Aromazap/Myrtlezap/CeramicRockZap

Music to my ears, good buddy. I'm excited to try this out. I owned an HerbalAire for a good long time and spent a lot of time with an Extreme, a DBV, a Volcano, a VaporBrothers, and I still own a VaporGenie. Hoping this is the thing for me now... seems to fit my "take a couple hits after work" lifestyle. Too bad there aren't any of those beautiful pieces left like what Madcap got, but hey - it fits my living room decor, so there's that.

I'll post up what I think of it when it comes in Weds/Thurs. Thanks Rick.

the MZ rulez

Rick said:

Yup, one of those darker ones went to Virginia. A Primo with a clear Tooty and a 3 hole stem holder besides all the regular stuff.

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It will nicely compliment the other two that are here already

Although I would imagine that we have more Virginians on your list of whos who.

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It is the correct transformer Goodlife. It will take your Zap to thicker vapor during break in.
Keep in mind all Myrtle wood is not created equal as far as wood density goes. Myrtle wood density varies but is all in an acceptable range for log vapes and with time they all make vapor equally.
Soon we will keep a Zap inventory and they will all be thoroughly broke in, time-wise, when we ship. This is the current plan anyway.

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I've had my zap a couple weeks now and love it! One issue though. Every now and then I'll notice the unit isn't as warm as it usually is, and it'll produce very weak hits because of this. I live in a very modern condo (built in 2008) and know the electricity/wiring here to be top notch so that can't be the problem. What would cause the unit to periodically lose some of it's warmth only to regain it a few hours later?

Right now I just got home from work, and I'm dying to get baked - but the zap isn't getting hot enough to get any decent pulls ;(

FWIW, I have the 12v adapter.

flouris and Goodlife101

I've had my zap for a few weeks and i was having the same problems at first. Even so i got a 13.5v from Rick. The 13.5 works alot better for me in some situations. Make sure the stuff your using is really dry, i left mine uncovered for a night.

Another thing, ive been consistently using the 13.5v until a got a new stash. This stuff is med grade and vapes WAY different than the last stuff i had even though i didnt think it was THAT much worse. With this stuff, i notice i am preferring the 12v and getting the same results i was with the 13.5. I guess this could be a combination of the herb and my zap breaking in a bit more...

Goodlife im not totally sure on the polarity thing, but i think the tip should be positive says so the diagram on my 13.5v

flouris try the beer cozy trick if its still not warm enuff may b 13 volt will help w/ very slo draw perhaps almost half minute

Crazy, I changed the thermostat from 69F to 73F about half an hour ago, and now it's hitting fine.

I can only presume it's going to be more difficult to use the zap in the winter months... perhaps this would be a good kitschy business idea - zap coats!

Ya i forgot to mention the ambient temperature really affects these the temp on these vapes and the kozy trick works quite well.

I think you'll find your zap will be much more broken in and running hotter by the winter.

Do you think the 13.5v would help speed up the break-in process?

The other day I recieved a very nice 17 inch SSV ice catcher w/ four arm tree perc, and wouldnt you have it, my ssv broke the very same day. Screw snapped off inside the main cylinder base and now it wobbles around, only held by one screw. So while its out for repairs I've been ripping my Zap out of the IC and its just heavenly.
btw, luck would have it Rick reduces the price on trip stem holders a couple days after ordering

flouris, when I first got my Zap, I encountered some of the difficulties you seem to be having. That was the original design and did need the 13.5 in the beginning. And while I did use the 13.5 on my new Zap, which is the new design, for about a day, after that I found it made the hits too hot and harsh. I don't use it on either now.

Other variables (including a learning curve) can change the amount of vapor with your hit. Ambient temperature can have an effect on how warm it runs. Dryness and variety of herb and how you pack your stem can also have an effect on how it draws. Your electrical current can also vary, depending on other demands on the circuit. And, as Rick has pointed out, the density of your particular Zap can have an effect in the beginning.

Bottom line, I think you will find with practice and a little time, your Zaps will be cranking out nice hits every time. And yes flouris, I do see a little cottage industry in Zap coats!

