Cheap High Quality Bubbler

I haven't been on this thread for a while- I have VAS but am happy with my D020. I'd like to get a small water product that would work with my underdog. Most of the small ones I've seen don't seem to be for herbs. Can someone recommend a mini bubbler or something like that if it exists?

little maggie said:

I haven't been on this thread for a while- I have VAS but am happy with my D020. I'd like to get a small water product that would work with my underdog. Most of the small ones I've seen don't seem to be for herbs. Can someone recommend a mini bubbler or something like that if it exists?

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welcome back friend, how would you like it to differ (function/form) from the D020? Or is this to go along with your other glass. Also what do you consider small?

glitchsta said:

Actually I think the SL15002 I ordered has something wrong with it...I think the hole/tube going into the center of the showerhead is clogged with glass or not made big enough...Check out his video at

Notice above the showerhead its like shooting bubbles of water straight throuugh the middle, my showerhead shoots a stream of water like out of a hose...also my showerhead wont drain back down...drip by drip it goes... Here are a couple videos I made to show Steven...What am I doing wrong!?!? I am kinda new to these, could be my fault...

Seems like the more water I add as he suggested makes it almost impossible to pull air through...the drag is tremendous heh...i swear that hole above showerhead is a pinhole....please help!

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Hello, I can vouch for the efficacy of reverse showerhead percs. Syn glass, based in NC, has used reverse showerheads with plenty of perfectly cut slits for proply 6 or 7 years so there is nothing wrong with a glass blower designer to want to incorporate this design, but there also needs to be a better testing of multiple perc pieces like this. ThickAssGlass actually started making knockoff double and triple reverse showerhead perc pieces. I had the double r. s. It functioned pretty well considering only about 12 slits perc showerhead but i liked it mostly for the large volume. I know that first inital drag is always worse for this design but i got used to mine very quickly. TAG also sells many reverse frit and honeycomb percs. BUT what gives me even more suspicion was that CCG sells this same model and it had pretty good reviews from what I read. I was very skeptical about it myself when i first stumbled apon it. In the function video i see that the tree perc reverse flows when you stop hitting because off the massive amount off tension in the lower perc. All in all it does scare me to look at those percs jamed together and im suprised it has been getting good reviews so far. Not to mention, that CCG is selling it for 37 instead of 69...

alltoreup said:

My FC-1000 has developed a crack above the matrix perc going into two of the pillars. Doesn't affect function but will only get bigger. Bummer. When it came it was virtually flawless. Keep your eye open on these new Steven pieces, everyone. Mine had only been rinsed out a couple times and sat on one of those silicone hexagon trivets its whole life. I don't think it's even been bumped. Oh well. I'm on vacation starting today and it wasn't going anyway haha.

On a side note: I am PBWing( yeah it's a verb) my FC 710 and noticed that the piece will hold water all the way up to the stoppered mouthpiece without pushing water out the open male joint. Pretty nifty. It's defying gravity. Water is higher up than the open outlet.

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Had this happen to Jhan Pixel big piece. I was getting baked 'busting flowers (yeah time from time I do, impatient couldnt wait for the warm up time for Solo) so Im sitting down and the pipe is on the counter and after 20 mins of zoning out I hear a TINK ..hmmm I said and looked in the sink to see what might have settled,no news there I go over the rig and low n behold there is a good size crack running from the dewar joint ,extending around the dome of the top of the can This is the piece: http://www.ioffer.com/i/13-cyclone-ratchet-perc-disc-dewar-bubbler-water-pipe-527022438?i=60920833

I was bummed, What do I do?, I see the FC 1000 and figure hmm sweet big rig, and not bad on the price so I jump on it. So while Im waiting for it, I talk to Jhan who was great, he said send it out and I'll repair it (nice thing about buying in the states, this guy goes above and beyond for us here at FC, if you buy from he also gives us a 10% discount, good guy !) So My FC 1000 arrives and Im in love, this rig is exceptional and I milk it up nice with the Solo and must admit it took a while on the learning curve with it, I wasnt able to totally clear the can at first an have finally got it down now so that this rig delivers a great COOL rip, where I , who always has a coughing fit from the vape above 4 was doing #7 and enjoying great rips and no cough. The watching of this rig while its doing its thing is so entertaining for me,Nice rig and now to hear it may settle and crack will hurt and I will keep a watchful eye on it. Sorry about yours, Jhan says it happens a lot, he called it a thermal shock crack ,nature of the beast I guess, but it now has me looking over 25 pieces and see if theyre going to self destruct after being dormant with out use. Bummer!

