Discontinued Elevape SV

I'm just gonna leave it alone for now. What temp settings are best for faster draws

kaisersosay415 said:

What temp settings are best for faster draws

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Higher ones. Fast draws lower your vaping temp.

kaisersosay415 said:

I'm just gonna leave it alone for now. What temp settings are best for faster draws

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Yeah higher temps if you draw fast enough, just be careful for more combustion risk if you draw too slow accidentally (this can happen after taking too many hits from esv in a session... get too stoned and forget)

kaisersosay415 said:

I've been able to change and save temps.charged while I was at work through wall adapter. Light turned green so im thinking done and was able to take some good rips. So I plug it in my mac get the temps saved but no Battery reading. Nothing lit up. Is mine busted.

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Having a mac I find it's very picky about the usb mirco cable. I have 2 it doesn't work on and another cable that works fine. The 2 bad one's do charge it. Do you happen to see it show battery for a spilt second when you first plug it in cause that what my bad cables do.

Highly suggest trying another cable.

HerbieVonVapster said:

Having a mac I find it's very picky about the usb mirco cable. I have 2 it doesn't work on and another cable that works fine. The 2 bad one's do charge it. Do you happen to see it show battery for a spilt second when you first plug it in cause that what my bad cables do.

Highly suggest trying another cable.

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That's exactly what happens.

The thing with this vape is, when the honeymoon period is over. There are several things to nit-pick. I wouldn't go as far as saying the device is unreliable but it is none-the-less unpredictable, or, fussy.
The concept is amazing. It is fantastic to be able to take a toke anytime, anywhere.
I don't mind the stirring so much as the cleaning. This thing may be a bigger pain than the Pax in so much that it will not perform if not kept immaculate.
I think it is also safe to say that the included charger is garbage. If you've got an iPhone charger or the like, use that.
Otherwise you're never going to see a green light! Charges off of a computer in no time, so the cable is good.
I can't help but shake the feeling that iPuff wont be around a year from now. I don't like the fact that they are letting their units be sold below cost. There's inconsistencies here with the serial numbers and with keeping early ones for collectors.
There's not enough manufacturer presence on this thread, you know, like to clarify the questions that keep coming up and that aren't answered in the documentation.
Like I said, the concept of instant gratification is incredible. I hope iPuff continues with the concept and creates 'the killer vape'. If not, then I am still grateful for them bringing this device to market and moving the technology forward for someone else to expand on.

I find that if I use lower temps, I rarely need to stir. Just pack it loosely.

Less stirring = Less bits & dust = Less cleaning

I get a good 6 - 8 nice draws before I even look now... nudge it around, but it's mostly done anyway.

tripwire said:

The concept is amazing. It is fantastic to be able to take a toke anytime, anywhere.

I think it is also safe to say that the included charger is garbage. If you've got an iPhone charger or the like, use that.

I can't help but shake the feeling that iPuff wont be around a year from now. I don't like the fact that they are letting their units be sold below cost.

Like I said, the concept of instant gratification is incredible. I hope iPuff continues with the concept and creates 'the killer vape'. If not, then I am still grateful for them bringing this device to market and moving the technology forward for someone else to expand on.

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I agree, ESV has delivered performance nobody else has been able to. Pretty cool, alright.

I disagree it's safe to say 'the included charger is garbage'. Garbage is useless, even a liability. The supplied charger just slow (as has been discussed), it's not garbage or useless.

Hard to tell what the future will bring, but ESV has been out over a year now, and he's made and sold over 1000 units it seems? I would hold off with the fork, I don't think it's done yet?

