Traaaaan

Well-Known Member
Hi all, been vaping for 5 years+ now...my previous vapes have all been portable....first time using desktop with E-Nanao + D020-D since last week. Quite impressive so far, couple of questions as I come upto speed.

1. The ABV looks close to black and a little uneven, I run mine at 6.5-7.0. I use the fixed screen all glass gong so cannot increase distance between herb and heater. Is this normal, feel like I may be combusting..any tips?

2. After a few uses, seems like having a carb would be easier to use with the water tool. Where can i buy a gong or better still a wong with carb for the E-Nano
Oregon Glass has carb adapter. He can also pretty much add a carb into anything else he makes.

If you combustion you'll know it immediately by taste alone.

Try micro loads and definitely try using a screen so you can do microloads. Some folks like to use small nuggets for the first hit and then crumble it and stir for a second.
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Hello everyone, I have been gone for a moment, been busy but luckily my e nano has been keeping me company. I have a few questions, maybe someone would be so kind to answer or give their opinion. I would greatly appreciate it.

1) Is there any way to connect the e nano to the charging ports in my vehicle? Does it heat up the same or does it take longer?

2) I been having a dilemma lately, if I use my e nano at 6.5 with the standard distance I feel as if I am doing too much work to draw vapor using my d020 water tool. But if I up it to 7 then I get effortless vape but it darkens the bud pretty quick, like almost black. I have messed with the draw speed and distance to no avail. I dont want to pull until I am out of breath to get vapor, neither do I want to roast it, any more recommendations?

3) This one might be my most important question, Are there any hydrotubes that I can use for the e nano, or can anyone recommend a set up? I am looking for something similar to this, that I saw attached to the Arizer Air. Would I have to have it custom built? What I am really looking for is a bubbler type stem/pipe similar to this, I saw a video of a guy using it on this forum but I cant remember where. If not these hydrotubes look interesting.

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1. You'll need a DC>AC inverter for use in the car unless your car already has an AC outlet (think there are a few SUVs out there with this feature). This one from Amazon has been working well for me. Takes a little longer to heat up. Haven't really clocked how fast it will heat if in a hurry, but 6-7 minutes on 10 then down to 7 or so (higher setting than if on true AC) and let it settle to that temp for 2 minutes. Works like a champ, but I have to adjust heat setting a tad for car running or not. I always unplug inverter when starting or shutting off car. Don't know if this would be a problem, but would rather not find out the hard way.

2. Make sure your screen is clean! Could be a couple other things too, but dirty screen will definitely create this issue. It may look pretty clean but still be restricted. Keep in mind that when it is dirty, the crud is on every strand of the screen, so every one of those little square spaces is smaller and restricting airflow.

Draw speed has some effect, but think less on nano than many vapes because of steady constant heat. You still get the effect of time of heat on material, but no need to slow down so heat can keep up.

When you adjust distance, compensate for that with heat setting if you haven't. Closer use lower heat, further use higher. I'd suggest starting here Caligula 2 Hit Extraction and tweaking to your liking. I use a little less than he does in vid and usually get 3 out out of it. Do 2, stir, finish. Using less material will need less pull on draw, also.

Less water in your bubbler will also lower drag. On most of my pieces I have water just at top of perc. With the D020 series (and any center post type simple percs) you don't even have to have water to top of perc. Usually 1/2 to 2/3 up the side of perc is sufficient for it to barely fire properly. When you draw the water from inside the perc gets pulled outside and covers all slits. Just be sure air is not slipping past water on draw. This is also good to do with warm water if having issues with sinuses/allergies/throat. IME less water also gives a little more flavor.

In short, clean screen and LESS IS MORE!!!

Also, dry and ground material seems to work best for me. Heatsoak can definitely help, too.

3. I'm not a big fan of those mini hydrotubes, but is easy to do. Would think larger hydrotubes would work just as well. Just make sure your GonG adapter is right size and you don't have material falling down to heat port or inside nano. Looks like the ones you have pictured are 14mm. You can tamp your load down tight (leads to harder draw, more chance for uneven roasting and have to stir more), or sandwich load between two screens. Make sure you don't tip or shake too much. Water in nano is not good!

