Underdog Log Vapes

darkrom · Jun 17, 2015

srama21 said:
So some of the descriptions may have sounded like the unit is running cool, but i've also made it clear that from what I can tell, the unit is not running cool. I am pretty sure that's not a possibility. I meantion weak hits everyday, just to be clear. The one consistent thing is that the hits are not satisfying. Combustion is not the goal here, it is undesireable in this case.

This is why I am so baffled by this unit. From what I can tell, it is not running cool, it actually gets very hot when I have it plugged in for over an hour. Initially, i assumed i needed to dry my bud out, but that did not have any noticeable difference.I have tried 3 different strains with this unit.

I figured I would just use the unit with my glass and not straight draw from it. The real frustration came when my glass arrived. The unit barely milks. After taking a zillion hits, it just seems to me that the loading of the stem and the actual size of the stem are the problem areas. First, to load the stem you need to put in a very small amount, if you put in too much, when inserting the stem into the heating unit, the heating unit condenses your bud into a small ball and it strangles your hit. If you do load the proper amount, in my opinion, it is not a sufficient amount to get a nice milky glass hit. For me at this point its very hit or miss.

Have only used the unit on one outlet.

I think you should post up a pic of the bud you are using, just for curiosity's sake. This is mysterious.

srama21 · Jun 17, 2015

darkrom said:
I think you should post up a pic of the bud you are using, just for curiosity's sake. This is mysterious.

Here are my strains:
Gorilla Glue #4

OG Headband

Snappo · Jun 17, 2015

srama21 said:
Here are my strains:
Gorilla Glue #4

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OG Headband

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Are these herbs (can't see the pics) spongy when pressed between fingers, or crumbly? Did you try the nugg (unbroken pinch from a bud), heat-soak, and puff-prime method I suggested?

srama21 · Jun 17, 2015

Snappo said:
Are these herbs (can't see the pics) spongy when pressed between fingers, or crumbly? Did you try the nugg (unbroken pinch from a bud), heat-soak, and puff-prime method I suggested?

Hit refresh, i think the pics should load now.

I did try your suggestion but as i took more hits the vapor did not get denser, quite the opposite in fact.

These specific nugs int he pictures are crumbly because i had them sitting out for about 48 hours this weekend. since then I open up my jars about 30 minutes during a session each day.

Snappo · Jun 17, 2015

srama21 said:
Hit refresh, i think the pics should load now.

I did try your suggestion but as i took more hits the vapor did not get denser, quite the opposite in fact.

These specific nugs int he pictures are crumbly because i had them sitting out for about 48 hours this weekend. since then I open up my jars about 30 minutes during a session each day.

Ok ...is the wood warm or hot to the touch? Are you drawing light and slow? Is the plug into the vape pressed in all the way? No more combustion? Can you post a pic of a packed stem?

srama21 · Jun 17, 2015

Snappo said:
Ok ...is the wood warm or hot to the touch? Are you drawing light and slow? Is the plug into the vape pressed in all the way? No more combustion? Can you post a pic of a packed stem?

hot to the touch initially, but after taking a hit or two, warm. Yes, I am drawing light and slowly. The plug is fully into the vape. No more combustion

I think the combustion problem was because my third strain (which i have no more of) was especially dry.

Snappo · Jun 17, 2015

srama21 said:
hot to the touch initially, but after taking a hit or two, warm. Yes, I am drawing light and slowly. The plug is fully into the vape. No more combustion

I think the combustion problem was because my third strain (which i have no more of) was especially dry.

I am thinking that the wood should not be discernabally cooler after only a hit or two. Never noticed that before.

virtualpurple · Jun 18, 2015

I've not experienced that with my UD either. I dunno what that point to, but I hope we are able to help find a solution.

Walter Bishop · Jun 18, 2015

srama21 said:
Here are my strains:
Gorilla Glue #4

OG Headband

Clearly you're going to have to send that material to me for further testing.

All kidding aside, maybe it's time to take Underdog up on his offer and send the unit in to UD central for a look. Perhaps there is something wonky going on with the unit.

darkrom · Jun 18, 2015

Buds check out lol.

