Hammer vs E-Nano

Hey guys! So after searching for a couple weeks I cannot find an answer to this so I finally quit putting it off and made an account.

I've had an Arizer Solo since about October, and I had an SSV for a month or two until it burnt up in a house fire. The fire investigators were, um...confused when they "found a soup can sized metal cylinder with wires and screws sticking out of it." Haha. Fortunately, the solo is a tank and since it was in a room that wasn't entirely burnt it powered right up despite being covered in ash and water. So that's my cannabis vaping experience as of now, but enough back story.

Anyways, I'm looking for a vape that hits similar to my SSV while saving me herb at the same time. This screams log vape and the E-nano looks fantastic, but recently I saw the hammer vaporizer. I'm really impressed by its compact design, butane power, and the huge clouds I hear it's capable of, but I can't find any info on its efficiency other than "very efficient." So is there anyone out there who has tried both and has something to say about the efficiency of each? If the hammer can save me more bud than my solo then I'm probably gonna go for it unless the E-nano could save me significantly more. Thanks in advance for your help!

Edit: Sorry if I'm breaking any rules of if this is on the wrong forum, I'm in a hurry and I didn't have a chance to read the rules.

I don't know how the Nano could save more than the Hammer.

Really? That's great to hear, I've always read that the nano is stupid efficient, so it would be fantastic if the hammer was even more so. How large would you say the bowl is on the hammer, or rather how much herb do you typically pack it with for a 1 person session?

For myself its about .03-.05, for others I will give them .05-.1g because they are probably less likely to be able to control it as well as me.

Wouldn't load more than .1g in a normal Hammer bowl. There is also conduction+convection which will involve making tiny tiny pellets to cram up the heater.

Wow! That's awesome! I'm sold then! Whay do you mean by convection vs conduction though? Would you mind clarifying that a bit please?

Well they are two different beasts.

The Hammer heats up MUCH faster, This means you can switch temperatures easily.

Meanwhile the Nano heats up much much slower (figure on 30 minutes from a cold start, 5 minutes to switch temps).

Never weighted the loads when I tried the Hammer, but they were quite small (and tasty!).

The Nano can be efficient, it too has conduction and convection properties. I typically loaded around 0.1g, much less than my LSV.

Overall, I think you need to decide if you want portability or not. Also I feel like the Nano was easier to pair with water, so if you think you'll be using water a lot, you might want the Nano over the Hammer.

Either way both are good vape choices.

Sgt. Pepper said:

Wow! That's awesome! I'm sold then! Whay do you mean by convection vs conduction though? Would you mind clarifying that a bit please?

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There are three modes of heat transfer in the universe - conduction, convection and radiation. Most vaporizers typically use mostly conduction or mostly convection to cook the herb (though note, many vapes use a blend of the two). Some prefer pure convection, I personally don't care as long as it's a good vape overall.

Convection plus conduction. But you can do them separately.

Here's a couple videos, one I load the heat exchanger (hammer itsefl), the other I have the stem already preloaded for convection.

Conduction+Convection

Convection

*Bonus Pure Conduction*

Ratchett said:

Overall, I think you need to decide if you want portability or not. Also I feel like the Nano was easier to pair with water, so if you think you'll be using water a lot, you might want the Nano over the Hammer.

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Definitely recommend non lock on stems or the Underdog gongs for water, the default lock on design isn't that great IMO. And the silicone slip is bad sizing.

Convection is heating the herb by hot air passing through it to extract the goodies. Conduction is a hot surface passing heat to the herb to extract the goodies. Hope that makes sense. Welcome to the forum!


Edit: ninja'd x2!

Ratchett said:

Meanwhile the Nano heats up much much slower (figure on 30 minutes from a cold start, 5 minutes to switch temps).

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I don't think so. A 10 minute heat up is achievable by starting at 9-10 then lowering after 5 minutes or so. Also, I bump up 1 heat setting in about 30 seconds, unless your talking about going from 4 to 7.

Oh no, let me clarify. I'm very familiar with the difference between conduction and convection, but I'm not sure how you would switch between the two with the hammer. I've already got the potable niche filled with my solo, and I'm mostly just looking for a vape that hits harder, is more efficient, and didn't narrowly survive a house fire. Both vapes qualify for all of those, so really I guess I'm just looking for the most efficient vape.

