The Mighty/Mighty+ by Storz & Bickel

WakeAndVape said:

@Michel your right, my pax did suffer abuse and still worked, I even dropped my pax2 super hard on the ground and just got a couple minor blemishes...the mighty would have been fucked...just a shame it costs so much, but isn't that durable!

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Yeah I agree, it's probably not build quality you are paying for. I hope they'll work this out soon, at least within my warranty time. I guess I was to confident to announce any changements of the housing on my very first post of this forum. I addressed the thought about build quality to an s&b-engineer. could even be it was Storz or Bickel themselves, I was way to high and occupied at work at the same time when I received their call to ask for the name again. Could be after all the infos he had. He was at least deeply involved in R&D for 3 years. He was really hurt, I could hear him crying through the phone sounded like I affronted him very much. Doesn't change anything on the broken top fins... Time will tell if they can work this out. Since my Minivap will hopefully be back from warranty soon , I'll try to get in contact with a s&b engineer again when warranting my crafty. But I can't imagine they have a solution yet. I thought for days and made my head fume while the mighty vaped how they could easily resolve the problem without generating higher production costs (I want some free gifts again ). But I guess they'll have to entirely redesign the housing, at least around the bowl and probably the locking mechanism, too. Just thinking loud... I noticed the housing of my new unit is slightly curved towards the bowl. There are type of "kinks". Perhaps this is the first changement or my housing wasn't accurately produced.


Edit: @radiant34 that does not mean I can see any other vape replace my mighty so far... Still the best vape for the money, imo. I would buy it again since warranty isn't a concern to me as I live in Germany. I take my mighty anywhere. I'll simply warranty him again since i can economize some battery replacements by (ab-)using warranty. See it from the positive aspects. This often makes life easier. Don't forget R&D, included worldwide shipping, warranty, German build quality , inert materials and so on. Even some of the s&b suppliers are German so it isn't a Chinese vape with low loan costs and environmental pollution. But I had already some discussions with mods here in some threads I'm active because there is something to rant and complain about every vape, justified or not. So let's move on because I can tell you from personal experience, even from outside the forum, too: people will ignore you more if you complain louder about things they love. Love makes blind, and on the mighty thread it's hard to find someone disliking s&b or the mighty.
Send a nice letter with your unit to warranty and express politely how you feel about your purchase and I'm sure they'll take care of you! I was going through the same "hate-love" process!

Thank you . Atleast someone is standing up

Michel said:

Yeah I agree, it's probably not build quality you are paying for. I hope they'll work this out soon, at least within my warranty time. I guess I was to confident to announce any changements of the housing on my very first post of this forum. I addressed the thought about build quality to an s&b-engineer. could even be it was Storz or Bickel themselves, I was way to high and occupied at work at the same time when I received their call to ask for the name again. Could be after all the infos he had. He was at least deeply involved in R&D for 3 years. He was really hurt, I could hear him crying through the phone sounded like I affronted him very much. Doesn't change anything on the broken top fins... Time will tell if they can work this out. Since my Minivap will hopefully be back from warranty soon , I'll try to get in contact with a s&b engineer again when warranting my crafty. But I can't imagine they have a solution yet. I thought for days and made my head fume while the mighty vaped how they could easily resolve the problem without generating higher production costs (I want some free gifts again ). But I guess they'll have to entirely redesign the housing, at least around the bowl and probably the locking mechanism, too. Just thinking loud... I noticed the housing of my new unit is slightly curved towards the bowl. There are type of "kinks". Perhaps this is the first changement or my housing wasn't accurately produced.

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Since using the mighty I noticed the avb is a lot less lighter than my other vapes even at the highest temperature. Do you guys have light brown avb? It's very even though I just thought it would be darker since it has a powerful heater.

@Michel well put my brother . I'm very apologotetic for the way I came off. I still love my mighty and it is my main driver . It's just the best handle held product on the market. What boggles my mind is why aren't other vapes as strong as the mighty? I feel like this is the year vaporizers are going to to switch to the same power output as the mighty. My Vas is going to get worse and worse bahaha

Michel said:

