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EmDeemo

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ATTENTION !! New Grasshopper Contest:

Guess how many parts are in these bags.

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Winner will be announced no later than August 15, 2018, possibly sooner, unless unsuspecting circumstances arise. Prize as of yet is undetermined.

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Mister G

Deceptively Old Fart
Trevor confirmed to me in an email that they still do not have heaters, batteries and "other electronics". So expectations of imminent assembly are vastly optimistic. I'm calling late May early June for first shipments

Thank you for sharing that info. It's not what they DO say, it's what they DON'T say in these updates that is the problem. Imagine the pandemonium if they put out there in the public update that they still don't have heaters, but look, shiny bags of other stuff and incomplete builds!
 

vapebuddy13

Your resident Super Hero
as optimistic as I generally like to be... that is a little disheartening with how they have been playing these past updates... Maybe I need to reread the last update b4 the parts but was under the impression they would be able to start assembling and shipping after these parts came in
 

Mister G

Deceptively Old Fart
as optimistic as I generally like to be... that is a little disheartening with how they have been playing these past updates... Maybe I need to reread the last update b4 the parts but was under the impression they would be able to start assembling and shipping after these parts came in

Don't blame yourself, it's what they wanted you to think.
 

Delta3DStudios

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Trevor confirmed to me in an email that they still do not have heaters, batteries and "other electronics". So expectations of imminent assembly are vastly optimistic. I'm calling late May early June for first shipments

Well that is certainly disheartening. Did he provide any other useful info?
 
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Mister G

Deceptively Old Fart
I do think they will actually deliver and are as close as they've ever been. I also "mostly" don't blame them for the lack of transparency, they are so late to market they have no choice but to keep stringing it along or the hasty emotional types will flood them with refund requests just before they reach the finish line.

Buzz Danklin's info is the only thing I think is keeping people on the positive side, but they are quickly running out of whatever consumer confidence they have left.
 

hi_there

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Somehow, that's a BAD thing?

It is a matter of transparency, people have been waiting a long time for this and there has been a lot of support. I personally would rather hear something like, the heaters will not be ready for 2 months or whatever, than for them to imply that shipping is immanent if it isn't. The scheduled update did not include this info either.
 

hi_there

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Ok, I took out the word lying because you guys are right, probably just an overreaction on my part. I still feel they are not being as transparent as they could/should be.
 
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SmorezNTickles

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Ok, I took out the word lying because you guys are right, probably just an overreaction on my part. I still feel they are not being as transparent as they could/should be.

I do agree that they can be more clear at times where they are standing in the process, however I don't think they're intentionally trying to hide anything. If they were, they never would have told us about the heater problem, or respond to that email saying they haven't gotten their electronics yet. Like @zymos said, this was not even a scheduled update, they did this to show us they're slowly closing in on the shipping date. Be happy they're happy and that they're willing to allocate time out of their busy days to attempt to reinforce their customer's trust. Rock on GH Team :rockon::clap:
 

syrupy

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I find it a little bait-and-switch-y to show bags of parts with no mention of the heater. It's kind of like the boxes--always starting with form instead of function.
 
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Mrbinky

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I also "mostly" don't blame them for the lack of transparency, they are so late to market they have no choice but to keep stringing it along
Sorry, but I do not agree that any company or individual has a right to "keep stringing people along", regardless how little respect they may have for those people's character or ability to make rational judgements. "Stringing people along", even if it is "for their own good" is just plain wrong. I hope that whatever they are doing in this regard, it is not intentional.
 

vapebuddy13

Your resident Super Hero
I mean I dont think its intentional stringing, I just think they are being very careful with their wording in updates and that because they know how the community has been reacting and doesnt want to cause more issues and claims of lying than has already come up (besides the ones that are bound to happen) Hopefully they get the other stuff in quickly and gets it out to us... the waiting game is a dangerous one
 

HoustonGuide

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ATTENTION !! New Grasshopper Contest:

Guess how many parts are in these bags.

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Winner will be announced no later than August 15, 2018, possibly sooner, unless unsuspecting circumstances arise. Prize as of yet is undetermined.
My guess is 1.27 shitloads. What do I win?

Even if they don't have the electronics yet, there is work that could be done - assembling the back end, installing screens in the front end, etc. It'd speed things up for when the electronics do arrive.
 
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