No need to order custom. First pic looks like standard PNWT (Pinnacle Water Tool). Original from manufacturer is here, but available many places (some cheaper I think) or can get a real cheap knock off from China.

Think the other thing you are asking about here is a j-hook or similar. Do a search for it on this thread for probably at least 25 posts on using one. A very simple and good way to learn more about hydrotube and car use, too. THE SEARCH FUNCTION IS YOUR BEST FRIEND ON FC!!!
 

GetLeft

Well-Known Member
Hey all. About to order an enano. If anyone's on here now and can tell me which GonG I need to hook up an enano to a D020-D bubbler I'd really appreciate it. I've done some searching and it looks to me like I'll be good to go with the Epicvape 18mm GonG, which I'll order along with the nano unless I hear otherwise.

Thanks!
 

FLelder ent

Well-Known Member
Hey all. About to order an enano. If anyone's on here now and can tell me which GonG I need to hook up an enano to a D020-D bubbler I'd really appreciate it. I've done some searching and it looks to me like I'll be good to go with the Epicvape 18mm GonG, which I'll order along with the nano unless I hear otherwise.

Thanks!

Your good to go with the Epicvape 18mm GonG, you just have to decide if you want fixed or adjustable
 

Chezgreendream

First the flavor, then the buZzz settles in....
@421 & @flotntoke, thanks guyS. 421 for mentioning the heatsoak, I went home and heatsoaked the gong for 30 seconds before drawing, I also slowed down the draw a bit, I got instant vapor!! and still had plenty breath left. When I took out the herb it was vaped very evenly.

Flotntoke, thanks for the detailed answer. Definately helped out. By the way I have used the search function and I did not get the answer I was looking for, thats why I decided to ask directly. Though I am not looking for a j hook specifically, I know what a jhook is. The piece that I am looking for looks like a straight stem glass pipe, about 5" long. what was different about this one is that it is a bubbler. I have been searching for it all over here but cant find it. The video I found it once here and its about a man that looks like hes in his garage or a shop and he takes a seat, takes the bubbler pipe and puts the e nano over it. Hes having a coughing fit afterwards and someone advises him that he should stop smoking cigarettes, as there is a box of cigarrettes in plain view throughout the video. I know its not much of a description but hopefully someone here knows the video I am talking about.

Also, I decided to purchase a gong with a glass screen, because I got tired of resetting the adjustable screen all the time. To me its annoying. I read that since the holes are bigger that you cannot finely grind, I also read that the distance between the glass screen to the heating element is farther away, causing one to use either more material to compensate, raise the heat or attach a basket screen to it. Can someone verify this please?

has anyone had any success with a gravity bong and the e nano? I would love to hear how you set it up. im still trying to make sense of it, I mean it looks like it can work, just not sure how.

Also, last question for today, I promise.....I think. I mostly use my e nano in the bathroom, because well its private! But sometimes I am in a hurry and someone has showered before hand. Its pretty hot and muggy here now. So when I go into the bathroom right after the last person has showered, you can still feel some moisture in the air, though there is no running water. considering I am trying to hurry out, I plug the unit and vape as soon as I can do so. So my question is; will heating up and using the unit when there is still sometype of moisture in the air have a negative effect on the unit? Ive tried to open the door and window fully to air it out, but due to my limited time I have to do it as fast as I can.
 
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Bravesst

Full Steam Ahead
Manufacturer
This is one of the most talked about vape here. I'm very intrigued by the "log" concept, but have been a long time smoker, mostly rolling. I have no glass, water, experience much, nor does it seem like an enjoyable ritual to me. I love S&B products because of the ease of use, taste, purity. Do the log vapes win in any of those departments as compared to a Might or Plenty? Is the taste superior. Is there ease of use (relatively). Efficiency? - you hear legendary things while my Plenty rips through material. I want to branch out, not waste money on vapes I won't use. Bud, the vape critic, doesn't seem to even mention logs, and I've followed his advice on my S&B purchases and am quite happy.

eNano Reasons yes? Reasons no?
 