Yeah I agree, it's probably not build quality you are paying for. I hope they'll work this out soon, at least within my warranty time. I guess I was to confident to announce any changements of the housing on my very first post of this forum. I addressed the thought about build quality to an s&b-engineer. could even be it was Storz or Bickel themselves, I was way to high and occupied at work at the same time when I received their call to ask for the name again. Could be after all the infos he had. He was at least deeply involved in R&D for 3 years. He was really hurt, I could hear him crying through the phone sounded like I affronted him very much. Doesn't change anything on the broken top fins... Time will tell if they can work this out. Since my Minivap will hopefully be back from warranty soon , I'll try to get in contact with a s&b engineer again when warranting my crafty. But I can't imagine they have a solution yet. I thought for days and made my head fume while the mighty vaped how they could easily resolve the problem without generating higher production costs (I want some free gifts again ). But I guess they'll have to entirely redesign the housing, at least around the bowl and probably the locking mechanism, too. Just thinking loud... I noticed the housing of my new unit is slightly curved towards the bowl. There are type of "kinks". Perhaps this is the first changement or my housing wasn't accurately produced.

Edit: @radiant34 that does not mean I can see any other vape replace my mighty so far... Still the best vape for the money, imo. I would buy it again since warranty isn't a concern to me as I live in Germany. I take my mighty anywhere. I'll simply warranty him again since i can economize some battery replacements by (ab-)using warranty. See it from the positive aspects. This often makes life easier. Don't forget R&D, included worldwide shipping, warranty, German build quality , inert materials and so on. Even some of the s&b suppliers are German so it isn't a Chinese vape with low loan costs and environmental pollution. But I had already some discussions with mods here in some threads I'm active because there is something to rant and complain about every vape, justified or not. So let's move on because I can tell you from personal experience, even from outside the forum, too: people will ignore you more if you complain louder about things they love. Love makes blind, and on the mighty thread it's hard to find someone disliking s&b or the mighty.
Send a nice letter with your unit to warranty and express politely how you feel about your purchase and I'm sure they'll take care of you! I was going through the same "hate-love" process!

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Great post Michel!

I can understand S&B's plight. They probably are too far into this design to fix it without major investments. Time, a new design, new materials, testing, and what do they do with all the old units? But the sooner they get on with it, the better we all, us and them, will be. And im optimistic they are working hard to make this right. I personally hope they fix it by March 2017! In the meantime ill be riding it hard.

Do any of you have pictures of your ABV?

Vapetrees said:

Since using the mighty I noticed the avb is a lot less lighter than my other vapes even at the highest temperature. Do you guys have light brown avb? It's very even though I just thought it would be darker since it has a powerful heater.

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It's very depending on strain, grind, moisture and how tight you load the bowl, imo.

I had everything from very light brownish or even golden ABV to very dark, almost black dust.

Michel said:

It's very depending on strain, grind, moisture and how tight you load the bowl, imo.

I had everything from very light brownish or even golden ABV to very dark, almost black dust.

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Cool, I'm just used to it being really dark almost black since In my solo and Pax2 it leaves it this way. In the mighty however it looks really light albeit evenly cooked. How do you usually grind yours? Fine, medium, no grind?

I asked S&B about battery life 10 days ago. They said they would respond shortly but nothing so I sent an email yesterday and now they've responded. In another email they seem to be playing stupid about the cracks in the top and are telling me cracks on the oring are if its out on wrong....i never sais anything about the oring. That's the blue ring. I was talking about the fins.

Anywho, on the battery...


1. What is the best way to prolong battery life on the mighty?

Best storage conditions for the Mighty:

· Standard ambient temperature (ca. 20°C, no frost, no direct sunlight, keep dry)

· Battery capacity between 20% und 80% (if the device is not used for a longer time)



2. Is it best to drain all the way and then recharge fully? Drain half way and recharge?

When using the Mighty frequently it is best to drain until about 20% capacity (one battery bar) and then recharge fully.

From time to time it make sense to drain all the way (no battery bar) and then recharge fully; this will adjust the battery capacity and keep the battery gauge correct.



3. If it is fully charged and you plug it in, does it bypass the battery?

Yes, if it is plugged in and switched ON.


And I asked about the car charger and they just said its fine to use at any point.

