Life Saber (LSV) by Elev8 Vehicles
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ataxian
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The LSV will kick your ass!
For me I found the NANO to be just right or me!
Then again I'm medical!
I'll get a LSV again however they consume and hit a bit harder!
I like joints better than vaporization however I don't have the lungs I once had!
TheBlazingBeast
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Exactly! Making the flat honeycomb design & into something more curved would create an even flow over the pack & reduce the chance of brown spots.
What were you thinking of @sweetherb ? I'd like something like a Luke Wilson "wagon wheel" slide with a tighter screen.
Carberated glass idea sounds interesting.
I like the idea of a better M2M, but short of a carb, I'm struggling to see what could be added...
I do actually have a carbed GonG being whipped up by @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd, but IMO a claisen/cloud buddy is really a pretty perfect setup with the LSV and m2m...
Those honeycomb screens look pretty useless to me - If I were to load that up with ground bud I'd expect a decent amount to get past those holes - leaving unvaped bud to dirty up my glass quicker...
So I'd still have to use a SS screen.
I've always thought a frit could make a cool "glass screen" for holding herb in a WPA, but the added drag and crazy amounts of cleaning it would require make it a bit impractical...
So far as I can tell, you can wedge a standard SSV wand screen into the base of ANY 18mm joint, just like the old school GonG SSV wands - there was no lip or anything to hold the screen, it just sits perfectly at the base of the 18mm joint.
Once I have my screen seated properly, it doesn't move at all
It stays put while stirring, and I never have to worry about it falling through or flipping over on me...
I don't even remove the screens once they've been seated - just throw the whole M2M+Screen in some ISO or PBW and it comes out clean
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for new accessories/ideas, I just don't see much improvement to be made on the WPA...
@Herb-nerd - If you guys do look into basket screens, I just wanna throw out there that I personally much prefer the VXL ELB style of big basket for herb with a little basket lid. It gives peace of mind that your herb can't get accidentally puffed out of the wpa by some blowback, and you can effectively just shake the basket to stir
The only downside seems to be that they're picky about the joints they'll fit into - if you've got a m2m "trained" to one particular joint, it can be really loose or really tight in other joints...
Some guys also just use the EQ basket screen and load herb into that, which is cool, but IMO doesn't really add much over a screen inside the WPA aside from the load being ~1cm closer to the heat...
I know the EQ basket can also be used as a lid of sorts when using the standard m2m setup - but that sorta leads to the ELB being the more desirable configuration.
Side note - I don't think the stock WPA gets enough love - it's a pretty cool design that works really well...
Sadly I dropped mine while cleaning and it broke (), and I haven't replaced it yet, but IMO it's the nicest way to use the LSV if you're not using a claisen...
So do you mean using the bigger basket screen (longer/deeper) with the more shallow small one as a lid?
I like this idea and will order the bigger basket screen for my own testing purposes!
I am a big fan of baskets
Don't know about the Evo, but @biohacker seemed to like his LSV more than his Cloud+ if I recall
Here's a link an FC buddy provided me with a while back.
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/f...ized-and-unsupported.11412/page-2#post-487922
I would choose the LSV over the Cloud, Cloud+, or EVO. I really wish I gave the WPA a shot before parting with my LSV. Well, I tried...twice, but was sent the wrong size both times...should have just bought a reducer! Then again, plenty rave more about the M2M over the WPA.
Tweak
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Have you seen my modded adjustable EQ screen?
I remove the metal clip so the screen fits into the wand/GonG completely. This way they are adjustable up and down the entire wand length and makes the basket a tiny bit bigger. I find the closer to the heating element the thicker the vapor, but backing it off a couple mms gives more flavor.
Another benefit to removing the metal clip is the basket will fit in just about any size bowl, I use one on my SSV wand, LSV GonG, and my Solo. My solo stem is the cleanest I've ever seen, not a single bit of dust or debris has made it through since switching.
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Question,
Is everyone using the top screen with the ELB? I'm finding I have to turn the temperature up when I have the screen on top, but I feel like it's helping to distribute the heat better (damn my heater element is crooked! lol)
Is everyone using the top screen with the ELB? I'm finding I have to turn the temperature up when I have the screen on top, but I feel like it's helping to distribute the heat better (damn my heater element is crooked! lol)
yeah i have posted your pictures to quite a few people on reddit recommending the sliding basket
I get this also, the screen acts almost like a heat shield and buffers the heat transfer to the bud.
It constantly absorbs thermal energy from the air-flow which keeps the temperature of the metal high, it also physically blocks the radiative energy a little but helps to interrupt the airflow somewhat and distribute heat a little more evenly (assuming the basket has no creases and is uniform). Upping the temperature to account for these losses is required - but logical
It constantly absorbs thermal energy from the air-flow which keeps the temperature of the metal high, it also physically blocks the radiative energy a little but helps to interrupt the airflow somewhat and distribute heat a little more evenly (assuming the basket has no creases and is uniform). Upping the temperature to account for these losses is required - but logical
Upon further examination (in brighter light!), I'm seeing it does help distribute the heat and create a more even cook. But I am still seeing a 'hot spot' near one corner. That's because my heater is crooked. Is there anything I can do to straighten it out. Or should I just deal with it lol
Tweak
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Yeah, just remove the HC and straighten it, or stick something through the intake to see if it moves and stays there.
