Discontinued The Okin by D.M. Pipes

cawshook

cawshook

Solod out.
Can someone use shisha tobacco with this? Also can someone buy an extra stem one for weed and the other for shisha tobacco? Or would it cost almost the same as a new Okin? Not that I'm complaining about prices, I think they're reasonable.
 
Dan Morrison

Dan Morrison

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
I would not use hookah tobacco in any vaporizer, other than a hookah itself. The sticky mass will not let air pass through it very well, and the tobacco is usually cut into large pieces. You are better off using 'aromatic' tobacco blends that have been treated with natural flavoring. These tobaccos will taste very similar to how a hookah vapor tastes.
 
cawshook

cawshook

Solod out.
Dan Morrison said:
I would not use hookah tobacco in any vaporizer, other than a hookah itself. The sticky mass will not let air pass through it very well, and the tobacco is usually cut into large pieces. You are better off using 'aromatic' tobacco blends that have been treated with natural flavoring. These tobaccos will taste very similar to how a hookah vapor tastes.
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It works great in my other vaporizers. The trick is to pack it loose and mixing some weed there as well helps a lot (I usually go with a 1:1 ratio). the reason I use shisha tobacco over dry tobacco is because it produces more vapor and the hits dont feel dry at all.

Smokum, it shouldn't be much of an issue because when your done with the tobacco it should be mostly dry. The rest can be cleaned off.
 
Dan Morrison

Dan Morrison

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
@cawshook , It sounds like you're familliar with a different kind of shisha than I am used to. I remember it, from years ago, as being a really sticky bulky mass. It's possible that my memory is playing tricks on me..

Just use your own judgment, should be fine!

Here's some boxes!

From left to right. Linseed/beeswax + unpainted, Painted solid + uncoated, paint wash + linseed/wax + sanded smooth, thicker paint wash + linseed/wax + sanded smooth.

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cawshook

cawshook

Solod out.
Dan Morrison said:
@cawshook , It sounds like you're familliar with a different kind of shisha than I am used to. I remember it, from years ago, as being a really sticky bulky mass. It's possible that my memory is playing tricks on me..

Just use your own judgment, should be fine!

Here's some boxes!

From left to right. Linseed/beeswax + unpainted, Painted solid + uncoated, paint wash + linseed/wax + sanded smooth, thicker paint wash + linseed/wax + sanded smooth.

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Can't wait to get my hands on it and try it myself. I see no reason why it wont work. Either way I'm getting this vape, and I'm excited about it. I also sometimes drop a couple of drops of DIY ejuice in my herb, so that's worst case scenario. I just always liked the nicotine THC combo.
I like all those boxes, great choice of color, but I think unpainted is best, especially if it means getting my Okin ASAP :evil:
 
Dan Morrison

Dan Morrison

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
@cawshook , An aromatic blend pipe tobacco is probably very similar to the shisha you are referring to. I use aromatics in the Okin with great success, in fact I rarely have a session without it, almost never.

Here is a quote from PipePedia about aromatics,

There are two things of interest here, namely "casing" and "top flavouring." They are two distinctly different approaches to altering a blend's flavor. Some tobaccos employ both.

Casing requires that the tobacco be sprayed with or soaked in a "sauce" that may contain sugar, molasses, liquorice, alcohols like rum or whiskey, and various flavourings, natural or otherwise, depending on the manufacturer. Once the tobacco "drinks" the sauce, it's conditioned in large cylinders that dry it back to the desired moisture level, generally between 12% (on the dry side) and 22% (very moist). Optimal moisture for smoking depends on the smoker, but it's generally in the 13-16% range. The aromas and flavours imparted by casing will remain in the tobacco pretty tenaciously, and will affect the smoke throughout the bowl.

Top-flavouring is added by spraying the finished blend with scents and flavourings. This is a much lighter application, and doesn't alter the moisture content of the leaf dramatically. Sometimes called "top-notes," this can be quite ephemeral. Because of the volatile nature of many of the commonly used components, a tobacco left to "air out" may lose a lot of the perfume that's applied this way.

Depending on the casing used, tobaccos can become very sticky. Some producers use humectants to maintain a specific moisture level in the final product. You'll hear people talk about PG, or propylene glycol, the most commonly used humectant these days. It's generally spoken of in rather disparaging terms, thought it's not the PG that deserves the condemnation, but the blending houses who use it with reckless abandon. If the tobacco won't dry out, PG is likely the culprit. In small quantities, it does its job well. In large quantities, it produces a sticky, wet smoking, pipe clogging weed that should never see the inside of a pipe.
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Dafni

Well-Known Member
Dafni said:
Awesome news Dan.

Is there still a way to get on your list? Or is the list closed already??
I'd love to get on there! And I can't wait to make my own bamboo coals too!! Such a great idea and that craftsmanship you put in them makes me drool. I cannot wait to get my hands on one!

cheers
Daf
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Sorry to bring this up again, and sorry if I missed the answer to that question, but I would really like to know if this list is still open and if yes how to get on there.

Thanks a ton

Daf
 
°k

°k

The sound of vapor
That's one original draft... while I understand why a manufacturer would go for seasoned users, I think new ones with not that much experience could be beneficial as well, after all a lot of new users are switching to vaping and without the knowledge the veterans have they would certainly have a different experience. Also it actually puzzles me that the same persons can be testers for several vapes at the same time, isn't there any conflict in doing that?

Edit: that's still a safe selection of testers though and no i don't necessarily want to be part of the testing process.
Maybe I should shut up at times rather than speaking my critical mind.
 
Dan Morrison

Dan Morrison

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
°k said:
That's one original draft... while I understand why a manufacturer would go for seasoned users, I think new ones with not that much experience could be beneficial as well, after all a lot of new users are switching to vaping and without the knowledge the veterans have they would certainly have a different experience. Also it actually puzzles me that the same persons can be testers for several vapes at the same time, isn't there any conflict in doing that?

Edit: that's still a safe selection of testers though and no i don't necessarily want to be part of the testing process.
Maybe I should shut up at times rather than speaking my critical mind.
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You've got a good point there. But for me, those four Okins represent a lot of hard work. I was sad to see them go, after spending so much time with each of them in the shop, as weird as that sounds...

I had to be selective with who I would entrust them to.

On the business side of things, it makes sense to send out testers to people who have an established, and trusted, voice within that given marketplace...

But more than that, I needed to know how the charcoal heat source compares to an electronic one, this is what I am most interested in. So, I just had to go with people with the most over-all experience. This is a learning experience for me as well!

And no doubt that newcomers to the vaporizer path will have different and equally valuable opinions about the Okin experience, but those opinions will have to come later.
 
pakalolo

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
Dan Morrison said:
Just a little update.

The four testers have been sent to Pakalolo, BuzzDanklin, Stu, and Stickstones.

I've encouraged everyone to share their experiences with the Okin here.

Super excited for what's to come!
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My photography is not quite up to Dan's level, but this is what Canada Post left in my mailbox a couple of hours ago:

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Derrrpp

For the world is hollow and I have touched the sky
Today is a good day for the Okin thread! So excited to hear what your thoughts are on this one, @pakalolo. Also looking forward to hearing from Buzz, Stu, and Sticks when they receive theirs. I know you guys will put the Okin through its paces!

Vape on! :science: (in the name of science...)
 
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