Note*** love coming here ,used to be able to spend more time but schedule is jammed this year and havent got the time to do much other than rescue a ton of bullys. Anyhow , miss the crew here and as always I see all of you doing your best to help one another,HOW COOL IS THAT , ESPECIALLY WITH THE GLASS HUNTERS AND NOW EVEN MORE WITH THE RIGHTEOUS DUDES WHO GOT MAD SKILLS IN DESIGNING AND MAKING OUR DREAM RIGS COME TO LIFE, AT A FRACTION OF THE COST OF THE OTHERS. ................YIPPE KAI YEA ...

We are a couple months on the torch now, and with my experience so far, china glass is very tempermental. My man just made a spoon the other day, using china white tubing as the core, wrapped several other northstar colors on it, sleeved it in a clear simax tube, and worked it up. After it was done anealing, he took it out of the kiln, and was looking at it, holding it, so it was cool, and suddenly it cracked in his hand. The stuff is just unstable esp. the white which seems that it's COE isn't exactly 33. I will be steering clear of purchasing china tubing and color rods if possible just for this reason, it's just MY personal preference, and based on my expereince level with glass, other people may not share my opinion.
I will say however, so far, every piece i have from dhgate has not fallen apart or cracked beyond use The ones that showed up with minor cracks that are mostly cosmeticly unpleasing, have held together and look the same as they did when I got them. It's unfortunate that some of these nicer pieces are having after shock responses. I still want to pick up the FC 186 one of these days, it's had my attention since it came out.

i've heard of quite a few blowers who like the white china glass

source: talkglass forum


and to stay on topic. been using the FC-Cake for a day now. nice but i think it could use a little more restriction or a taller can.

Few pictures of the FC-UFOv1 and the FC-UFOv2 side-by-side (V1 on the left, V2 on the right)





(Sorry had to mess with the contrast, I suck at photography and I have very little lighting to work with!

As you can see, the V2 has 2x the slits in the perc, and the joint was raised another 1 or 2 cm for the mouthpiece. Also the two mouthpieces I have are different sizes, seems it's totally random what size and angle you'll get with the mouthpiece.

As mentioned. my V1 had too many problems for me to accept as-is (VERY wobbly base, poorly cut perc, and a split in the glass). The V2 while better, still wobbles and has a poorly cut perc.

Honestly, at this point Steven has had 3 chances with me, none of which passed my reasonably low standards. I personally will avoid purchasing from him in the future, and will not recommend his products to other members simply because his QC standards are far too low.

*Maybe* I'll give him another chance in several months, but not anytime soon

Thanks for the honest review and feedback @Ratchett.

I ordered an FC-710 for a friend last month and was impressed with it. It did have a canted downstem (U-stem?), but was tolerable enough that I ordered one for myself last week. I was going to order the UFO this weekend, but think I will pass now.

Between my disappointment of the original FC-187, people reporting poor packaging of multiple pieces and not so stellar quality assurance I think I am going to hold off on procuring anymore from him as well, at least for the time being.

flotntoke said:

Know it has fallen from the favorites list in this thread lately, but IMO it's hard to beat the good ole GB187 for vaping flowers. Any of the sidecar versions (FC 187s etc) or the UFO V2 that's out now would probably be good, too. Think you'll enjoy larger chamber and less diffusion. You'll retain more flavor and be able to see/feel the differences of different temps more.

All those funky percs and the bubbles they produce do look really cool. But for me, I'd rather be closer and more in tune to the vapor and leave the big bubble stacking and intricate water paths to smokers. Also, a hell of a lot easier to keep clean or deep clean as necessary if you don't have a maze of glass inside.

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This is interesting.

What I've been doing recently is starting off with the GB187 (at 5 on the Solo) for a few blasts and going to the GB194 when I kick it up to 7 to 'finish it off', because the taste is crappy anyway up there and losing that is actually a positive ! Plus it's not as irritating to the throat at higher temps with the 194. (I like taking big hits too, so that factors in also)

Sometimes I'll take a dry one at 3 when it's heating up, straight of the GonG for maximum flavor

@Ratchett
All my glass is still sitting in CALI since last week. Not sure what the hold up could be?
I'm anxious to see how the UFO functions. I also have a GB-187 coming too. I didn't go with Steven's "FC-187" because of all the bad reports I have been hearing AND seeing.

Slow Draw McGraw said:

@Ratchett
All my glass is still sitting in CALI since last week. Not sure what the hold up could be?
I'm anxious to see how the UFO functions. I also have a GB-187 coming too. I didn't go with Steven's "FC-187" because of all the bad reports I have been hearing AND seeing.