Despite what you and I feel about the pricing it's really none of our business I think. May I ask just how is it you know what the cost is so you can be so sure they're being sold below cost? I suspect the maker never took a loss on his wholesale prices (unless he wanted to for whatever reason). If a dealer discounts his stock to recover the cash tied up in a 'slow mover', that's his business I believe and far from any sin I see. "Carrying too much in inventory" is a very common theme in failed businesses. Such limits are typically part of the contract at the wholesale level, the maker has no say after the fact unless it's spelled out clearly before and even then has very limited recourse. I get it it's upsetting to buy a unit at 'a fair price' only to find the same thing cheaper afterwards. Capitalism works that way sometimes. I paid 'list price' for an Arizer Air for my brother in law for Christmas, a couple months later it's less than half what I paid 'all over town'. Do I like that? No, of course not. But I see nothing wrong with the way it turned out.

I fully agree with the last statement, Joe took a huge personal risk to bring this product to market it seems, I hope he's appropriately rewarded for that (I'm doing my modest part there, I own two). If it's successful in the marketplace, more progress will surely follow as other Capitalists pursue the illusive profit motive.

Enchantre said:

I find that if I use lower temps, I rarely need to stir. Just pack it loosely.

Less stirring = Less bits & dust = Less cleaning

I get a good 6 - 8 nice draws before I even look now... nudge it around, but it's mostly done anyway.

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Well put again, Lady. I too tend to not argue with it, insisting it do it as I want, but rather try to see how it performs with different techniques. I get it many are not 'wired that way'.

ESV never claimed to be a party vape, or offer 'huge clouds' and all that. Rather it offers what many other makers have claimed but miserably failed to deliver. And domestically made to boot. Not for everyone for sure, but IMO well worth considering. Ironically, I think Grasshopper is the closest competitor? It may have some shortcomings on some guys lists, but in a world where there are basically no serious competitors......... In that market I think 'it's the best game in town'......and I'm grateful the market gives me ESV as an option, which I can pass on if I choose.

Thanks.

OF

OF said:

I think 'it's the best game in town'......and I'm grateful the market gives me ESV as an option

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I agree and this is why I purchased one. New and existing vapes are regularly being introduced and improved upon. It's a great time for vapists. I have no qualms with the price I paid. I look at it as contributing to the advancement of the technology. This vape filled a very specific need: instant convection heat-up, portable, and discrete. I realize it's not a party vape. I've got the Pax and the Solo for that.
No, I wanted something to approximate my E-nano in a portable unit and this is what's available today.

Tried to adjust the temps today for my esv using the app..unfortunately it's not working.
I've tried my mac and my windows laptop and i've downloaded and used apps from..
elevapesmart.com
elevapesmart.eu
ipuffusa.com/elevape_sv.php

thinking i might have to flash it and reinstall the right software again..anyone verify the most up to date version?

EDIT:
reached out to Joe..elevapesmart.eu has the most up to date app.
My unit is one of the firsts so i will need to send it back for a manual firmware update..probably will send the new one as well to be safe.

hey guys so just got my elevape, she is fully charged now dill a little bowl on fac settings. slight vapor still kinda roboty taste not sure how to describe it. anyways just wondering about the app biz, my computer doesnt seem to want to recognize the device or vice versa, not sure what to do from here i have two versions of the app. 2.0.0 and 2.1.1 or something like that. thanks fo the help

OF said:

Rather it offers what many other makers have claimed but miserably failed to deliver.

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What are the claims on which other makers are failing miserably to deliver?

OF said:

Ironically, I think Grasshopper is the closest competitor? It may have some shortcomings on some guys lists, but in a world where there are basically no serious competitors........

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Ironical, yes, considering that the only way to get a GH at this point is to be a reviewer who runs a for-profit review site. I would say that the FF is actually the "closest competitor." In fact, I would say that the FF is actually the obvious superior, but... of course, I've used both units.

OF said:

In that market I think 'it's the best game in town'

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Guess it depends on which games you've played.

OF said:

I disagree it's safe to say 'the included charger is garbage'. Garbage is useless, even a liability. The supplied charger just slow (as has been discussed), it's not garbage or useless.

