Discontinued The Grasshopper

Jared

Cannabis Enthusiast
I love the talk of hot harsh vapor and huge clouds. May have to pick one of these up after all. I've been using an 18mm<->18mm glass adapter as a wand for my LSV and I really dig how potent the vapor is with such a small air path.
 

alphabj

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I can't even friggen imagine how you guys who originally backed it feel at this point. I've been waiting since March and these pictures/reviews are killllllllling me.

I've been waiting for this thing since I returned my 1st edition Ascent and heard the GH guys on some podcast talking about how they were gonna make the MFLB killer. They finally did it now that I've lost it :freak: :mental:

I wonder who will be the brave soul to risk losing a hopper by trying to disassemble it so we can finally see the NASA tech! :science:
 

herbivore21

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Well after a few more burn off sessions and a ISO Qtip swab there does not appear to be any off gassing and I went ahead and loaded it up. My daily driver is the enano through a bubbler so I am coming off one of the better tasting desktop vapes that is being water cooled. My initial reaction is that I was getting great production and having on demand vapor is a very cool and new experience. Flavor was fine - I'd say not quite as good as the solo but not really far behind either. The vapor and the tip do get hot so if you know you are sensitive to hot vapor this may not be the vape for you. Having said that I think for the majority of the population it's very workable especially with a modified technique (taking breaks between hits to cool down) not a huge deal given how quickly this thing produces vapor. I think we are conditioned to hit vapes repeatedly since we are so used to having a finite session time as well as conduction vapes actively deteriorating the plant material; both are non issues with the grasshopper. If you are looking for a party vape where you can quickly pass it to a bunch of people the grasshopper may be suboptimal despite the portability.

To clarify a few prior points:
I am blowing into the intake holes so the direction of vapor is exactly the same as if I was inhaling. I don't believe moisture to be an issue either since the off-gassing went away

On the wires - honestly I have no idea I can sort of make out a silhouette of a thin bent piece so could be something else

Yikes, doesn't taste as good as the solo?

Of all the vapes I've owned, the Solo is not exactly a standout for flavor!

I'll wait to here from other reviewers as well but this sounds like a big trade off! One of my fundamental requirements of a new vape when I got my Mighty and sold my Solo was that any flower vape must taste better than the Solo at least lol
 

herbivore21

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If the Ti GH I just ordered can't make my herb taste like rare filet minon and Ceasar salad I'm canceling!
Sounds pretty nasty to me man I wouldn't eat either of those things due to taste haha

It may sound like I'm being precious wanting to retain the taste. However, too many vapes I have used in the past seem to cook off terps into the air, leaking out of air inlets/openings in the air path whilst you are not hitting it. I don't wanna lose terps, these are part of the entourage effect!

This flavor only in first hit effect is a classic property of conduction vapes IME, wherein conduction will cook off the flavor before the other actives in an invisible vapor you can't even necessarily see coming off the vape! This is what happens in the Solo, and even moreso in vapes with more conduction heating (some of which still have their place for concentrates which melt up more readily than the actives ground up in plant material, but are not a portable I want to use for flowers!)

Still, I have actually been kindly reassured that this problem does not take place with the Grasshopper, @BuzzDanklin reports that the flavor stays throughout the bowl after the first hit and does not disappear in the form of invisible vapor escaping the vape after your first inhalation :D I am relieved, but should not surprised to hear this because the grasshopper is supposed to be convection only.
 

delloy

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Regarding the SS case that everyone is keen to see, I did think about adding one of these to my order but was concerned that if it was just raw stainless on the inside with no liner, wouldn't repeated removal/rattling around in the case cause unnecessary scratches and blemishes to the GH?
I've just added 2 leather sleeves to my order as I was also thinking of pocket lint gumming up the mouthpiece.
 
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PDwasmy1st

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I am worried about the heat harshness & taste, i nearly waited for the reviews now wish i had, can you get enough cloud on lower temps? and can you avoid the heat and bad taste? ( i wont ever go high temp they are for almost smokers ;)

Also how come the bubbler is more expensive than the GH itself @ $150

That's the 1 do we no if this will fit perfectly? no holding together , maybe a bit of silicon needed?

Sorry in advance for the double post i left it a while thought someone would have said something and had no way of telling...
 