Chezgreendream

First the flavor, then the buZzz settles in....
This is one of the most talked about vape here. I'm very intrigued by the "log" concept, but have been a long time smoker, mostly rolling. I have no glass, water, experience much, nor does it seem like an enjoyable ritual to me. I love S&B products because of the ease of use, taste, purity. Do the log vapes win in any of those departments as compared to a Might or Plenty? Is the taste superior. Is there ease of use (relatively). Efficiency? - you hear legendary things while my Plenty rips through material. I want to branch out, not waste money on vapes I won't use. Bud, the vape critic, doesn't seem to even mention logs, and I've followed his advice on my S&B purchases and am quite happy.

eNano Reasons yes? Reasons no?

I actually like the vapecritics reviews, they are very detailed and he points out the pros and cons of each vape. However, I was dissapointed when I looked through his reviews( he does review alot of vapes) and he had not reviewed my beloved e nano. I actually sent him a message this morning asking him why he had not done one with the e nano.

Taking a quick look, I saw that you own a Plenty and a Mighty. I have never vaped from them, but I heard those are two heavy weight contenders in this industry. I am actually in the market for a Crafty myself, thanks to Buds review. Though I wouldnt be surprised if the e nano out preforms the said units, I know it wouldnt lag behind, or it can possibly just stand in a class of its own.

Now with that said, I have experience with only 3 vapes, the vaporbrothers box vape, the Arizer extreme Q and now with the e nano. The e nano blows the other two out of the water. It is a simple unit capable of producing big tasty clouds. The price is not bad either, plus you get a 10% discount using FCLOVE and a lifetime warranty. For me it is very efficient as far as energy use and the use of flowers. I attach it to a water piece just because my lungs and throat are on the sensitive side, but I hear many happy customers stating that hitting it dry is even more tastier and enjoyable. I have had the unit for some months, but havent hit it dry, I think I might one of these days. Though if you want to hook it up to a water piece thats pretty easy too, just make sure you get a 14mm or 18mm gong or adapter.

The unit is about the size of a Coca cola can, so you dont need much space to put it down on. The wood is pretty nice, I didnt actually know that I was so fascinated with wood and different types until I got the e nano. Mine is one of the basic models, but in the future I see myself pulling the trigger on a nicer much more exotic one, just because of the wood. I absolutely love my e nano, in case you havent noticed.
 
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Delta3DStudios

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
This is one of the most talked about vape here. I'm very intrigued by the "log" concept, but have been a long time smoker, mostly rolling. I have no glass, water, experience much, nor does it seem like an enjoyable ritual to me. I love S&B products because of the ease of use, taste, purity. Do the log vapes win in any of those departments as compared to a Might or Plenty? Is the taste superior. Is there ease of use (relatively). Efficiency? - you hear legendary things while my Plenty rips through material. I want to branch out, not waste money on vapes I won't use. Bud, the vape critic, doesn't seem to even mention logs, and I've followed his advice on my S&B purchases and am quite happy.

eNano Reasons yes? Reasons no?

A log vaporizer uses the wood to act as a "heat insulator" of sorts. They are very slow to heat up and warm down (slowest of any vaporizer I've seen). But once they get fully preheated (30 minutes), they're a fucking tank - you can't overpower the heater on this vape.

That said, Log vaporizers are a very "analog" experience. There are no fancy temperature sensors to ensure a consistent temperature. Moreover the bowl itself plays a big effect on the experience. Overloading the Nano can produce a more "roasted" unwanted flavor. Even screen depth plays a part in what temperature you vape at.

It will take practice to make the most out of any log vaporizer, it's not simply "plug and play" like the Crafty or the Mighty.

Efficiency wise, it's a winner. My average load size was 0.1g in the Nano.

