has not been needed with the crafty, but I have had vapes in the past that occasionally required the juggling of hot bits, ie: the bullets for the Pinacle pro dlx, or the hurricane bowls of the Extreme Q. ) The particular square you can see next to the silicone hosing is protecting a LED light I sometimes use with my bubbler. ( when I'm feeling all Disco-ey. I'd say Rave-ish but I'm a 70's child. )

I'll be trying to find some orange silicone tubing for my whip next ( haven't even looked yet. )

Below that is my three loader tools and one SnB grinder, which unlike some others, I find gives me a perfect grind. I use the grinder placement to remind me with a quick glance, which loader tools are empty and which are still filled. Empty tools go behind the grinder so you can see in the pic I have one fully loaded tool and one that I am currently working on. The third is empty and behind my grinder. The silicon piece in the front is just a spacer to make everything fit nice and snug.

Finally to the far right is a cardboard tube that used to hold glow sticks. ( I swear I've never been to a rave. ) it's been wrapped in black and orange and is used to hold all my cleaning tools.

So there it is, my OCD fully on display. lol. I hope it gives others an idea or two even though I know the vast majority don't really care about this sort of thing.

vts said:

Greetings, yes another newbie to this vape forum. Just got a Crafty a few days ago, my first vape. I'm done with smoking and after trying my friends Firefly, a week ago, I see what I've been missing. I decided to buy a Crafty because of all the good reviews. I've quickly read through this thread, made it to about 50 pgs. I wish I found this forum before I purchased my Crafty.

I'm still on the fence about the Crafty, it doesn't seem to produce clouds with small quantity or work as effectively. It kinda does the job, but I get more medicated if I smoked the same quantity. I must be doing something wrong. If I pack it full I see more clouds but I only get 3 draws with clouds, and it's done. I bought this to conserve my meds not to use more. Also the mouthpiece gets real hot after 4 draws, so hot I can't put my lips around it, at the low factory setting. I haven't tried the boost, it might be too hot. The meds are high quality, well cured, ground with a grinder.

Despite the reservations, I do like the feeling it gives me, but I have to use more. I thought I'd use less. Any suggestions on what I'm doing wrong or helpful hints would be greatly appreciated.

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I dont have a Crafty, well at least not yet, but I am moving towards that direction. Though from my vaping experience, I can tell you a few things about what you find wrong about the Crafty.

First things first, vaping will never be like smoking and neither smoking will never be like vaping. When you smoke apart from the carbon dioxide being released, certain toxins are also released due to the combustion. Those make you higher yes, but its those same unhealthy things we are trying to avoid. We have a saying around here, FUCKCOMBUSTION, you dont need those toxins anyway.

Second, try not to pack it full. Sometimes when you pack full you generally tend to pack it tight and when you pack it tight it adds resistance to the airflow and dimishes the load alot quicker. Try smaller loads, with slower draws. In my experience slower draws is what makes for big clouds not larger loads. As was mentioned by an FC member.

Third, this unit might not support chain vaping, thats why your unit/mouth piece might be overheating. Take the suggestion given here by another member, take your hit, slow and relaxed. Then give it some time as @JayDay described. I usually give it 5 minutes in between, I know the Crafty has a minute auto shut off, so you might want to give it almost a minute. Let the heating chamber regain its temperature and let the mouthpiece cool off.

Ricchini said:

t-dub, while you are in here...... how is that Mighty treating you?

Idk why I'm probably just being greedy, if my Crafty needs another repair I may just upgrade for the hell of it.

If it's only a 30$ upgrade fee, you are essentially getting double the battery capacity for 30$ extra. One battery like that probably costs 30$ alone.

You are also removing the necessity of using the app. The app is cool, I like it, it's always done what it's supposed to do. I'm not a "set it and forget it" type of Crafty user.

I keep the app on deck and shuffle through all the temp ranges, even if it costs a little battery.

There has been times however when I got screwed over because I left the unit on 410 and my phone died.

If you can get double the battery, and have all the controls in one electronic unit; it's more failsafe.


Here's the kicker though, stealth is super important to me. The Crafty is perfectly sized.

I have pretty big hands, so size isn't a gamechanger for me.

What's your thoughts? dub?

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Being a newbie, I don't have lots of experience, but my first "real" vape was a crafty, one of the earlier versions that really had the battery heat up issues. I finally sent it in and upgraded, as it could not keep up with my usage. Def more stealth. I have good size hands, and I can keep my Mighty hidden while driving, and maybe in the right scenario outside (quick hits, put away), but it's as bit as my Note 4, but fatter - no matter, I still love the double life and way faster heat up time, as well as LED screen (vs app). The apps great, but it's more convenient in one spot, especially if you like to "play with the numbers", like I do. Either one is a great vape, and I bet the newer Craftys are better, but the Mighty is double.