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The FC-UFOv2 is certainly the best piece of the 3 that I have, so there's still *hope* for you

But yeah, seriously people - I suggest you avoid Steven unless you don't mind risking the chance of getting a poorly made piece.

I personally think I've learned quite a bit about glass over the past year thanks to DHgate, and I have a better idea what I like and don't like. Now it's time to step up my game and pay for quality glass.

@jambandphan03 When are you going to start sharing your masterpieces with us???

http://m.dhgate.com/product/wp-010-two-functions-hand-blown-glass-vase/166215931.html#s2-36-1

Is there a reason this peice has $20 shipping? Is it because they want to push a newer version that costs about the same with shipping included?

http://m.dhgate.com/product/yq-21a-11-5-inch-glass-glass-water-pipe-two/209553754.html#s2-33-1
Maybe I'm cynical.


My Local Shop has this peice for $100. I tried showing the owner the link and told him I'd give him $40 for the peice since its been there for a year. He said no, $85 was the Lowest.

EDIT: @ChiefKeefe

I'm not sure this is the case. Look at other pieces shipping prices from sunshinestore.

Sunshine charges less for the product and makes the customer pay shipping I believe. His shipping is BOMBPROOF though. Stevens pieces are more expensive but shipping is free.. Not as good at shipping stuff many people have gotten broken pipes.

I waiting on my d cycler from kathy and my fc 186 from Steven which I'm not looking forward too with all the problems with steven. I know I should got the gb 186 but most people said the fc was better but worried about quality now??bummer..hope the d cycler is nice..

subway13029 said:

I waiting on my d cycler from kathy and my fc 186 from Steven which I'm not looking forward too with all the problems with steven. I know I should got the gb 186 but most people said the fc was better but worried about quality now??bummer..hope the d cycler is nice..

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I ordered the fc-186 and the straight fab. After hearing all this I'm not looking forward to potentially receiving two broken pieces of glass *knock on wood* either, but do think steve's quality is the best when you get a good piece. Sucks that chinese Q.C. is so bad-- they make glass, they can just melt down and reuse!!!!!

not to mention i've been waiting since May 21st.

my last couple shipments from steven have been fine. shipped fairly quick and safely packaged

Ratchett said:

Few pictures of the FC-UFOv1 and the FC-UFOv2 side-by-side (V1 on the left, V2 on the right)

(Sorry had to mess with the contrast, I suck at photography and I have very little lighting to work with!

As you can see, the V2 has 2x the slits in the perc, and the joint was raised another 1 or 2 cm for the mouthpiece. Also the two mouthpieces I have are different sizes, seems it's totally random what size and angle you'll get with the mouthpiece.

As mentioned. my V1 had too many problems for me to accept as-is (VERY wobbly base, poorly cut perc, and a split in the glass). The V2 while better, still wobbles and has a poorly cut perc.

Honestly, at this point Steven has had 3 chances with me, none of which passed my reasonably low standards. I personally will avoid purchasing from him in the future, and will not recommend his products to other members simply because his QC standards are far too low.

*Maybe* I'll give him another chance in several months, but not anytime soon

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Many thanks for this great review complete with comparison pics @Ratchett !! Have been waiting for your impressions before pulling the trigger on this one - and think I'm going to hold off for time being. My luck with Steven has been good to date, but sounds like he may be ramping his business up a bit too fast to keep up with even the lesser quality we've come to expect from DHGate vendors.

Totally agree with what you are saying about getting a better feel for glass from all these Chinese pieces, and now feeling like stepping up the game a little. Although I have about a half dozen decent Chinese pieces (and a few better US ones) I find I keep going back to the same few. GB187 being the most frequent of the Chinese ones. Maybe time for a new thread of "Reasonably Priced Bubbler; $150 - $300"? Maybe even more like $400. This GB187 has definitely whet my interest to see how a real Mobius Ion compares! Or, maybe even a Reti.

I ordered a kathy and steven same time and after a week the kathy was in u.s. and Stevens was still being processed..then when I messaged them Jane said it was being mailed that day..and now it's been mailed..geez.

My first order from Steven, a fc-187v1 came broken. The replacement (still v1) wasn't bad enough to bitch about but I never use it. Draw is too restricted for the Lotus due to a poor perc and the perc is also too high in the can. Maybe it will be better with the Zion when I get it with it's better (expected) airflow.

I got a FC-UFO that I am happy with despite the joint being too deep, the top surface slightly concave and the MP joint being just slightly too low. Adapters make it quite usable and it is currently my goto piece.