Just for your reference, size wise it's about the size of a small RedBull can (smaller than you expect actually)

Do I think you should buy a Nano? Don't know.

Do I regret buying mine? Nope! Loved my walnut nano so much I ordered some exotic Afzelia Burl wood from @Snappo and ordered a second custom Nano :D
 

Chezgreendream

First the flavor, then the buZzz settles in....
A log vaporizer uses the wood to act as a "heat insulator" of sorts. They are very slow to heat up and warm down (slowest of any vaporizer I've seen). But once they get fully preheated (30 minutes), they're a fucking tank - you can't overpower the heater on this vape.

Well said my friend. I actually forgot to mention that point, yes the wait time is annoying at times, but well worth the wait. You can do what some do here and just leave it on all the time or do what I do and plug it in, set the dial, set the timer on my phone and forget while I take care of other things in the house, then when shes ready, I act surprised and let her know how excited I am to play. One can have a speed up warm time by putting it on the highest setting for 2-4 minutes then bumping it down to the desired number, but nothing beats the potency delivered when the unit is warmed up for about 30 minutes, you can tell when you grab it in the hand and the wood is plenty warm. At that point clouds are just waiting to soar out of your material. The unit itself requires very little clean up. Ive cleaned my water piece and adapter but not needed to clean the actual unit once.
 
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Bravesst

Full Steam Ahead
Manufacturer
Thanks guys, keep the review coming. Sounds like, if I'm will and able to put in bit of effort and patience, I'll be rewarded. It's not about the price tag!

Where's the best place to buy this (on epicvape?) Do local shops ever stock this? I'm in NYC (actually on LI right outside city).

Again, thank you all.

One last question. will this look cool sitting on my end table? Of course I'll put it away when my law enforcement friends are around :) .

PS: Just contacted epic. Their stock seems way down, and I'm wondering of now is the right time to pull the trigger on this guy.
 
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Walter Bishop

Well-Known Member
Epicvape is definitely the best place to purchase in my humble opinion.

If time is not an issue, have a custom one built for yourself with your choice of wood from @Snappo.

So many beautiful hard woods out there. You can absolutely have something built that looks good enough to leave out on an end table.

Especially if you grab an aroma therapy cup when they are back in stock. Then you have a real reason to leave it out all the time.
 

Eschient

Giga-Dweebess
Efficiency wise, it's a winner. My average load size was 0.1g in the Nano.

Just for your reference, size wise it's about the size of a small RedBull can (smaller than you expect actually)

@Bravesst Obilgatory comparison pic for size if you ahven't read back through the thread yet -

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/e-nano-from-epicvape.7844/page-497#post-801297

My load size is about the same. I started vaping at Thanksgiving. I'm an all-day vaper, my husband is a nightly vaper and in the 6 months we've had the E-nano, we only managed to fill a small mason jar 2/3 of the way with ABV. Coming from combustion, I'm using about 1/3rd of what I used to go through. And as I said in your other thread, the ABV is useful, too. Sometimes I still have a hard time believing how little I'm using to get the effects I need.

People talk about ritual a lot - *shrug* I get plenty of that feeling rolling the glass between my fingers, loading the stem, touching the wood :o I'm a tactile person, all the different textures and scents to play with are my ritual. Plus there's the added bonus of rolling that warm Enano over my sore muscles between draws...:brow:

I've said before in this thread, I've got a serious affair going with the E-nano. :love:

Bummer, I missed page 500!
 

Enchantre

Oil Painter
Thanks guys, keep the review coming. Sounds like, if I'm will and able to put in bit of effort and patience, I'll be rewarded. It's not about the price tag!

Where's the best place to buy this (on epicvape?) Do local shops ever stock this? I'm in NYC (actually on LI right outside city).

Again, thank you all.

One last question. will this look cool sitting on my end table? Of course I'll put it away when my law enforcement friends are around :) .

PS: Just contacted epic. Their stock seems way down, and I'm wondering of now is the right time to pull the trigger on this guy.
The very bestest part of the ENano is you can leave it always on. 24/7. So, it is immediate. Right there. No waiting at all. Once it is up to temp, you are forevermore good to go.

