JoeS

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The alpha seems like a really good value proposition. Same with the Arizer Air. However, if these are only marginally better than the solo, you should wait to pony up the big bucks for the mighty. What country are you in?
i am in Italy... not many people are into vaping down here ;) there are many things i like about the Alfa: it's stealth, really portable, it should produce decent clouds and the price is nice, which is perfect for me right now! :D so yeah... i'll have to wait for the Air and the Mighty... i will slowly make my small collection... luckly VAS is not rushing! LOL now i'm going to load my Plenty, cheers fellows!
 

GrkCdn

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Ah. I went to Italy last October. Didn't notice much blazage. I went to Rome and Milan. Went to Barcelona in between and it was great cause everyone smokes! I'm from Greece originally and I was there before I went to Italy and they have some nice bud there. I was told it was grown in kalamata. Like the famous olives. I wish I could take my plenty there but I would never take a vape across borders.
 
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whateverman

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Hey whateverman how has the response been from S&B? Whereabouts are you located? Curious as an owner of S&B products now.

Hey man, thanks for asking!
Their first response which arrived a day later was basically RTFM.
I had to further explain that I had put almost 1g in there with very little visible vapor on settings 4-7 (wtf?).
No answer for 4 days. I freaked out. send another mail "Still waiting for your response", and answered with "Send it to us to Germany we'll take a look at it".
But I don't want to send it to Germany because of the attitude to vaporizers in my country - Vaporizers are in a gray and unclear area of the law. The last thing I want is to send something like that abroad. That of course doesn't mean I don't wanna return the product - I just wanna return it to the store I bought it from and not sending it abroad myself.

They asked for the serial number of the product today and name of the store I bought it from. Still bummed I own a 400$ piece of plastic that does nothing.

I hope things will work out for the best and I will finally get to enjoy an S&B product.

I'll keep you updated! (if you want, of course :) )
 
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GrkCdn

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Please do. Sorry about your vape. The Plenty is awesome and I wish I could help you myself. Best of luck and keep us posted. I know it sucks having to ship abroad with the absurd laws we all have to work around.
 

tjsop

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Hi Guys,

By inadvertence i forgot to put the pad and i was totaly surprised by the result.
I vaped a very long time and i was really really smashed compared with a pad use.
On the left center its a volcano abv and on his sides plenty's abv with pad, and on the right plenty's abv without pad, almost charred.
Its like the pad is retaining a lot of heat that doesnt go to the herb..
Try the plenty without pad the difference is really huge.
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GrkCdn

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Whoooa. That looks burnt. You didn't put a lot either. Did you distribute basically a thin layer?

I can't imagine the pad is retaining any heat. It sits above the herb which is placed right above the heating element. So regardless of what's on top it gets the same amount of heat, no? I can't explain why its so charred though. Even without the pad I don't get it like that. But if it moves and is constantly along the wall of the filling chamber and is heated by that stuck in a corner or something maybe that did it. In my Haze if I put a small amount and it shifts to one side along the the metal it gets to its darkest colour.
 
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tjsop

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Whoooa. That looks burnt. You didn't put a lot either. Did you distribute basically a thin layer?

I can't imagine the pad is retaining any heat. It sits above the herb which is placed right above the heating element. So regardless of what's on top it gets the same amount of heat, no? I can't explain why its so charred though. Even without the pad I don't get it like that. But if it moves and is constantly along the wall of the filling chamber and is heated by that stuck in a corner or something maybe that did it. In my Haze if I put a small amount and it shifts to one side along the the metal it gets to its darkest colour.

Yes i distribute a thin layer but you certainly right because i tried it again but i couldnt get this result this time so yes it was for sure on a corner the first time.

whats this over medicate you are mentioning? I love that feeling.

I'm getting the picture that the nano is much more efficient than the plenty, and for solo use the nano would be the better choice too?
The plenty has better vapour quality than the nano (which is often used with water filtration), right? How does the plenty's vapour quality compare with the volcano's?

Any idea why the vape critic has stayed away from reviewing the nano?

The plenty has better vapour quality than the volcano concerning the taste, a way better. With the plenty you have the 3-4 divin hits at the begining that you loose with the volcano because its mixed in the all ballon with air. Its more concentrated with the plenty but the volcano has the avantage concerning the draw resistance that is zero in fact. With the volcano you definitely does zero effort to vap compared to the plenty.

I use both as each vap has his cons and pros finally. Sometimes i really like to vap with zero draw resistance thanks to the ballon and sometimes i prefer the concentrated taste.. That's why the volcano its so expensive, its because the machine does all the work of extraction for you while you do it yourself with the plenty.
 