Hey Kip, your little table looks like my main work table in the shop. Disorganized chaos I call it but everything is all there when you need it. I see you have one of those curly blond girls. Those Myrtles have a cultural problem in that they are slow to get hot. Their bodies are hard but their sweet spot takes time to get to full romp ability. Once they get there watch out, as curly blondes are plenty hot. Some just take a bit more time, like the slow hand thing.
Gees, what kind of a morning am I in for?????? A treat I think as I got Zaplady some TV back last night after 5 days with none.
Yes, Kip, I picked up 3 more bucks from you and one other customer on the stem holder which I will make up next time either of you come to our store. Pricing is not real easy for me as the balance I try to work out between the capitalist and the customer will sometimes change. After I made a few, I wanted to keep them under 20 bucks and the difference between a two hole and a three hole is nada, The singles I can do from smaller wood pieces so they are a bit less.
Center positive for DC transformers if you have an led. If no led, it does not matter as the heater is bisexual and gets hot both ways.
What is it they say about men in the morning? How fun to be alive.

Hi
I thought I would chime in and maybe get thoughts from the MZ experts. I am an experienced log type user. I have the PD and a couple of MZ's. What I find interesting is that the other day I used the PD stem in the MZ in error and got large clouds of vapor similar to what I get on the PD. When I use the MZ stems it works great but there is much less visible vapor. The effect however is without question there. I previously assumed that the MZ's temp is lower and that the vaporization was a bit gentler. Now I do not know.

Also are there any others on here that have both and can give it a go?

Peace

just got my new zap today! Good thing I was getting really tired of using the DBV, which was eating through my goods

I don't seem to have any problems with mine, its hitting the way I want it to and my clouds are plenty big!

pics coming up soon

oh yeah Thanks Rick!

you rock man, best customer service in a while

I just wanted to come back and say my piece. My verdict if you will. I've owned a MZ for a several months now at least. It broke in VERY well. I know I have an all-round Vaping monster for-LIFE. Energy effient and Au-naturAL, need I say more? I just wanted to thank you Rick for the work and if by for some freak accident I need another I will be re-ordering. In fact I will be highly recommending them to my friends. Now I'm off to order a few add-ons

Quick question, does the vapor stem need to be pulled from the unit in between hits?

You should leave the stem in the unit between pulls. The stem needs to get warmed up and stay warm. That's the reason the second pull is so much better than the first.

OHH! Haha that makes sense. So it only creates vapor when you pull?

xenith said:

OHH! Haha that makes sense. So it only creates vapor when you pull?

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In short - yes. The heating element isnt what vaporizes your meds. The hot AIR passing over the heating element (and ultimately your meds) when you are drawing is what vapes them.

Enough jibbah-jabbah. Im off to get vaked.

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You should leave the stem in the unit between pulls. The stem needs to get warmed up and stay warm. That's the reason the second pull is so much better than the first.

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Really? For me, the first hit is the biggest, the 2nd hit is usually somewhere between "barely there" and "probably not there". I read most people were getting 2-3 pulls from one loaded stem but I seem to get about 1.2 hits per stem. My herb is about as dry and well ground as possible fwiw. I think I'm going to order the 13.5v. The empty altoids tin with all my ABV is still more green than I'd like and it smells more like fresh herb than I'd like - but it still definitely has that vaped popcorn smell.

flouris, the number of hits you get really depends on the herb. Some grades vape better than others. The first hit will always be the biggest and most noticeable. No matter what the grade herb, I always get at least 3 hits, but have gotten as many as 7. Not huge hits, but definite vapor.
Also, often people think the stem is cashed, when actually there are several more hits. Have you tried blowing into a light that is shining away from you or into the sunlight? This takes a little practice to get the right light but once you have it down, it's foolproof.
As far as leaving the stem in, I usually do, although there are times I will clear the stem of vapor and put it back in. Your abv should be fairly brown when your stem is cashed, but not dark brown. Fixed temp vapes will not get your abv as brown as a desk top/whip type vape. Often, people will say they can get one or two more hits from their whip style vape from the abv of the log style vapes.
I know the norm is to have your herb dry when vaping with these vapes, but often I'm in a place where the humidity doesn't allow this, no matter how hard I try. Also, some med grade herb that I fell into is pretty moist and gummy. There hasn't been a decline in hits with the moister herb, however. So I'm not sure that is a factor. Grind, however, is and your herb should be the consistency of fresh ground pepper.
In any case, the 13.5 is a small investment and if you think it will make a difference, there's no harm in trying. Just be sure to switch back to the 12v when not vaping.