The other pieces I want from him (like the fc-1000) are more difficult to make well and I would be nervous about getting them from him, tho their reviews are generally good. When it's time for something new I will reevaluate...

alltoreup said:

My FC-1000 has developed a crack above the matrix perc going into two of the pillars. Doesn't affect function but will only get bigger. Bummer. When it came it was virtually flawless. Keep your eye open on these new Steven pieces, everyone. Mine had only been rinsed out a couple times and sat on one of those silicone hexagon trivets its whole life. I don't think it's even been bumped. Oh well. I'm on vacation starting today and it wasn't going anyway haha.

On a side note: I am PBWing( yeah it's a verb) my FC 710 and noticed that the piece will hold water all the way up to the stoppered mouthpiece without pushing water out the open male joint. Pretty nifty. It's defying gravity. Water is higher up than the open outlet.

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Hey brother,
Bummed, just noticed my matrix perc (FC-1000) has a circular crack running around it and where the floor is that the pillars connect to on the outside of the can is a slight bulge where the floor sits has stress cracks about a 1/4 " 3 of them. Wonder if we should hit him up and see what he says, I went to check mine after reading your post and mine was fine, looked today and BALLS!! it was cracked Mission Impossible self destructing rigs,hmmm I didnt sign up for that

I placed an order for the FC-1000 just a couple days ago... Fingers crossed so hard that I don't have any of these issues it would be heartbreaking.

ou812? said:

Hey brother,
Bummed, just noticed my matrix perc (FC-1000) has a circular crack running around it and where the floor is that the pillars connect to on the outside of the can is a slight bulge where the floor sits has stress cracks about a 1/4 " 3 of them. Wonder if we should hit him up and see what he says, I went to check mine after reading your post and mine was fine, looked today and BALLS!! it was cracked Mission Impossible self destructing rigs,hmmm I didnt sign up for that

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Two is better than one for sure but it will be next week before I'm in a position to start snapping pics and sending messages.

Steve, Steve, Steve..... You know this ain't the first time we've had to put Cowboy's ass off his High Horse
EDIT: As a matter of fact, is there anyway we can get a tally of people who've gotten less than satisfactory results from an order with Steve? 1 ) HERE

well that's a bit lynchy of you sir. on the forum you're mainly going to hear from people looking to vent or get help after a bad experience. I mean I never call Comcast to tell am my picture quality was great when steph curry blew it tonight, but if I lost picture and didn't see it, you know I'd be all on their phone giving them hell. lol

but seriously I'm scared now not my FC-1000 I've been taking it all over town and everyone is smitten with my Chinese beast. if mine dies I'm replacing it asap. oh hey you guys are aware of the nasty pressure sweep you can create with this thing If you start using a stopper right? this isn't a normal tube, don't closed stopper this thing without drawing air out of the piece. idk the physics behind it but it can do this shotgun chug thing that's rather violent depending on how you cap in cap it and shake it up. it's gnarly it happened to be once it made a dearth gulp then it ejaculated. since then I stick to just filling with ISO then blowing and drawing mostly. some shaking but no plugging, I am almost certainly crazy but I m pretty sure I'm not making this up haha

oh and I use whip adapter from my evo less direct heat less awkward stress vs cloud buddy inverted. work perfext with the whip tube wrapped clockwise around and under the mouth piece from the FC-1000 where my evo sits to the left of my pillar and the connection feels very natural. I pull it off the vape and it dangles anywhere without issue. officially spoiled by my 63 dollar import. haha I'm sure as calculated as I've been if it's shoddy mine will break as I cannot stop using it

Cannabis Connoisseur said:

Steve, Steve, Steve..... You know this ain't the first time we've had to put Cowboy's ass off his High Horse
EDIT: As a matter of fact, is there anyway we can get a tally of people who've gotten less than satisfactory results from an order with Steve? 1 ) HERE

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Yep I'm on that list. In our last conversation he was rather offended when I told he had a vast array of excuses for his problems.

I guess that is the two sides of the coin with him. On one hand he has the most innovative and interesting designs and on the other hand he has poor quality control, ordinary customer service imo, higher prices and erratic delivery. I also think he is less than honest. But opinions are just like ...

For what it's worth, I've ordered the FC-mini and the straight fab, both from Stevenlmz79 and am please as can be with both. Both came in bomber packaging, though my straight fab was wet when I unboxed it, which was strange.

Craftsmanship on both is great, flame polished percs (I think) even bases, everything lines up, straight tubing, no flaws, marks, cracks. Fc-mini I got in mid April and straight fab I got a week ago.

Will post pics when I'm not slammed at work (soon hopefully)