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GrkCdn

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Basically zero draw resistance. It's amazing. Even the first few pulls when you don't really get much you still feel like hot air or something or faint vapor filling up your lungs. Then you get big hits of vapor filling up. It really is amazing. It's a vaporizer bong but unlike a bong you can just keep hitting...welll...until temp drops and you click it and wait for it to get back up but yeah lol
 

whateverman

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Basically zero draw resistance. It's amazing. Even the first few pulls when you don't really get much you still feel like hot air or something or faint vapor filling up your lungs. Then you get big hits of vapor filling up. It really is amazing. It's a vaporizer bong but unlike a bong you can just keep hitting...welll...until temp drops and you click it and wait for it to get back up but yeah lol

Bro can you share with us your routine with the Plenty? How much herb do you put inside the chamber and how many vapor hits do you get from it?

P.S. S&B told me to show the device to the distributer in my region before they could do anything about it (which is an hour and a half drive each direction. Sigh.)
 
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GrkCdn

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I haven't used it in almost a week and I tend to forget but I fill it up enough so that I still have space to put the pad on top. I sprinkle in the herb evenly and then put the pad. I make sure that everything is evenly distributed. That's the key. I set the temp to about 6.5-7 to heat it up nice and then lower the temp once everything gets going. So the first initial hits i take when its well in the red and it doesn't draw much but then it gets going..at that point I lower it to about 6 and take hits when I'm at basically the border of green and red and if I tell my friend to take a nice big hit after I set it up that way they get destroyed lol. I mean even outdoors with wind you'll see the clouds.
 

whateverman

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Omg I think I got it!
I've been experimenting with the plenty today and read some of the posts in this thread (page 29 is gold).

Eventually whats working best for me right now is putting cotton on top of the herb in the chamber. Draw resistance is suddenly appearing, but not bad at all! And I get some really nice clouds from about 0.2g!

I will experiment some more and tell you what I think!
 
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I thought I got it working for me - it didn't. I had taken the PLENTY to the distributor today, and after the inspection I was told my device is working properly.

I just can't seem to see the beast everyone's talking about.

I guess I'm just fucked. I believed the hype when I really shouldn't. I guess it will be a lesson for me.
 
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whateverman

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I plug in the PLENTY, turn it on heat setting number 7, I put about 0.3-0.4 fine grinded herb + the liquid pad inside the chamber. wait for the click, connect the chamber to the heating element and start puffing until it's too hot for me to take it, so I drop it to 6, then going up again to 7. it's about 4-5 real puffs - nothing exciting.

0.3 is 2 Arizer Solo bowls that can kick my ass any time of the day. 0.3 in the PLENTY is nothing, really.
 
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tjsop

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I plug in the PLENTY, turn it on heat setting number 7, I put about 0.3-0.4 fine grinded herb + the liquid pad inside the chamber. wait for the click, connect the chamber to the heating element and start puffing until it's too hot for me to take it, so I drop it to 6, then going up again to 7. it's about 4-5 real puffs - nothing exciting.

0.3 is 2 Arizer Solo bowls that can kick my ass any time of the day. 0.3 in the PLENTY is nothing, really.

First of all, you dont respect the procedure. You didnt read the notice. You have first to connect the chamber to the heating element before turning on the Plenty.

And second, my brother has the arizer solo and its simply the worst vap i have ever used... The draw resistance is terrible, I put it on 8 on the draw resistance scale; Volcano at 0, the Plenty and the Crafty at 2. I think that you are taking the headach that the arizer provides during the draw for the high..
 
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GrkCdn

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Oh man the Plenty obliterates the solo.

As mentioned, your problem might be an easy fix. Make sure everything is put together before you turn it on to get to temp. The instructions I believe made that clear. Let us know how that works out for you!

You're basically getting the element up to temp and then you put on the filling chamber and suck in hot air because the herb hasn't had a chance to heat up yet and release vapor. It doesn't instantly vaporize at that temperature when you attach it brother. I hope you have a positive experience now.
 
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I plug in the PLENTY, turn it on heat setting number 7, I put about 0.3-0.4 fine grinded herb + the liquid pad inside the chamber. wait for the click, connect the chamber to the heating element and start puffing until it's too hot for me to take it, so I drop it to 6, then going up again to 7. it's about 4-5 real puffs - nothing exciting.

0.3 is 2 Arizer Solo bowls that can kick my ass any time of the day. 0.3 in the PLENTY is nothing, really.
Dude - no its sounds like you have it wrong to me. Pack the chamber and attach it to the Plenty. Turn it on and let it go from cold to fully heated ( I use 7) and then start taking hits. This should solve your problem. I think you are making user errors from what I can understand from your posts. No offence but there is a reason you are not getting the response from S&B that you are looking for.
 
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Jambi619

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Yeah man, I packed <0.1 with the pad the other day on 5 and was fucking gone.
 
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GrkCdn

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What does < 0.1 even look like? Would you mind posting a picture of that amount in the filling chamber? What do you get from that? 1-2 pulls?
 
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