My phone decided to upgrade to android 5.1, I believe that my application will not work anymore, right?

At a time ago I saw a forum User posted an application developed by himself here in the topic, mybe with this application i will be able to connect normally?

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BioSector said:

I ordered the fine screens recently from the U.S. Store without problem. I'll see if I can find the link I used.

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They are no longer listed on the site but here are the item numbers if anyone wants to try ordering them through email.

MIGHTY FINE SCREEN SET
Item# 03 11 MY

CRAFTY FINE SCREEN SET
Item# 03 11 CY

edit: They still have the fine screen set for Plenty listed but I don't think that's the same sized screen?

http://www.storz-bickel.com/shop_us/en/plenty-fine-screen-set.html

180 hours and not tired! Heat up time to 185°C is 2:15 minutes. I get three 10 minute sessions out of one charge.
Vape on!

vts said:

Greetings, yes another newbie to this vape forum. Just got a Crafty a few days ago, my first vape. I'm done with smoking and after trying my friends Firefly, a week ago, I see what I've been missing. I decided to buy a Crafty because of all the good reviews. I've quickly read through this thread, made it to about 50 pgs. I wish I found this forum before I purchased my Crafty.

I'm still on the fence about the Crafty, it doesn't seem to produce clouds with small quantity or work as effectively. It kinda does the job, but I get more medicated if I smoked the same quantity. I must be doing something wrong. If I pack it full I see more clouds but I only get 3 draws with clouds, and it's done. I bought this to conserve my meds not to use more. Also the mouthpiece gets real hot after 4 draws, so hot I can't put my lips around it, at the low factory setting. I haven't tried the boost, it might be too hot. The meds are high quality, well cured, ground with a grinder.

Despite the reservations, I do like the feeling it gives me, but I have to use more. I thought I'd use less. Any suggestions on what I'm doing wrong or helpful hints would be greatly appreciated.

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Your Crafty is 100% defective. I can reassure you that this is not how it's supposed to perform. I sent my Crafty in because it would overheat after 5-6 draws. Once it overheats, it gets clogged and no vapour gets produced. This is a sign of a defective unit and I would contact the store you purchased it from or Storz and Bickel directly.

P.S: I combusted daily for 10+ years and do not crave it one bit after I got my Crafty (now Mighty). The amount of vapour I get from this thing is ridiculous. Also, I noticed that when you're coming from smoking to vaping, it would be more ideal to vape at higher temperatures since it feels closer to smoking.

After seeing a few posts about crafty behaviour I thought I would add a few things about my crafty behaviour.

My mouthpiece has never got hot, not even close, barely warm even at highest temp.

I can pack full, half full, anything and get good results.

I can draw slow, fast and anything between and again get good results (maybe the first hit is a little whispy but that is expected IMO)

Even drawing as fast/hard as I can the temp only drops around 7°c and by the time I have fully exhaled it's back at temp and ready to keep going (fantastic heater, I would run out of puff before it ever does)

And I have fw v02.05 from back in the olden times

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Ive read of members killing full bowls in 2 min

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Guilty as charged not for everyone but sure is fun if you can do it, give it a try, you will either cough a lung up or get extremely wasted.


And just a side note to all new members that are trying to make the switch, at first lots of people find vaping can seem less effective than combustion (myself included) and doing both in my case lead to an even bigger than normal amount of usage, once I stopped combusting though, wow just wow I never got this high from combustion, I do still use more than when I combusted but this is just because I like it so much also my last tbreak was 14 year ago which won't help I could use less but don't want or need to anyway I won't go into too much detail but will post this thread that you might find useful

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/trying-to-switch-to-vaping.18239/
Good luck and FUCK COMBUSTION

2 weeks @ 20 hours in on the Crafty and Im getting the same results.

Full, half or just cover the oven load, all good. My favorite though is half load. Slow and fast dont matter. But I think the best technique is drawing slowly while making the temp rise slowly after it drops.

I only get the mouthpiece hot when I pull too hard for too long, dropping the ovens temp.


Actually I just realized that Ive been vaping for a month now. Yeah Im a newb.
Had the Gpro which was meh, but was a good transition from smoking since it gave me hot air that satisfies my throat like combusting.
Had the Pax 3 days after, had a hard time with the hitting technique it needed.
Then I had the Crafty at my 13th day of vaping, this was the time I was definitely exclusive with vaping when Im alone.

