This is a "must see".

lwien

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hd_rider

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I simply cannot fathom that in this era of advanced scientific knowledge, where the beneficial effects of cannabis have been proven time and again, that we have an uninformed / uneducated public that cling to the idea that "weed" is still just as dangerous and useless as heroin, meth, crack cocaine, LSD, and other illicit drugs. Couple that with the fact that pharmaceutical companies pay lobbyists millions of dollars to keep cannabis classified as a Schedule 1 drug. Those same companies stand to lose billions of dollars in revenue if cannabis is ever dropped from Schedule 1 because that's when people will figure out just how many pills can be replaced by a lowly, natural plant. Not to mention the thousands of police agencies that will lose millions in federal and state funding if cannabis is rescheduled.
 

lwien

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What really got me in that vid was when the President of the American Epilepsy Society said, "We don't know the potential side effects of marijuana. What we don't want to do is to make the seizures better but their life worse."

What about all the fucking side effects of the fucking pharmaceuticals that rarely make the seizures better but definitely make their lives worse?

And then she goes on to say that what may be happening here is a placebo affect that just makes the parents THINK that their child is getting better.

WTF?!???!? :shrug:

One has got to wonder who in the hell is signing her paychecks, eh?
 

JCat

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I simply cannot fathom that in this era of advanced scientific knowledge, where the beneficial effects of cannabis have been proven time and again, that we have an uninformed / uneducated public that cling to the idea that "weed" is still just as dangerous and useless as heroin, meth, crack cocaine, LSD, and other illicit drugs. Couple that with the fact that pharmaceutical companies pay lobbyists millions of dollars to keep cannabis classified as a Schedule 1 drug. Those same companies stand to lose billions of dollars in revenue if cannabis is ever dropped from Schedule 1 because that's when people will figure out just how many pills can be replaced by a lowly, natural plant. Not to mention the thousands of police agencies that will lose millions in federal and state funding if cannabis is rescheduled.

Not so sure that LSD is useless ... there's been some good research and trials that show LSD having great promise w/ treating patients w/ terminal illnesses that are unable to come to terms ... it seems to have some benefit to change one's "mindset" like flipping a switch ... (haven't done LSD in almost 2 decades, but I can see how this would be the case and I can definitely see it having some purpose/use in certain situations--apart from just getting high :))
 

Eschient

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I was happy to see at least some mention of other medical uses like PTSD and other medically useful compounds like THC-A, even if it was really only in passing. It's good to remind people that CW and treating seizures aren't the end of the line when it comes to "Medical," it's just the tip of the iceburg.
 

StheDubya

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Its been used for medicinal purposes for how many hundreds of years yet they always seem to find a way to say that we "just don't know enough about it". That's one of my favorite lines with these people. If they really want to know more about it they would be consulting the experts. The people who have been using it for decades.

Yes its a fun recreational drug but the medicinal value is undeniable and those against it probably have never even tried it. They are just followers who believe in all of the misinformation uncle sam has been shoving down our throats. But change is coming. And Im so thankful that these children are getting the relief they so need.
 

MoltenTiger

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People set in their ways earning millions of dollars (personal income, big pharma is probably a trillion dollar industry in total revenue) are hard to shift. At some level they have removed any trace of humanity from their personalities and have let the endless distractions that money can buy blind them from trying to improve things.
The biggest thing preventing this herb being utilised, is the lack of business innovation happening.
If I was the CEO of Johnson & Johnson or similar, I would be putting efforts in place to commercialise an industrialised process to extract the active chemicals and utilise already made trade agreements to disperse these products globally. It's what is happening with alkaloids, I have worked at the base level in this industry, it could for a long time coexist with a gradual switch to this new super drug as new methods of application are proved. There would be minimal money loss as they would be replacing a product with another of their own.

Smoking opiates is not the same as eating codeine, it's the same with cannabis, and it wouldn't be hard to deter the greater public from doing so. The potential use is known to be big, there's just a lot of time and money to be spent figuring out the best way to do it. It's likely that behind the scenes it's being done, but there is much to do, and decisions made are based solely on the profiteering and not at all on harm reduction.

The ethics of business is sadly lacking, wouldn't it be great if this plant brought light to this situation? The western world needs a better escape outlet than alcohol, nicotine and cheap goods. And sick people deserve proper help. Bring on the future.
 

SSVUN~YAH

You Must Unlearn, What You Have Learned...
One has got to wonder who in the hell is signing her paychecks, eh?
I think the doctor is sucking up to the fancy wine em dine em 69 em mentality of the real drug pushers. It's so much bs the president even did the same thing! 2 steps forward, one step back wtf! It's a river ocean of bs my friend, one of these days though, we can step outside and rejoice together in harmony. I still believe that fairness and good conquers deception and evil. The latter are just tricky devils to break free from, keep fighting the good fight! Viva FC!!!
 

arf777

No longer dogless
What really got me in that vid was when the President of the American Epilepsy Society said, "We don't know the potential side effects of marijuana. What we don't want to do is to make the seizures better but their life worse."

What about all the fucking side effects of the fucking pharmaceuticals that rarely make the seizures better but definitely make their lives worse?

And then she goes on to say that what may be happening here is a placebo affect that just makes the parents THINK that their child is getting better.

WTF?!???!? :shrug:

One has got to wonder who in the hell is signing her paychecks, eh?


Totally agree- back around 2000 I almost died from Neurontin toxicity, but that crap is still being used for seizures all over the place.

And @JCat is completely correct re LSD. See the legendary Spring Grove study. I went to undergrad across the street from Spring Grove, and my mom used to be a staff therapist there, so I kinda had to learn about that.

And on a personal note, when I was younger it also helped me come to grips with extensive childhood trauma. Not in the same category as smack or street cocaine at all.
 

max

Out to lunch
What really got me in that vid was when the President of the American Epilepsy Society said, "We don't know the potential side effects of marijuana. What we don't want to do is to make the seizures better but their life worse."

What about all the fucking side effects of the fucking pharmaceuticals that rarely make the seizures better but definitely make their lives worse?

And then she goes on to say that what may be happening here is a placebo affect that just makes the parents THINK that their child is getting better.

WTF?!???!? :shrug:

One has got to wonder who in the hell is signing her paychecks, eh?
I listen to the side effects (including death) they're forced to list at the end of drug commercials and just shake my head. If you're having seizures all the time your quality of life has to be very low. Exactly how is CBD going to make your life worse than that? Placebo effect? That suggestion is ridiculous. You're either having seizures or you're not.
 

lwien

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I listen to the side effects (including death) they're forced to list at the end of drug commercials and just shake my head.

No shit. I too shake my head when I hear those on TV.

"Buy our drug and it will help alleviate your depression and/or pain from arthritis, but, it may cause heart attacks, cancer, strokes and death.", and btw, I am not exaggerating here for that is exactly what they say.
Fuck, just hearing that shit makes me depressed.
 
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StheDubya

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You can do an internet search for the common side effects of prescription drugs. Its some interesting and really sad stuff. If the side effects of weed were anything close then maybe the haters would have a leg to stand on. What are common side effects of weed? May cause drowsiness, increase of appetite, increase in happiness. In all seriousness I know there actually can be some negs when you get too high but generally nothing serious. Surely not swelling and bleeding of the anus. That's one of my faves you hear
 
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grokit

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:hmm: What you rather have, restless leg syndrome, or an "uncontrollable gambling problem"?

Because the latter is one of the listed side-effects of the drug that remedies the former.
 
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