By the way, thanks so much for the fast replies! Other forums usually take a couple hours to start posting this much, so this has been very refreshing!

I can't speak for the Hammer, but I've found that I'm more conservative with my loads with the Underdog or Heat Island when paired with stainless steel or 10mm glass roasting tip than I ever was with my Nano or the aforementioned vapes when paired standard glass stem.

The E-Nano does lend itself to smaller loads but from my experience it does NOT set the standard for conservatism.

Regardless of what you choose, you can't go wrong with any current-gen logs (Nano, UD, HI)

Can use all my Underdog accessories including ss tips with my Hammer.

Hammer also hits identical to the UD except quicker heat up and it's quicker to change temp like it was mentioned. Loading for conduction gives a stonier high and uses less herb.

Simply to alternate in conduction or convection for the Hammer one loads the stem for convection and the Hammer for conduction. If you are still looking for that answer.

That's good to know, but I try to support small businesses which is why I chose the E-nano out of the three. Especially since the owner of Epicvape is a member here and he seems to be a very professional and kind person. That and I'm not about to wait for a HI.

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That's good to know, but I try to support small businesses which is why I chose the E-nano out of the three. Especially since the owner of Epicvape is a member here and he seems to be a very professional and kind person. That and I'm not about to wait for a HI.

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The UD and Hammer are both small businesses. Underdogs are also handmade unlike the machined Nanos. All of the manufacturers are members here.

Thanks for clearing that up! I mostly vape since it helps my insomnia better than anything I've ever tried before and I am terrified of prescription sleep aids, so it looks like I'll be going conduction most of the time.

paytonpenn said:

The UD and Hammer are both small businesses. Underdogs are also handmade unlike the machined Nanos. All of the manufacturers are members here.

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Well then I stand corrected. Will look into the UD as well if I decide I want a log, but it's really looking like the clear winner is the hammer. Is there anyone who has experience with any of the three aforementioned logs and the hammer who disagrees?

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Well then I stand corrected. Will look into the UD as well if I decide I want a log, but it's really looking like the clear winner is the hammer. Is there anyone who has experience with any of the three aforementioned logs and the hammer who disagrees?

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I think the biggest issue is that they probably don't have any experience with conduction on the Hammer.

I will note that conduction on your Hammer will most likely not give you any usable abv if you like that stuff. You can also push it and combust, conduction isn't the best in flavor after the first hit but convection in the Hammer is still pretty hard to beat. If anything I highly recommend investing in UDs stems and a MFLB draw whip.

paytonpenn said:

I think the biggest issue is that they probably don't have any experience with conduction on the Hammer.

I will note that conduction on your Hammer will most likely not give you any usable abv if you like that stuff. You can also push it and combust, conduction isn't the best in flavor after the first hit but convection in the Hammer is still pretty hard to beat. If anything I highly recommend investing in UDs stems and a MFLB draw whip.

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Eh, no biggy there. I usually vape my bud to a coffee color on my solo anyways and I'm lucky to get a minor buzz from a handful of it. I do really like that I have the option to do either. Hammer it is then, and I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised with that with the lesser price tag. Thanks so much guys!

Does the mflb while fit the hammer?


mod note: Please don't hijack the thread. One topic per thread.

subway13029 said:

Does the mflb while fit the hammer?

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You may want to reword that, the MFLB whip is used as a gasket replacement for Underdog stems.

Do u cut some of the whip to attach the underdog stem to hammer?why would I reword it? It was a question..

subway13029 said:

Do u cut some of the whip to attach the underdog stem to hammer?why would I reword it? It was a question..

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It doesnt makes sense. You may want to re-read it.

I cut off tubing attach to Hammer then I can slide on UD stems.

Whip..it must have changed to while..I'm sorry..so it allows you to use the underdog stems? What is advantage of underdog stems..? My only complaint is its little harsh and that's with my eds tnt blood wood stem.

UD stems lock on better have better screens, lock on glass better, can fully support the weight of the Hammer.