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Technically, I guess my supplied charger wasn't "garbage." But, it was a piece of shit that I would never use. Technically speaking.

EveryDayAmnesiac said:

What are the claims on which other makers are failing miserably to deliver?

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I was thinking instant, controlled temperature convection vaping.

And no, I don't think the FF fits that definition. OK vape and all, but not really the same thing I think.

Glad you agree, "garbage" is not an accurate description. It does meet specs, has all the correct approvals and does the job intended. If you want to use another one, more power to you but I don't think it's fair to discourage potential buyers with inaccurate descriptions.

OF

OF said:

I was thinking instant, controlled temperature convection vaping.

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Actually, you control the CONVECTION temp of the FF through basic technique, rather than the vague "general" settings that the ESV actually offers.

Seems to work much better for me, since unless I have the heater coil positioned right, and the screens positioned right, and have stirred enough, I can combust on the supposedly "controlled temperature" ESV at 305 F.

Guess that's part of the technique?

305 F ... right.

EveryDayAmnesiac said:

Actually, you control the CONVECTION temp of the FF through basic technique, rather than the vague "general" settings that the ESV actually offers.

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Convection doesn't make it unique, there are a lot of good convection vapes out there. In portables, AFAIK, ESV is the only regulated one? The only one with its own temperature control?

I get it you don't like inaccuracy in delivered temperatures, but FF offers no clue the delivered temperature at all? ESV is a repeatable, regulated vape. IMO who really cares what the exact temperature is if the vapor is right and happens 'automatically'? Most guys, I think, find a setting they like and stick with it. ESV really doesn't need special skills, no 'learning curve'. IMO that's a big plus. I have literally handed it to new folks with 'just hit it' as the only instruction. With good results. First hit.

Glad you like FF, you should use what you enjoy. When I'm in the mood for that kind of action I tend to Cera/T1 or VG/VM for a nice break from electricity. True VM is conduction, but does offer outstanding taste and performance in a fun package. More than most others, due I think to design (being able to easily and completely clean it in load changes). it starts each load 'fresh'.

OF

OF said:

In portables, AFAIK, ESV is the only regulated one?

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I don't find it to be as regulated as you claim. With so much emphasis on coil placement, screen placement, AND inhalation technique, I don't find it to be temperature controlled in the way you say. Your posts may need some asterisks.

OF said:

IMO who really cares what the exact temperature is if the vapor is right and happens 'automatically'?

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Then what does it matter if the temp is "controlled" the way the ESV supposedly is? The way the FF warms up to temp is the same way EVERY TIME. The vapor is "right" and happens automatically.

I've handed the ESV to new folks and watched them get nothing, or combust. So what?

The ESV DOES need special skills. Coil placement, screen placement, practice with inhalation - maybe that's easy for YOU, but that doesn't mean it has no learning curve. Saying the ESV has no learing curve is wildly irresponsible, IMO.

The FF warms up to temp to the same temp in the same way every time. That is a REPEATABLE, REGULATED VAPE. I have owned my ESV longer than you, and to this day, I NEVER know what I'm going to get with any hit, no matter the temp setting, the inhalation technique, the grind, or whatever the fuck else. I find nothing about the "temp control" of the ESV to actually be useful in real life. My hits are rarely repeatable.

The ESV temp control is shit, IMO.

I think you writing love letters about how the ESV regulates temp is not hepful. I think it ENCOURAGES potential buyers with an inaccurate description.

You tell one side of the story. I'm happy to tell the other.

EveryDayAmnesiac said:

I don't find it to be as regulated as you claim. With so much emphasis on coil placement, screen placement, AND inhalation technique, I don't find it to be temperature controlled in the way you say. Your posts may need some asterisks.



Then what does it matter if the temp is "controlled" the way the ESV supposedly is? The way the FF warms up to temp is the same way EVERY TIME. The vapor is "right" and happens automatically.

I've handed the ESV to new folks and watched them get nothing, or combust. So what?