Michel said:

Yeah I agree, it's probably not build quality you are paying for. I hope they'll work this out soon, at least within my warranty time. I guess I was to confident to announce any changements of the housing on my very first post of this forum. I addressed the thought about build quality to an s&b-engineer. could even be it was Storz or Bickel themselves, I was way to high and occupied at work at the same time when I received their call to ask for the name again. Could be after all the infos he had. He was at least deeply involved in R&D for 3 years. He was really hurt, I could hear him crying through the phone sounded like I affronted him very much. Doesn't change anything on the broken top fins... Time will tell if they can work this out. Since my Minivap will hopefully be back from warranty soon , I'll try to get in contact with a s&b engineer again when warranting my crafty. But I can't imagine they have a solution yet. I thought for days and made my head fume while the mighty vaped how they could easily resolve the problem without generating higher production costs (I want some free gifts again ). But I guess they'll have to entirely redesign the housing, at least around the bowl and probably the locking mechanism, too. Just thinking loud... I noticed the housing of my new unit is slightly curved towards the bowl. There are type of "kinks". Perhaps this is the first changement or my housing wasn't accurately produced.

Edit: @radiant34 that does not mean I can see any other vape replace my mighty so far... Still the best vape for the money, imo. I would buy it again since warranty isn't a concern to me as I live in Germany. I take my mighty anywhere. I'll simply warranty him again since i can economize some battery replacements by (ab-)using warranty. See it from the positive aspects. This often makes life easier. Don't forget R&D, included worldwide shipping, warranty, German build quality , inert materials and so on. Even some of the s&b suppliers are German so it isn't a Chinese vape with low loan costs and environmental pollution. But I had already some discussions with mods here in some threads I'm active because there is something to rant and complain about every vape, justified or not. So let's move on because I can tell you from personal experience, even from outside the forum, too: people will ignore you more if you complain louder about things they love. Love makes blind, and on the mighty thread it's hard to find someone disliking s&b or the mighty.
Send a nice letter with your unit to warranty and express politely how you feel about your purchase and I'm sure they'll take care of you! I was going through the same "hate-love" process!

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I have the same thing on the Mighty I received last week. It has Fahrenheit staying as default and blue o-rings installed. Just FYI.

Also just noticed my Mighty got to about three bars and wouldn't vibrate when reaching the set temperature anymore.

Vapetrees said:

Also just noticed my Mighty got to about three bars and wouldn't vibrate when reaching the set temperature anymore.

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sometimes you have to wait for it to reach the desired temperature, wait for it to drop down in temperature, and then wait for it to come back up. I think it should vibrate then.

radiant34 said:

sometimes you have to wait for it to reach the desired temperature, wait for it to drop down in temperature, and then wait for it to come back up. I think it should vibrate then.

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I thought this too but it wouldn't vibrate unless I lowered then raised the temperature again.

Does anyone know... Does the Crafty have the same type of breakage issues I'm reading here about the Mighty?

Michel said:

Yeah I agree, it's probably not build quality you are paying for. I hope they'll work this out soon, at least within my warranty time. I guess I was to confident to announce any changements of the housing on my very first post of this forum. I addressed the thought about build quality to an s&b-engineer. could even be it was Storz or Bickel themselves, I was way to high and occupied at work at the same time when I received their call to ask for the name again. Could be after all the infos he had. He was at least deeply involved in R&D for 3 years. He was really hurt, I could hear him crying through the phone sounded like I affronted him very much. Doesn't change anything on the broken top fins... Time will tell if they can work this out. Since my Minivap will hopefully be back from warranty soon , I'll try to get in contact with a s&b engineer again when warranting my crafty. But I can't imagine they have a solution yet. I thought for days and made my head fume while the mighty vaped how they could easily resolve the problem without generating higher production costs (I want some free gifts again ). But I guess they'll have to entirely redesign the housing, at least around the bowl and probably the locking mechanism, too. Just thinking loud... I noticed the housing of my new unit is slightly curved towards the bowl. There are type of "kinks". Perhaps this is the first changement or my housing wasn't accurately produced.

Edit: @radiant34 that does not mean I can see any other vape replace my mighty so far... Still the best vape for the money, imo. I would buy it again since warranty isn't a concern to me as I live in Germany. I take my mighty anywhere. I'll simply warranty him again since i can economize some battery replacements by (ab-)using warranty. See it from the positive aspects. This often makes life easier. Don't forget R&D, included worldwide shipping, warranty, German build quality , inert materials and so on. Even some of the s&b suppliers are German so it isn't a Chinese vape with low loan costs and environmental pollution. But I had already some discussions with mods here in some threads I'm active because there is something to rant and complain about every vape, justified or not. So let's move on because I can tell you from personal experience, even from outside the forum, too: people will ignore you more if you complain louder about things they love. Love makes blind, and on the mighty thread it's hard to find someone disliking s&b or the mighty.
Send a nice letter with your unit to warranty and express politely how you feel about your purchase and I'm sure they'll take care of you! I was going through the same "hate-love" process!