It hides in plain sight excellently.
 

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
The very bestest part of the ENano is you can leave it always on. 24/7. So, it is immediate. Right there. No waiting at all. Once it is up to temp, you are forevermore good to go.

It hides in plain sight excellently.
In about 90% of the head shops I've visited the attendants admitted to never having seen or heard of log vapes. This indicates to me that we are still a long way from mainstream, and our conventional house guests would have no idea what they were looking at when displayed proudly on our shelves or tables.
 

Traaaaan

Well-Known Member
I like that the nano is not a session vape.

Many folks leave it on all day. I don't when not home for extended periods of time.

I have a routine where i wake up, turn the vape on, shower and iron my clothes for the day. By the time im done the nano is up to heat and i can rip a couple little bowls and be on my way.

Its great on the weekends as i can sit and chill and leave it on all day.
 

max

Out to lunch
In about 90% of the head shops I've visited the attendants admitted to never having seen or heard of log vapes.
One reason for that is that they're hand made and limited production. You're just not gonna see the kind of production and distribution for this type of vape that leads to resellers. There would also be a perception with most head shop buyers that anything mass produced with fancy packaging is higher quality. And unless the head shop clerk reads FC, he/she certainly won't know the term 'log vape'. ;)
 

ctxgooner

gooner
One reason for that is that they're hand made and limited production. You're just not gonna see the kind of production and distribution for this type of vape that leads to resellers. There would also be a perception with most head shop buyers that anything mass produced with fancy packaging is higher quality. And unless the head shop clerk reads FC, he/she certainly won't know the term 'log vape'. ;)
I showed the guy at my lhs my pic of my nano and ud on top of a claisen and it blew his frickin mind :rofl:
 

Delta3DStudios

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
One reason for that is that they're hand made and limited production. You're just not gonna see the kind of production and distribution for this type of vape that leads to resellers. There would also be a perception with most head shop buyers that anything mass produced with fancy packaging is higher quality. And unless the head shop clerk reads FC, he/she certainly won't know the term 'log vape'. ;)

Just to be clear, as far as I remember, there *is* one LHS in Philadelphia that stocks the Nano. "Holy Smokes" was the name of the shop if memory serves me

But that is/was the only store in the world outside of EpicVape carrying the Nano
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
@421 & @flotntoke, thanks guyS. 421 for mentioning the heatsoak, I went home and heatsoaked the gong for 30 seconds before drawing, I also slowed down the draw a bit, I got instant vapor!! and still had plenty breath left. When I took out the herb it was vaped very evenly.

Flotntoke, thanks for the detailed answer. Definately helped out. By the way I have used the search function and I did not get the answer I was looking for, thats why I decided to ask directly. Though I am not looking for a j hook specifically, I know what a jhook is. The piece that I am looking for looks like a straight stem glass pipe, about 5" long. what was different about this one is that it is a bubbler. I have been searching for it all over here but cant find it. The video I found it once here and its about a man that looks like hes in his garage or a shop and he takes a seat, takes the bubbler pipe and puts the e nano over it. Hes having a coughing fit afterwards and someone advises him that he should stop smoking cigarettes, as there is a box of cigarrettes in plain view throughout the video. I know its not much of a description but hopefully someone here knows the video I am talking about.

Also, I decided to purchase a gong with a glass screen, because I got tired of resetting the adjustable screen all the time. To me its annoying. I read that since the holes are bigger that you cannot finely grind, I also read that the distance between the glass screen to the heating element is farther away, causing one to use either more material to compensate, raise the heat or attach a basket screen to it. Can someone verify this please?

has anyone had any success with a gravity bong and the e nano? I would love to hear how you set it up. im still trying to make sense of it, I mean it looks like it can work, just not sure how.