The ESV DOES need special skills. Coil placement, screen placement, practice with inhalation - maybe that's easy for YOU, but that doesn't mean it has no learning curve. Saying the ESV has no learing curve is wildly irresponsible, IMO.

The FF warms up to temp to the same temp in the same way every time. That is a REPEATABLE, REGULATED VAPE. I have owned my ESV longer than you, and to this day, I NEVER know what I'm going to get with any hit, no matter the temp setting, the inhalation technique, the grind, or whatever the fuck else. I find nothing about the "temp control" of the ESV to actually be useful in real life. My hits are rarely repeatable.

The ESV temp control is shit, IMO.

I think you writing love letters about how the ESV regulates temp is not hepful. I think it ENCOURAGES potential buyers with an inaccurate description.

You tell one side of the story. I'm happy to tell the other.

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I am somebody who is very technically minded and honestly, the ESV was so exciting to me when I first read about it. I love the desktop OS based usb app functionality (as bluetooth and phone apps are just a pain in the ass and too many variables can go wrong in terms of app compatibility).

However, I gotta say that EDA's experience and the fact that the ESV seems to be able to accidentally combust was a dealbreaker.

I am super confident that I could tweak an ESV to get it to vaporize perfectly. However, I am also not prepared to spend my time fiddling around with a device I've spent vape amounts of money on!

Since I bought the d-nail and then Mighty, I have decided that I will never buy another vape that doesn't just work. If there is any significant chance of accidental combustion, I am not interested. If results are inconsistent, I am not interested. If you need to stir the load - you guessed it - I'm not interested!

Still, I always hope for a day when the ESV can be updated to the point that it 'just works' without any chance of combustion or need for stirring. If the performance was consistent, the ESV gave full extraction with no stirring and no chance of combustion - I would have bought this vape long ago! It really is a very attractive device in most other ways.

Still, I agree that these warnings should be front and centre for the sake of all those prospective buyers who might be thinking the ESV is the holy grail, which on first glance, it appears to be!

EveryDayAmnesiac said:

I don't find it to be as regulated as you claim. With so much emphasis on coil placement, screen placement, AND inhalation technique, I don't find it to be temperature controlled in the way you say. Your posts may need some asterisks.

That is a REPEATABLE, REGULATED VAPE. I have owned my ESV longer than you, and to this day, I NEVER know what I'm going to get with any hit, no matter the temp setting, the inhalation technique, the grind, or whatever the fuck else.

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Hey, you get an opinion.

I also think you don't know what regulated is? ESV senses the heater temp by IR. It changes drive to regulate, that is automatically control the input (battery power) to get the right output (coil temperature). It's the difference between Cruse Control and a hand throttle on your car. One is 'closed loop' the other open.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_control

Again, I'm sorry you're not happy with yours. I think there's a lot of guys who like theirs and have not trouble at all getting the results they want.

OF

OF said:

Hey, you get an opinion.

I also think you don't know what regulated is? ESV senses the heater temp by IR. It changes drive to regulate, that is automatically control the input (battery power) to get the right output (coil temperature).

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I'm saying the ESV doesn't regulate shit. Ever try blowing through it with the top off and just watch the coil? I see mine go 1/4 red, maybe half red, maybe full red - on the same style of pulls.

But, maybe I just don't have the screws tightened to just the right stiffness. Or maybe I'm not using the right screwdriver.

Nothing is being "regulated," except vaguely by my inhalation technique. It's all up to me and how I hit it - like the FF.

It does NOT get the "right" output (coil temperature), in my many months of usage, unless I'm hitting it right with all other variables set right - and even then. Maybe you just hit it "better" than I do. The "regulation" happens with each individual user finding the right technique - like the FF.

IME, the ESV is like the FF - it comes down to inhalation technique, not "regulated" temp control.

I also think you don't know what no learning curve is?