Thank you for the helpful comments and advice. Now that I've had a few more days to experiment, I still think there is something wrong with this crafty as mentioned by shaolinmilk. UnshavenFish, your mouthpiece never gets hot (I wish mine was like that), mine gets very hot even with light sipping, it seems to be overheating and getting slightly clogged, just as shaolinmilk describes. Just for the heck of it, I did try the set boost temp, after 3 light draws at regular temp, and it was crazy hot, no vape just unpleasant heat and taste, like a plastic taste.

Because of this, I tried a different technique, I filled about halfway, put in the pad, and sipped lightly at the regular temp (365), my 1st vape was good and visible, 2nd vape was good but not too visible, 3rd vape was getting a bit hot and nothing visible. So I turned the temp down to 330 and took a 4th draw and saw more visible vape, 5th draw still saw a visible vape, but the mouthpiece was very hot, 6th draw and still some visible vape, very light, but unpleasant taste. What I've been reading is that most people boost to get more vape, but my unit seems to be the opposite. I will say it did leave me well medicated despite the burnt taste. I think the heating unit or something is not calibrated correctly. I have no problems with app or battery life, they all work fine. Also wondering why some people get little vape off the 1st draw, and why I seem to get the most off the the 1st draw.

And yes I have contacted Storz and Bickel, I've called a few times, no one seems to answer any of the lines, and I have left messages. We'll see what happens. Just wondering if the Mighty has less problems because of bigger size. I really like this Crafty, and I think it would be perfect if I didn't have this overheating problem. Despite the problems, I do realize that the Crafty does medicate very well. And thank you UnshavenFish for the link to switching to vaping, very helpful.

vts said:

Thank you for the helpful comments and advice. Now that I've had a few more days to experiment, I still think there is something wrong with this crafty as mentioned by shaolinmilk. UnshavenFish, your mouthpiece never gets hot (I wish mine was like that), mine gets very hot even with light sipping, it seems to be overheating and getting slightly clogged, just as shaolinmilk describes. Just for the heck of it, I did try the set boost temp, after 3 light draws at regular temp, and it was crazy hot, no vape just unpleasant heat and taste, like a plastic taste.

Because of this, I tried a different technique, I filled about halfway, put in the pad, and sipped lightly at the regular temp (365), my 1st vape was good and visible, 2nd vape was good but not too visible, 3rd vape was getting a bit hot and nothing visible. So I turned the temp down to 330 and took a 4th draw and saw more visible vape, 5th draw still saw a visible vape, but the mouthpiece was very hot, 6th draw and still some visible vape, very light, but unpleasant taste. What I've been reading is that most people boost to get more vape, but my unit seems to be the opposite. I will say it did leave me well medicated despite the burnt taste. I think the heating unit or something is not calibrated correctly. I have no problems with app or battery life, they all work fine. Also wondering why some people get little vape off the 1st draw, and why I seem to get the most off the the 1st draw.

And yes I have contacted Storz and Bickel, I've called a few times, no one seems to answer any of the lines, and I have left messages. We'll see what happens. Just wondering if the Mighty has less problems because of bigger size. I really like this Crafty, and I think it would be perfect if I didn't have this overheating problem. Despite the problems, I do realize that the Crafty does medicate very well. And thank you UnshavenFish for the link to switching to vaping, very helpful.

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On contacting SnB, I've said this a couple times before but it gets burried too soon. When you call them and you get the options menu, dial "0" to talk to their receptionist. ( I think she is more than a receptionist. She seemed very knowledgable and I'm guessing wears more than one hat there. )

I have contacted them 3 or 4 times in the past and have always got to talk to a live person when I chose the 0 option. She had the ability to pull up my account and answered my questions. Even some of the technical ones.

Dial 0 if you want a live person people. I'm not saying you will always get someone. But I have always gotten through when doing this.

vts said:

Thank you for the helpful comments and advice. Now that I've had a few more days to experiment, I still think there is something wrong with this crafty as mentioned by shaolinmilk. UnshavenFish, your mouthpiece never gets hot (I wish mine was like that), mine gets very hot even with light sipping, it seems to be overheating and getting slightly clogged, just as shaolinmilk describes. Just for the heck of it, I did try the set boost temp, after 3 light draws at regular temp, and it was crazy hot, no vape just unpleasant heat and taste, like a plastic taste.