Also, last question for today, I promise.....I think. I mostly use my e nano in the bathroom, because well its private! But sometimes I am in a hurry and someone has showered before hand. Its pretty hot and muggy here now. So when I go into the bathroom right after the last person has showered, you can still feel some moisture in the air, though there is no running water. considering I am trying to hurry out, I plug the unit and vape as soon as I can do so. So my question is; will heating up and using the unit when there is still sometype of moisture in the air have a negative effect on the unit? Ive tried to open the door and window fully to air it out, but due to my limited time I have to do it as fast as I can.

Think I found it. If you were searching for it (or the other things you had asked about), you might want to tweak up your search skills. Found the post you were talkling about by entering "cigs" in the search box and clicking to indicate just this thread. The vid is here , done by the infamous Ed himself of Ed's TNT. What he is using is a zapbubbler. Essentially the same type of thing your were asking about in that post (hydrotube). Don't think these are still available anywhere, new or used. IIRC they were made by the same company that did the aromazap/myrtlezap vaporizers (an earlier log vape, but they are now gone). There is probably still a pretty good thread for it on FC somewhere. Anyway.... a few similar things are still available, the PNWT probably the most popular and easiest to find. Still, IMO if water is involved you're better off inverting the nano on top of it, then setting it on top of the nano but YMMV.

Gravity bong with nano? I dunno.... I try to keep my nano away from that kind of water situation, but should work. Ought to be easy enough to do with some electrical tape, maybe some silicone, and a GonG adapter. I think I've aged out on gravity bongs, though. Just another thing that makes you shake your head and laugh after 30 is in your rear view mirror. :myday:

Some people love the glass screens. Think these are what Ace himself still uses. They are OK with full nugs, but I'm not a fan myself. I really love the adjustability with the basket screens. But, you can drop a small flat ss screen in on top of the glass screen that will help with small bits getting through. Also, on mine I can put a basket screen in (with open end towards glass screen) to lift the load closer to the heater while keeping bits from going through. Doesn't move around because it is sitting on the glass screen. Not sure if this is still the case with newer ones. My newest glass screened stuff is about 2 years old, and different vendors are probably producing them now. So, the depth may not be the same as mine.

FWIW if screen slippage is the issue, new screens or stretching your old ones should eliminate the problem. Take care of your screens, and they will definitely take care of you!! I've probably got about 7 or 8 in rotation, but have only had to throw one out because it was getting too crumpled to mess with in the 1 1/2+ years they've been out. Just grab some more if you don't want to mess with it. I mean.... what the fuck? They're only a buck! Think glass screened GonGs are up to about $10 more than adjust-a-bowls. That's 10 screens right there!

Not really sure with the moisture in the bathroom, but if you have your stash in there while you are waiting for the nano to warm up, the moisture will definitely affect the process. Takes a little more temp on the first few hits to get moister loads going. Also, would suspect you will have more water vapor in your hits. This may have been contributing to your issues with not getting good vapor that you had asked about before. DRY, ground material seems to vape best IME.

Glad the other info helped!

This is one of the most talked about vape here. I'm very intrigued by the "log" concept, but have been a long time smoker, mostly rolling. I have no glass, water, experience much, nor does it seem like an enjoyable ritual to me. I love S&B products because of the ease of use, taste, purity. Do the log vapes win in any of those departments as compared to a Might or Plenty? Is the taste superior. Is there ease of use (relatively). Efficiency? - you hear legendary things while my Plenty rips through material. I want to branch out, not waste money on vapes I won't use. Bud, the vape critic, doesn't seem to even mention logs, and I've followed his advice on my S&B purchases and am quite happy.

eNano Reasons yes? Reasons no?

Think @max was right on with some of the reason logs aren't more mainstream. But also, most people don't really want to get into vaping the way many on FC are. They'd rather just go to the store and pick something up (leading to many bad and expensive experiences from what I've seen and heard). Have only tried the Volcano from S&B, and admittedly my impressions of Crafty/Mighty/Plenty are tainted by that. In short, you want how much for that thing that is going to use how much more of my stash to get buzzed? Think they are definitely adding at least a few bucks to their retail prices based on their name and the fact that they are German - not unlike at least one major car manufacturer (BMW that is - IMO Mercedes really is that good!). Bud the vape critic has his moments, but also seems to only go with vapes that are mass produced and available at LHS's. Maybe he has a deal with a local shop or distributor?

