Where are the Game of Throne fans?
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EveryDayAmnesiac
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Must... wait .... until .... Sunday...
StickyShisha2
Well-Known Member
can someone explain to me where the stone men and gray scale fit in, in the world where fire god and dragons seem about to battle winter and white walkers.
His_Highness
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
I'm not sure the ultimate connection/story-line between the stone men/gray scale has been made yet other than Mormont contracting it.
Is this book knowledge or TV show knowledge? Without spoiling things, I would be interested if one of you book-walkers could enlighten me on where the TV shows is in relation to the books. It's pretty clear that the show will outstrip the books soon. I for one don't think GRRM will ever finish the books.
StickyShisha2
Well-Known Member
the last moment of this past show reveals Mormont contracting it.
Mister G
Deceptively Old Fart
There are an unending # of articles out there on the differences between the books and the HBO show....
Indeed there are and not a single one of them was written to answer my specific question. I'm sure some of them do but since I would prefer to avoid spoilers, I can't easily filter out which ones are safe. Dilemma, what to do?
If only there were a forum where I could ask...
Mister G
Deceptively Old Fart
Indeed there are and not a single one of them was written to answer my specific question. I'm sure some of them do but since I would prefer to avoid spoilers, I can't easily filter out which ones are safe. Dilemma, what to do?
Alright then...one unspoilerish thing I have read is that the current season 5 diverges quite a bit, whereas the novel covering the sames storylines is gigantic in its sprawl, many book readers have been amazed at how concisely they have recombined all the story lines into something more cohesive and linear for the tv medium, which of course necessitates large plot changes, one example being who dies and who lives, e.g. Ser Barristan.
For anyone specifically interested in the Greyscale disease, I found a nice primer article, Greyscale 101. Many believe that the recent increase in Greyscale storylines in the TV show foreshadows an increase in it's significance to the overall plot.
Lastly, here's a link to some specific info on the differences between the books and this past Sunday's Season5/Episode5, below I've pasted the part addressing Greyscale:
1) Jorah doesn't get greyscale in the books — somebody else does
(HBO)
The core of this week's action sequence involving Tyrion and Jorah is drawn from A Dance With Dragons. In it, Tyrion gets attacked by the "stone men" while on a riverboat journey through ancient ruins — but on the page, Jorah isn't there.
Book Tyrion takes this treacherous voyage before his kidnapping by Jorah. Instead, at this point he's still traveling with the characters Griff and Young Griff, who seem to have been cut from the show. It is Griff who saves Tyrion from the water, and is later revealed to have contracted greyscale in doing so. Though Jorah doesn't have an easy time of it in book five, he appears to be disease-free at the very least.
The setting is also different — in the books, the stone men don't live in the ruins of Old Valyria. Indeed, it’s said no one has ever visited that mysterious locale and returned. Instead, the stone men inhabit the ruined city of Chroyane in a part of the Rhoyne River known as the Sorrows.
Finally, book Tyrion doesn’t see Drogon flying overhead — not clearly, at least. In the fog, he briefly spots "a half-seen shape" above him with "pale leathery wings," but it disappears before he can get a better look.
(HBO)
The core of this week's action sequence involving Tyrion and Jorah is drawn from A Dance With Dragons. In it, Tyrion gets attacked by the "stone men" while on a riverboat journey through ancient ruins — but on the page, Jorah isn't there.
Book Tyrion takes this treacherous voyage before his kidnapping by Jorah. Instead, at this point he's still traveling with the characters Griff and Young Griff, who seem to have been cut from the show. It is Griff who saves Tyrion from the water, and is later revealed to have contracted greyscale in doing so. Though Jorah doesn't have an easy time of it in book five, he appears to be disease-free at the very least.
The setting is also different — in the books, the stone men don't live in the ruins of Old Valyria. Indeed, it’s said no one has ever visited that mysterious locale and returned. Instead, the stone men inhabit the ruined city of Chroyane in a part of the Rhoyne River known as the Sorrows.
Finally, book Tyrion doesn’t see Drogon flying overhead — not clearly, at least. In the fog, he briefly spots "a half-seen shape" above him with "pale leathery wings," but it disappears before he can get a better look.
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Thank you, @Mister G. I take issue with a description of anything GRRM has written as gigantic in its sprawl. There is no way he could ever limit himself like that.
I'm curious to see what will happen when the current circumstance is reversed, and the TV shows become spoilers of books unfinished and probably unwritten.
I'm curious to see what will happen when the current circumstance is reversed, and the TV shows become spoilers of books unfinished and probably unwritten.
His_Highness
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
I've not read the books.
LOLOL
Enchantre
Oil Painter
We are just now getting into season 4 (Netflix)... and, I find myself trying to reorient myself..
King Joffrey has been DEAD TO ME for awhile... just watched him die. Yay!
I love GRRM's character & scene development. Again, I repeat myself. The man canNOT write a book. Beginning, middle, END. He has no concept of END here... I see so many WONDERFUL threads/characters/possibilities, and he's blundering right through, and starting new stuff instead.
Whatever. It's still a fun romp.
King Joffrey has been DEAD TO ME for awhile... just watched him die. Yay!
I love GRRM's character & scene development. Again, I repeat myself. The man canNOT write a book. Beginning, middle, END. He has no concept of END here... I see so many WONDERFUL threads/characters/possibilities, and he's blundering right through, and starting new stuff instead.
Whatever. It's still a fun romp.
Enchantre
Oil Painter
*Snortle* Perhaps. They keep saying so.
I'd like to show her some brotherly love.HOW is this bitch still breathing?
I don't like her (character) very much.
grokit
well-worn member
HahahahahaHOW is this bitch still breathing?