Because of this, I tried a different technique, I filled about halfway, put in the pad, and sipped lightly at the regular temp (365), my 1st vape was good and visible, 2nd vape was good but not too visible, 3rd vape was getting a bit hot and nothing visible. So I turned the temp down to 330 and took a 4th draw and saw more visible vape, 5th draw still saw a visible vape, but the mouthpiece was very hot, 6th draw and still some visible vape, very light, but unpleasant taste. What I've been reading is that most people boost to get more vape, but my unit seems to be the opposite. I will say it did leave me well medicated despite the burnt taste. I think the heating unit or something is not calibrated correctly. I have no problems with app or battery life, they all work fine. Also wondering why some people get little vape off the 1st draw, and why I seem to get the most off the the 1st draw.

And yes I have contacted Storz and Bickel, I've called a few times, no one seems to answer any of the lines, and I have left messages. We'll see what happens. Just wondering if the Mighty has less problems because of bigger size. I really like this Crafty, and I think it would be perfect if I didn't have this overheating problem. Despite the problems, I do realize that the Crafty does medicate very well. And thank you UnshavenFish for the link to switching to vaping, very helpful.

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S&B are taking two days to reply to emails at the moment. Back in January it was four days.

@vts
I'm not the most sensitive to heat (this is why I had to put a piece of silicone around the glass on my Lily as I kept melting my fingerprints away by grabbing it when hot ) so I did a few tests to make sure what I have stated was correct, and can confirm my MP does stay cool

Had a few friends over last night and tried everything I could to make it hot, slow draws, fast draws, back to back sessions and high temp and while the CU did get warm/hot the MP stayed cool, all three agreed on this and one of them can't use the small stems for my arizer air as they find the vapour and stem too hot for them (IMO I would class this as sensitive to heat)

Also my crafty is one of the most free flowing vapes I have (behind my SSV and Daisy) and has never felt restricted/clogged and I pack my bowls.

Also you probably already know but it's worth mentioning that vapour will has a different visual to smoke, and lighting conditions can play a part also along with strain, cure, moisture level (less than smoking) grind and draw speed (although IMO draw speed with the crafty doesn't play as big a part as it does with some other vapes)

I could be wrong but from your description it's does sound like something is not right, and the less vapour from higher temp thing has me puzzled can't explain that as it goes against all the known rules and my own experiences.

Hopefully the "dial 0" advise from @Weez65 helps you speed things up, good luck and let us know how you get on

Oh and just to give everyone a laugh, I thought my crafty had broke last night after the third back to back bowl it wouldn't turn on, but a friend pointed out I was pressing the stirring tool I tried to post all this last night but as you can tell I was pretty baked, got logged in but nothing happened after that

vts said:

Thank you for the helpful comments and advice. Now that I've had a few more days to experiment, I still think there is something wrong with this crafty as mentioned by shaolinmilk. UnshavenFish, your mouthpiece never gets hot (I wish mine was like that), mine gets very hot even with light sipping, it seems to be overheating and getting slightly clogged, just as shaolinmilk describes. Just for the heck of it, I did try the set boost temp, after 3 light draws at regular temp, and it was crazy hot, no vape just unpleasant heat and taste, like a plastic taste.

Because of this, I tried a different technique, I filled about halfway, put in the pad, and sipped lightly at the regular temp (365), my 1st vape was good and visible, 2nd vape was good but not too visible, 3rd vape was getting a bit hot and nothing visible. So I turned the temp down to 330 and took a 4th draw and saw more visible vape, 5th draw still saw a visible vape, but the mouthpiece was very hot, 6th draw and still some visible vape, very light, but unpleasant taste. What I've been reading is that most people boost to get more vape, but my unit seems to be the opposite. I will say it did leave me well medicated despite the burnt taste. I think the heating unit or something is not calibrated correctly. I have no problems with app or battery life, they all work fine. Also wondering why some people get little vape off the 1st draw, and why I seem to get the most off the the 1st draw.

And yes I have contacted Storz and Bickel, I've called a few times, no one seems to answer any of the lines, and I have left messages. We'll see what happens. Just wondering if the Mighty has less problems because of bigger size. I really like this Crafty, and I think it would be perfect if I didn't have this overheating problem. Despite the problems, I do realize that the Crafty does medicate very well. And thank you UnshavenFish for the link to switching to vaping, very helpful.

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I personally upgraded to the Mighty and I feel like this thing never gets too hot. Since the CU is bigger, I feel like the heat is more evenly distributed and you can go longer without cleaning it compared to the Crafty.