What I'm getting at is that vapes are still pretty new to most and not quite mainstream. Certainly not as much as smoking. We're fortunate to be vaping in this time period. I figure they will probably either become much more common, or die off for most. If they become more popular, they will probably eventually go the way as most other things. That being there will be a few models that are very similar made by a few large companies. I'm just happy we are fortunate enough to be here and enjoying all of the many varieties and innovations that come out regularly, even if loosely based on earlier models. Many people don't know that there used to be many more car options in the US than the big 3. Many don't know there used to be more choices than MAC or Intel. I fear that in the not too distant future many won't know there used to be more choices than S&B or Arizer for vapes. Thank God for the FC community and all the great manufacturers that participate!

Anyway... back to your questions... think most - you included - would enjoy a log vape. Not always as simple to use as most S&B products, but not as expensive to buy, and not as expensive to own. If you don't like it, they never seem to last long on the classifieds here - often selling for about what they cost. In my estimation if you got one and used it for a month, the savings you'd have in material over your Plenty would be more than the loss you would take selling it used.

Pluses? Cheaper, more efficient (as in less material needed so cheaper to own), and doesn't really look like a high tech weed machine - just to name a few. It does look really cool sitting on your end table, especially with its little LED light glowing. Customer service usually more personal and always get you straightened out.

Minuses? While it will work fine right out of the box, takes a little practice and sometimes using personal preferences to really get the most out of it. It doesn't really look like a high tech weed machine that you can impress friends with. Customer service isn't instant or available through an 800 number. Sometimes it takes a little bit to get their attention and get things moving. Though once you do, everyone seems happy in the end.

Epicvape is the best place to buy. Especially with the discount and lifetime warranty!
 

Chezgreendream

First the flavor, then the buZzz settles in....
Think I found it. If you were searching for it (or the other things you had asked about), you might want to tweak up your search skills. Found the post you were talkling about by entering "cigs" in the search box and clicking to indicate just this thread. The vid is here , done by the infamous Ed himself of Ed's TNT. What he is using is a zapbubbler. Essentially the same type of thing your were asking about in that post (hydrotube). Don't think these are still available anywhere, new or used. IIRC they were made by the same company that did the aromazap/myrtlezap vaporizers (an earlier log vape, but they are now gone). There is probably still a pretty good thread for it on FC somewhere. Anyway.... a few similar things are still available, the PNWT probably the most popular and easiest to find. Still, IMO if water is involved you're better off inverting the nano on top of it, then setting it on top of the nano but YMMV.

Gravity bong with nano? I dunno.... I try to keep my nano away from that kind of water situation, but should work. Ought to be easy enough to do with some electrical tape, maybe some silicone, and a GonG adapter. I think I've aged out on gravity bongs, though. Just another thing that makes you shake your head and laugh after 30 is in your rear view mirror. :myday:

Some people love the glass screens. Think these are what Ace himself still uses. They are OK with full nugs, but I'm not a fan myself. I really love the adjustability with the basket screens. But, you can drop a small flat ss screen in on top of the glass screen that will help with small bits getting through. Also, on mine I can put a basket screen in (with open end towards glass screen) to lift the load closer to the heater while keeping bits from going through. Doesn't move around because it is sitting on the glass screen. Not sure if this is still the case with newer ones. My newest glass screened stuff is about 2 years old, and different vendors are probably producing them now. So, the depth may not be the same as mine.

FWIW if screen slippage is the issue, new screens or stretching your old ones should eliminate the problem. Take care of your screens, and they will definitely take care of you!! I've probably got about 7 or 8 in rotation, but have only had to throw one out because it was getting too crumpled to mess with in the 1 1/2+ years they've been out. Just grab some more if you don't want to mess with it. I mean.... what the fuck? They're only a buck! Think glass screened GonGs are up to about $10 more than adjust-a-bowls. That's 10 screens right there!