Gotta wonder if the voltage from your wall is not going wonky. There isn't much to these vapes. They get hot, or worst case they don't. Yours seems to be too hot then rapidly getting cold. Free solution, try plugging it in at a friends house for testing. More accurate, test the voltage coming out of the wall. I'll let someone else suggest the cheapest/best way to get that done.

wilcros · Jun 18, 2015

darkrom said:
More accurate, test the voltage coming out of the wall. I'll let someone else suggest the cheapest/best way to get that done.

Be careful with a multimeter, but the power outta be regulated by the wall wart so if it's heating up then that may not tell you much besides that your power supply isn't the problem.

Also, just sent in for a purpleheart peppermill! Now to decide on stems...

underdog · Jun 18, 2015

I'm fairly sure we can rule out voltage issues, since it's getting hot enough to blacken the herb and/or combust there's clearly no lack of heat.

Underdogette is on the case and trying some more comprehensive troubleshooting steps. :science:

Snappo · Jun 18, 2015

underdog said:
I'm fairly sure we can rule out voltage issues, since it's getting hot enough to blacken the herb and/or combust there's clearly no lack of heat.

Underdogette is on the case and trying some more comprehensive troubleshooting steps.

Hmmm ...I'm wondering if there mightn't be an intermittent voltage issue (wire or filament irregularity?) since both hot and cold have been experienced???

underdog · Jun 18, 2015

Snappo said:
Hmmm ...I'm wondering if there mightn't be an intermittent voltage issue (wire or filament irregularity?) since both hot and cold have been experienced???

No idea, I'm pretty baffled at this point TBO. :shrug:

BrotherJoseph · Jun 18, 2015

Beach day with one of the pups!

Walter Bishop · Jun 19, 2015

BrotherJoseph said:
Beach day with one of the pups!

Great pic! You running your vvps off a battery?

edit: never mind I see the batteries in the vvps, now. Sweet set up!

ScrivGnar · Jun 19, 2015

I may have left my underdog on over the weekend and didn't realize it was reading 13.3v, do you think there's any damage? It seems to be running fine, maybe heat retention is a bit less? I could just be paranoid

Melting Pot · Jun 19, 2015

Zac2354 said:
I may have left my underdog on over the weekend and didn't realize it was reading 13.3v, do you think there's any damage? It seems to be running fine, maybe heat retention is a bit less? I could just be paranoid

Mine has been on 12.3 for three months. I think you should be good.Imo 24/7

underdog · Jun 19, 2015

Zac2354 said:
I may have left my underdog on over the weekend and didn't realize it was reading 13.3v, do you think there's any damage? It seems to be running fine, maybe heat retention is a bit less? I could just be paranoid

Is this a current generation Dog? If not what vintage is it?

I wouldn't suggest doing that on a regular basis but it shouldn't hurt anything or cause any issues so no great worries. :cool:

Melting Pot · Jun 19, 2015

My Pup always pulling double duty.
If we're not playing (vapin) she's hard at work making the house smell lovely (aromatherapy)
So 24/7 at our house.
And one thing I know for sure if ever a problem @underdog & @underdogette will take care of me with stellar CS...

ScrivGnar · Jun 19, 2015

underdog said:
Is this a current generation Dog? If not what vintage is it?

I wouldn't suggest doing that on a regular basis but it shouldn't hurt anything or cause any issues so no great worries.

I'm not quite sure, its almost a year old, using nylon sstems

WoodyWeedPecker · Jun 19, 2015

BrotherJoseph said:
Beach day with one of the pups!

Great Pic!! Where can you get this battery powered VVPS?

NickDlow · Jun 19, 2015

Good 'ol @VoltageKeeper makes these ones specifically.check his thread out HERE. There are less expensive alternates out there but VK has the best!

underdog · Jun 19, 2015

Zac2354 said:
I'm not quite sure, its almost a year old, using nylon sstems

Ok that's more or less the latest revision and the most able to take excess heat without issue so I'm sure you're good.. :tup:

dimildarko · Jun 19, 2015

Melting Pot said:
My Pup always pulling double duty.
If we're not playing (vapin) she's hard at work making the house smell lovely (aromatherapy)
So 24/7 at our house.
And one thing I know for sure if ever a problem @underdog & @underdogette will take care of me with stellar CS...

What types of oils have you enjoyed in the aromacups? I plan to toss an aromacup on the UD when I'm not using it and would love some good oil ideas. I've picked up some extra beeswax already because I was told that will help the contents solidify and not spill when they are not being heated.

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