I was going to get a Crafty before I overdid my VAS and bought a Zion and a Vapolution. I've taken a vow to not buy anymore. I have way too many in spite of giving away ones I don't like. Anyway, Massdrop has the best price I've seen on a Crafty- or will when it gets to the lowest price.

Just got a email response from SnB (very fast response) and they said my Crafty seems to be normal from what I described. The mouthpiece will get hot from use, but if I wanted them to check it out I would have to mail the heating unit back to them. Since my Crafty is still fairly new maybe it needs a break in period. I'll try it out a bit more before deciding to send it back.

UnshavenFish you got lucky and received one that stays cool. That is funny that you were pressing the stirring tool to turn it on. Actually I'm guilty of doing that sober.

I did have a better session last night and this time I did get some vapor at higher temp, even though my lips were almost burnt. Maybe I should get some silicone sleeve for the mouthpiece. I am new to vaping so I'm still learning. I started with my half fill and pad on top, 1st draw very tasty and nice vapor, 2nd draw a little taste with some vapor, 3rd draw not much vapor. Then I tried raising the temp again to see if I would get some more vapor. I had bad luck before but despite the heat I boosted it and took a 4th strong draw and got some vapor but it was way too hot. My 5th draw I just sipped it a bit but still got vapor, my final 6th draw and still got vapor, but it was freaking hot and the taste was terrible. I got to say though, I was well medicated, it just creeps up on you. My meds were toasted a beautiful dark brown.

And after reading more on how to vape and applying those techniques I can see this actually saving my meds, so I admit I was wrong from what I said earlier. There is definitely a learning curve to vaping. When I first got this Crafty I filled it up to the top and didn't feel as medicated, but now I can't imagine filling it that much without being knocked out. I've come to the conclusion that I'll just do 3 draws and wait 5-10 mins., cause I'll definitely feel it, and see if I need more. This Crafty is very crafty. Although I would like to try the Mighty because of the bigger CU. But I do really like the size and portability of the Crafty.

The batterie on the new unit I receive 3 week ago, with firmware 2.07, give me easily 7 session, while my first Crafty gave me max 4 session before batterie Die!!
Same vaping technique, so a big improvement over my original unit!

ElPic said:

The batterie on the new unit I receive 3 week ago, with firmware 2.07, give me easily 7 session, while my first Crafty gave me max 4 session before batterie Die!!
Same vaping technique, so a big improvement over my original unit!

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Wow, maybe I want mine to die. I definitely max out at 4 sessions (not that that's a big deal for me but why not want the bestest?)

vts said:

Just got a email response from SnB (very fast response) and they said my Crafty seems to be normal from what I described. The mouthpiece will get hot from use, but if I wanted them to check it out I would have to mail the heating unit back to them. Since my Crafty is still fairly new maybe it needs a break in period. I'll try it out a bit more before deciding to send it back.

UnshavenFish you got lucky and received one that stays cool. That is funny that you were pressing the stirring tool to turn it on. Actually I'm guilty of doing that sober.

I did have a better session last night and this time I did get some vapor at higher temp, even though my lips were almost burnt. Maybe I should get some silicone sleeve for the mouthpiece. I am new to vaping so I'm still learning. I started with my half fill and pad on top, 1st draw very tasty and nice vapor, 2nd draw a little taste with some vapor, 3rd draw not much vapor. Then I tried raising the temp again to see if I would get some more vapor. I had bad luck before but despite the heat I boosted it and took a 4th strong draw and got some vapor but it was way too hot. My 5th draw I just sipped it a bit but still got vapor, my final 6th draw and still got vapor, but it was freaking hot and the taste was terrible. I got to say though, I was well medicated, it just creeps up on you. My meds were toasted a beautiful dark brown.

And after reading more on how to vape and applying those techniques I can see this actually saving my meds, so I admit I was wrong from what I said earlier. There is definitely a learning curve to vaping. When I first got this Crafty I filled it up to the top and didn't feel as medicated, but now I can't imagine filling it that much without being knocked out. I've come to the conclusion that I'll just do 3 draws and wait 5-10 mins., cause I'll definitely feel it, and see if I need more. This Crafty is very crafty. Although I would like to try the Mighty because of the bigger CU. But I do really like the size and portability of the Crafty.

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They also gave me a generic answer until I sent it to them directly. Your unit is NOT functioning the way it's intended. When I first got my Crafty, there was ZERO learning curve. You pack the bowl and literally toke away. The mouthpiece never got hot for me in the beginning, however with time, it started overheating way too often. If you are barely getting vapour at higher temps, that is a pretty good sign that something is wrong.