Not really sure with the moisture in the bathroom, but if you have your stash in there while you are waiting for the nano to warm up, the moisture will definitely affect the process. Takes a little more temp on the first few hits to get moister loads going. Also, would suspect you will have more water vapor in your hits. This may have been contributing to your issues with not getting good vapor that you had asked about before. DRY, ground material seems to vape best IME.

Glad the other info helped!



Think @max was right on with some of the reason logs aren't more mainstream. But also, most people don't really want to get into vaping the way many on FC are. They'd rather just go to the store and pick something up (leading to many bad and expensive experiences from what I've seen and heard). Have only tried the Volcano from S&B, and admittedly my impressions of Crafty/Mighty/Plenty are tainted by that. In short, you want how much for that thing that is going to use how much more of my stash to get buzzed? Think they are definitely adding at least a few bucks to their retail prices based on their name and the fact that they are German - not unlike at least one major car manufacturer (BMW that is - IMO Mercedes really is that good!). Bud the vape critic has his moments, but also seems to only go with vapes that are mass produced and available at LHS's. Maybe he has a deal with a local shop or distributor?

What I'm getting at is that vapes are still pretty new to most and not quite mainstream. Certainly not as much as smoking. We're fortunate to be vaping in this time period. I figure they will probably either become much more common, or die off for most. If they become more popular, they will probably eventually go the way as most other things. That being there will be a few models that are very similar made by a few large companies. I'm just happy we are fortunate enough to be here and enjoying all of the many varieties and innovations that come out regularly, even if loosely based on earlier models. Many people don't know that there used to be many more car options in the US than the big 3. Many don't know there used to be more choices than MAC or Intel. I fear that in the not too distant future many won't know there used to be more choices than S&B or Arizer for vapes. Thank God for the FC community and all the great manufacturers that participate!

Anyway... back to your questions... think most - you included - would enjoy a log vape. Not always as simple to use as most S&B products, but not as expensive to buy, and not as expensive to own. If you don't like it, they never seem to last long on the classifieds here - often selling for about what they cost. In my estimation if you got one and used it for a month, the savings you'd have in material over your Plenty would be more than the loss you would take selling it used.

Pluses? Cheaper, more efficient (as in less material needed so cheaper to own), and doesn't really look like a high tech weed machine - just to name a few. It does look really cool sitting on your end table, especially with its little LED light glowing. Customer service usually more personal and always get you straightened out.

Minuses? While it will work fine right out of the box, takes a little practice and sometimes using personal preferences to really get the most out of it. It doesn't really look like a high tech weed machine that you can impress friends with. Customer service isn't instant or available through an 800 number. Sometimes it takes a little bit to get their attention and get things moving. Though once you do, everyone seems happy in the end.

Epicvape is the best place to buy. Especially with the discount and lifetime warranty!

Thats the video!!! Thank you my friend. Thank you for your thoughts and detailed answer.
 

GetLeft

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Epicvape is the best place to buy. Especially with the discount and lifetime warranty!

Dang. I think I messed up. I ordered the maple. When I plugged in the FC coupon, I was told that the maple (sale item) doesn't come with the FC discount. The maple was still a few $ cheaper than some other simiiarly priced nanos with the FC discount, so what the heck I stuck with it. Had no idea that it affected the warranty (my order says 3 yrs., not lifetime). Noobie mistake and a little bit of a buzz kill.
 

KidFated.

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Dang. I think I messed up. I ordered the maple. When I plugged in the FC coupon, I was told that the maple (sale item) doesn't come with the FC discount. The maple was still a few $ cheaper than some other simiiarly priced nanos with the FC discount, so what the heck I stuck with it. Had no idea that it affected the warranty (my order says 3 yrs., not lifetime). Noobie mistake and a little bit of a buzz kill.
Andy will take care of you, do not worry :)
 
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