EveryDayAmnesiac said:

I also think you don't know what no learning curve is?

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Please keep this discussion respectful. Sarcastic remarks do not help your cause, EDA. You are also getting dangerously close to product bashing, so just a heads up...

Keep it civil, folks.

EveryDayAmnesiac said:

I'm saying the ESV doesn't regulate shit.

IME, the ESV is like the FF - it comes down to inhalation technique, not "regulated" temp control.

I also think you don't know what no learning curve is?

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Again, our opinions differ. We can't seem to agree on technical issues. I've explained my opinion that ESV can be adjusted to deliver good results first hit with no instructions past 'hit it'. To me that's no learning curve......or as close as we can realistically ask.

We're not really advancing the understanding of ESV (or vaping in general) and frankly I've grown tired of it getting personal when logic fails.

Thanks for the time. You win, I don't know what I'm talking about?

OF

OF said:

Again, our opinions differ. We can't seem to agree on technical issues. I've explained my opinion that ESV can be adjusted to deliver good results first hit with no instructions past 'hit it'. To me that's no learning curve......or as close as we can realistically ask.

We're not really advancing the understanding of ESV (or vaping in general) and frankly I've grown tired of it getting personal when logic fails.

Thanks for the time. You win, I don't know what I'm talking about?

OF

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And my opinion is that you're completely wrong. But ... I didn't feel the need to report anything, so I guess YOU win.

The ESV CAN be adjusted ... by a lot of fucking tinkering. Good results for a first hit ... as long as it's been tinkered with, as you have.

I think we actually were advancing the discussion of the ESV, but, frankly, I've grown tired of FC'ers resorting to "giving up" when logic fails.

Thanks for your time. Too bad we couldn't continue the conversation...

Several off topic posts have been deleted. Please keep this thread on topic and take any personal issues to PM.

rekrab said:

hey guys so just got my elevape, she is fully charged now dill a little bowl on fac settings. slight vapor still kinda roboty taste not sure how to describe it. anyways just wondering about the app biz, my computer doesnt seem to want to recognize the device or vice versa, not sure what to do from here i have two versions of the app. 2.0.0 and 2.1.1 or something like that. thanks fo the help

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Can not remember robotic taste from my esv...

i am getting good clouds with grinding and filling up the bowl (but you don t have to pack it tight) .... i am using 315 335 and 365 as temps and a slower draw...(but in the end you have to adjust the temps to your own drawing ) also i start with amstrong pull so that he coil gets hot stop drwaing and then draw again ... i also don not care about te red led and the 8 or 10 sec it gives you to draw... you can also try to adjust your coil as mentioned in this thread....

also my esv really works with the app if iam using the short usb cable which was included ...once i tried he usb from my samsung and i could not use the app... do not ask me why...

btka said:

also my esv really works with the app if iam using the short usb cable which was included ...once i tried he usb from my samsung and i could not use the app... do not ask me why...

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That depends, I think, on what the cable was designed to do. Not all USB cables are created equally......

USB has four defined 'lines' (five actual connections in come connector formats). They are ground, plus 5 Volts, data coming from the computer and data to the computer. If the cable is to be used for programing and similar stuff (like say loading a mp3 player or playing a CD) the two data lines must be there (obviously), but if it's only to charge something that's not the case. You only need two to charge.

So the maker can save money using less copper by leaving those two data lines out.

Then comes another wrinkle, some devices (like I think your Samsung whatever and my new Windows tablet) can charge faster than normal USB ports allow. They 'signal' this by 'short circuiting' (connecting) the two data lines together, meaning obviously if that's done in the cable it too won't transmit and receive data. Normally this is done in the wall charger but amongst the embarrassingly large collection of USB cables I have I have two such from somewhere. Most are 'normal' and work ESV fine, but some cables will not for either of those reasons.

I think you'd have to test each cable to be sure if it will read/program ESV, but any "USB cable" you buy should work fine.

OF