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Mr. Me2

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@midgetsanchez I just tested your findings and both of my hoppers light up when I touch a quarter connecting the body to the tip of the button. Quite an interesting find, I wonder if mine has been doing this in my pocket as I have carried it with metal objects multiple times.
Im curious if the gh ss case will cause this false on effect too...

Looks like Trevor already answered this with a resounding no. :clap:
 
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bounce5

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I personally don't find the metal-to-button false on too worrisome. It's probably not often this contact would happen anyway.

Although perhaps not a huge issue...there are at least 3 very common metal things that could often be around your vape: a Grinder, a pill fob, a loading tool. And of course spare change in a pocket or bag/purse is pretty common. To have to even think about this issue is kind of dissapointing/annoying. But at least there are work arounds....put the silicone mouthpiece on the button, separate storage, or have accessories around it that are made of plastic or non-metal materials.

Looking forward to more reviews to see what other issues pop up...
 
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PDwasmy1st

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Check out the cheap glass thread. Many people use that site. (Dhgate)

If you do use it than you will probably have to confirm the payment with your bank.

The trust site you link to is based off one single review with no text? (Edit: looks the review was removed)
I wouldn't call loads of bad reviews 1 review dig deeper! 81.2% give it 1 star out of 5! i have since found out this smaller glass is pretty useless as water goes into your mouth being how 1 end is too small.`
 
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snamuh

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I wouldn't call loads of bad reviews 1 review dig deeper! 81.2% give it 1 star out of 5! i have since found out this smaller glass is pretty useless as water goes into your mouth being how 1 end is too small.`
Ahh, I see. Whoops!
In the mobile site that single removed review looked like the only one. After a few clicks I found the rest.
 
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Delta3DStudios

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Accessory Maker
Damn! I can't even keep up with this thread it's moving so damn fast!


I wish it was possible to know more about the way the Grasshopper works. I'm not technically inclined enough to really understand it, I'm sure, but. The way it transmits electronic signals, without wires, through the body of the vape...I've never heard of anything that did that before. I'm really curious about it, isn't that supposedly part of what is supposed to make it so durable and cheap?

Ever used Ethernet over Powerline in your house?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-line_communication

I'm betting it uses some sort of modulated frequency to send signals. The body of the pen acts as a transmitter for this modulated frequency.

No, there are no wires in the vapor path that was one major aspect of the whole design, wireless communication between microprocessors.

They're not doing anything fancy here, it's been done for years in other industries, they simply applied it to a vape.

What I find most interesting is the metal 'sense' bug in the design. If the vaporizer is off, why are the lights turning on at all? How fast will this drain the battery when not in use? Should we not store a battery in the vape for extended periods of time?

I'd like to see someone confirm the heater is NOT turning on by using a coin to activate the lights, and taking a slow drag - see if any vapor is produced.

Those wires "could" be the source of the off gassing. I believe that this was also the case with the Ascent, which they fixed in later production runs.

Nope - the Ascent's offgassing was caused by the silicone. They fixed the problem by finishing the Silicone curing process in America.

There were a few reports of visible wires under the oven in the Ascent on some early units, but that wasn't an issue (they were far enough away from the heat). They simply hadn't been properly tucked into the wire clip on the body of the vape during assembly

If *anything* I suspect there may be slight offgassing from the heater itself, but let's wait for more feedback before we jump the gun and assume some phantom wires are causing toxic offgassing.


Also I'm betting that clicking sound is probably the oven turning on/off as it maintains temp
 
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IAmKrazy2

Darth Vapor
Yikes, doesn't taste as good as the solo?

Of all the vapes I've owned, the Solo is not exactly a standout for flavor!

I'll wait to here from other reviewers as well but this sounds like a big trade off! One of my fundamental requirements of a new vape when I got my Mighty and sold my Solo was that any flower vape must taste better than the Solo at least lol

With the short glass tubes of the Solo i always thoughttit actually was a standout in flavor.

Edit. I typically use it at temp 2 or 3, no higher..and start sucking while it is still heating up so my technique may be a factor.
 
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Kalessin

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Damn! I can't even keep up with this thread it's moving so damn fast!




Ever used Ethernet over Powerline in your house?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-line_communication

I'm betting it uses some sort of modulated frequency to send signals. The body of the pen acts as a transmitter for this modulated frequency.

That's really interesting, I've never heard of running ethernet through your electric supply. I live in a rural area and I guess we haven't discovered such things, yet. I'm really intrigued by the whole idea though, I'm gonna read through that wiki page at some point
 
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