Only thing holding the heating element is friction.
DorianGray
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thats interesting and would like to try it eventhough I'm happy with the wpa method. I wonder If I could do the same thing with the volcano screen since its area is much bigger than any screen I've ever seen.
I like the ELB method as well but I'm not a big fan of how the metal ELB touches the glass HC and I find there is a little loss of suction too. Maybe some kind of silicone washer around the top ring of the ELB could fix that.
@Tweak , how do you replace the load? using a chop stick or something to push the spent load + screen out? do you stir that at all?
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Tweak
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They should fit the WPA too,
Tap, blow, stir, any of the above. If its still warm I can grab the screen with a chop stick and pull it upwards and out pretty easily, that is my preferred method actually, pull the whole screen and load out into a shot glass. I rarely need to clean them either, the holes are too small to allow dust in.
I got my LSV today, For a "blemished" product, I see nothing wrong with it, so that's cool!
Made an ELB for my WPA, put the LSV on the UFO, OMG, I am RTG. I can use my standard SSV cover or the Oil Kit cover now so that will be fun to try with the shorty.
Happy Memorial Day Weekend everyone!!!!
Also, way to step up --->>> 7th Floor!.
Made an ELB for my WPA, put the LSV on the UFO, OMG, I am RTG. I can use my standard SSV cover or the Oil Kit cover now so that will be fun to try with the shorty.
Happy Memorial Day Weekend everyone!!!!
Also, way to step up --->>> 7th Floor!.
DorianGray
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I'm currently testing the crafty 's metal pad instead of a screen in the LSV's WPA. no grind, just a crumple. so far it's great, it fits perfectly
Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
I like the steady stream of new converts 
IMO the LSV has got to be at or near the top of the "budget but balls-to-the-wall powerful vape-bonger" category
IMO the LSV has got to be at or near the top of the "budget but balls-to-the-wall powerful vape-bonger" category
WOW.. I just loaded a tiny bit of herb on the screen in the adapter with a speck of oil on top and hit it slow on nearly full power. It totally blackened the herb evenly with super milk hits. Nice having good power options for sure. Then I put on the nail kit and took a small low temp dab and after coughing for about 10 minutes I am very ripped.
I did start to combust once a bit but backed off in time before it all went. That learning curve thing.
Before, playing with the soldering iron and SSV glass bits, I never had a good seal yet around the glass, but this HC fits very tight with a nice seal on the LSV. It rocks!
One idea @Herb-nerd is I could see making an oil kit made specifically for the LSV with a * longer * than the ssv glass height and a metal protective housing cover over glass for dabbing? A SIC nail or a Ti nail that fits just a bit tighter/shim kit?
I think it took me about 45 mins to type that shit ^..^ lmao.. I like this thing.. back at it..
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I actually find the the sometimes wonky heating element really irritates me. For no reason other than i hate that fact that it isn't straight! I have been thinking of a way to help it stay better positioned without costing too much money to produce new components.
@Joel W. I am afraid i didn't quite follow that
@Joel W. I am afraid i didn't quite follow that
lazylathe
Almost there...
@Herb-nerd
Has anyone tried to encase the heater in a glass shield?
So instead of just the heater cover, the ceramic element would also be shrouded by glass.
All Glass Air Path for purer hits!
Don't think it will be too hard!
It can also be a two piece design so that the actual heater cover also slides onto a post just like the HC.
I will be modding my LSV in a few weeks time to test this out!
Has anyone tried to encase the heater in a glass shield?
So instead of just the heater cover, the ceramic element would also be shrouded by glass.
All Glass Air Path for purer hits!
Don't think it will be too hard!
It can also be a two piece design so that the actual heater cover also slides onto a post just like the HC.
I will be modding my LSV in a few weeks time to test this out!
@Herb-nerd , Sorry for the confusion and I know the oil kit is not designed for the LSV but when used on mine the ti nail sticks up too far out the top and interferes with the marble on top from making a seal.
The clearance on yours looks better. I have to pull my glass up a bit on the LSV to get it like that.
Not sure what else you did not get. SIC = Silicon Carbide
The clearance on yours looks better. I have to pull my glass up a bit on the LSV to get it like that.
Not sure what else you did not get. SIC = Silicon Carbide
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DorianGray
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I think I've stumbled onto greatness 
By putting the crafty liquid pad in the WPA I'm creating an oven very similar to the crafty's oven. The screen stoppers of the WPA hold the pad perfectly in place and I haven't had any ABV escape through the sides. I would know because the WPA is connected to my cyclone adapter which has a screen that would catch anything.
I'm new to the LSV but this is my first time white walling my bubbler. (except that one time I combusted
)
With the liquid pad heat gets bounced around a few times and I'm getting the best extraction I've ever got with the LSV.
Anyone else on here have an LSV and mighty / crafty? you guys have to try this
By putting the crafty liquid pad in the WPA I'm creating an oven very similar to the crafty's oven. The screen stoppers of the WPA hold the pad perfectly in place and I haven't had any ABV escape through the sides. I would know because the WPA is connected to my cyclone adapter which has a screen that would catch anything.
I'm new to the LSV but this is my first time white walling my bubbler. (except that one time I combusted
) With the liquid pad heat gets bounced around a few times and I'm getting the best extraction I've ever got with the LSV.
Anyone else on here have an LSV and mighty / crafty? you guys have to try this