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I just got a mighty recently, noticed the same thing, as long as it doesn't effect the unit down the road, im fine with it.

Vapetrees said:

Cool, I'm just used to it being really dark almost black since In my solo and Pax2 it leaves it this way. In the mighty however it looks really light albeit evenly cooked. How do you usually grind yours? Fine, medium, no grind?

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Just like I feel. The mighty vapes anything.

@GrkCdn , thank you for sharing. But I guess the Ladies on the phone or email correspondence aren't very helpful about technical questions going further than the Infos provided on the s&b home page... This is why I'm waiting to warranty my unit to get in contact with a technician or engineer what seems impossible through email or phone.
I agree with the provided answer apart the pass-through charging. Hopefully someone is going to sacrifice a mighty to find this out soon and to finally convince me I really don't need a desktop...

ean said:

I just got a mighty recently, noticed the same thing, as long as it doesn't effect the unit down the road, im fine with it.

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I think the kinks are wanted to prevent a breaking of the locking mechanism, so I'm ok with them, too!

Ok so I'm thinking of getting a Mighty because it seems like a power house of a vape and i don't mind the size. Battery life is intriguing also.

I was reading though and saw something like the load gets finished in 5-6 hits. That would be a problem for me.

Cannabis Connoisseur said:

VHW? What's that bro? VRIP HEAT WAND?

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You got it man.

My Mighty top fins are breaking. No big deal, function is still flawless!

SiDankies said:

Ok so I'm thinking of getting a Mighty because it seems like a power house of a vape and i don't mind the size. Battery life is intriguing also.

I was reading though and saw something like the load gets finished in 5-6 hits. That would be a problem for me.

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It depends on the potency of your herb. For the past few months I've had decent weed but it didn't give that many tokes. The other day a buddy of mine's harvest finally came in and he helped me out. I can hardly finish it and I'm left with a weird anxious spaced out feeling. Heart racing... So it depends on the weed.

My Mighty is going back tomorrow, can't get it to charge any more as the adapter is knackered, so it's all going back for exchange/repair/whatever. I hope I get it back quick, losing the Mighty is akin to losing my penis. Except the Mighty gets used more.

SiDankies said:

Ok so I'm thinking of getting a Mighty because it seems like a power house of a vape and i don't mind the size. Battery life is intriguing also.

I was reading though and saw something like the load gets finished in 5-6 hits. That would be a problem for me.

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I was concerned by those statements, too, just before buying. It's possible with water tools and higher temps to finish a bowl in 3-6 draws but if I have a normal session I can get at least 30 nice draws. Very similar to smoking a joint, imo.

If I start at 175'C I can get endless clouds. I use (luckily) mostly medical grade MJ.

Michel said:

I was concerned by those statements, too, just before buying. It's possible with water tools and higher temps to finish a bowl in 3-6 draws but if I have a normal session I can get at least 30 nice draws. Very similar to smoking a joint, imo.

If I start at 175'C I can get endless clouds. I use (luckily) mostly medical grade MJ.

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I agree! I get about 6 good pulls through water and not sure how many draws I get dry but it definitely lasts me about 15mins ish....

SiDankies said:

I was reading though and saw something like the load gets finished in 5-6 hits. That would be a problem for me.

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Just curious but why is that a problem? You could always just turn the temperatures down and vaporize at your leisure.

Alan Partridge said:

My Mighty is going back tomorrow, can't get it to charge any more as the adapter is knackered, so it's all going back for exchange/repair/whatever. I hope I get it back quick, losing the Mighty is akin to losing my penis. Except the Mighty gets used more.

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My power adapter went last week. The cord had broken internally and would only charge in one position.

Hi @Vapetrees , take some of your best bud, dryish. And grind it pretty fine ( very very fine for this experiment).
Load with your loading tool til bowl is full (liberable amount, again for experiment).
Tamp down well and ride one of the coarse screens (or any screen that size ) for me I make the screen go just below the rubber looking bowl piece so it sits being held in by the edges.
Start at 195 for this experiment and take long hauls as slow as you are able to. Up to 10 or 12 second should do, or less once she gets going. Ride the temp buttons up and down one degree to foil auto shutoff. Toward end of session go to 200 c and even 205 or 210 c to finish.

*you can even start at lower temp and finish lower*