OF

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Power wise would a battery pack be more useful than extra 18650's?

I've done it both ways, it's your call IMO. Changing to a charged battery is fast and easy (remember the power bank solution still involves about 2 hours for a recharge). However, if you have a cell phone, mp3 player, GPS or any other gadget that charges at five volts the power bank has an advantage there I think. BTW plan on a power bank rating of about 3000mAh being needed to completely recharge, there are efficiency issues raising the power banks voltage to 5.0 Volts so the Air can lower it back to whatever is needed at that instant to support charging.

The only perfect answer is 'do both', the call of which is more useful to you you'll have to make.

OF
Sorry to b a pain by not looking back but what size tubing do u use with that bubbler.
And will it work on the solo or is it just the air with the plastic mouthpiece.
Thank you

If you'd checked the link I posted above:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-arizer-air.16415/page-77#post-722600

You'd find the answer there: "And stick a 3/4 inch or so piece of 1/2 inch OD (3/8 ID) silicone tube in the bottom instead of the cheap oil 'skillet' that comes with it". Specifically I use this tube, although others would no doubt work:
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=36289&catid=799

Although I've never tried it, I see no reason it wouldn't work with all glass stems (although you might have the change/adjust the tubing. When I use it on my Solo I just use the Air stem, at ten bucks each cheaper and easier to get than a PVHES.......

You're welcome, and best of luck. IMO worth figuring out.

OF
 

OF

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Thanks OF very helpful as always

Yer welcome.

I'm not sure about that 'helpful as always' bit. For sure there's a buncha guys who'd argue the point with you.......and they've got lots of examples to back their narrow minded opinions up with. Some of the examples more embarrassing than others......

OF
 

OF

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U always help me, would I.d 10mm b ok
Tia

Should work, that's .393 inches, I'm using .375 nominal.

Sorry about the 'always help' part. Give me another chance? I'm sure I can find some useless advice to offer around here somewhere.......

Cheers,

Regarding this power pack, how do you use this with the air?

I plug it in. They typically output 5 VDC and can be treated as a USB port. Use the same cable you'd use for that.

OF
 
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maereax

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Sorry guys, I followed the discussion for a while and then lost track... has a judgment been made about how good/bad of an idea it is to use third party batts in the air? I bought the Samsung's and still haven't used them
 
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photobooth

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My attitude with the 3rd party batteries is "better safe than sorry". Is the $2-5 I might save by buying an off-brand battery really worth the worry that it may damage the Air or void my warranty?
IMO it's not worth the concern to save a few bucks, but that decision is up to you
 

LongIslandmom

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I am not sure I can put the AA up there with the evo, that's just on another level. The AA however is a very effective, efficient vape that is good for any type of user.



How do you get water in and out if it doesn't spill?
Yes I do agree that the is no Vape like evo. But for the price and ease the AA is a great device.

OF Everyone seems to be looking for that easy flow water tool. Gonna hold off on PWT to see what that is
 

OF

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OF Everyone seems to be looking for that easy flow water tool. Gonna hold off on PWT to see what that is

If you say so, although I'm not sure why it's hard to find. Here it is under $15 shipped, complete with a low end oil cart you can throw away, try out or hang on your Christmas tree next year:
http://www.dhgate.com/product/glass...rb-vaporizer/213068750.html#palceorder-1-null

If you 'cut and paste' the first half dozen or so words from that description into their search you can find other ways to buy it. I've ordered a few several times now in a couple different packaging.

DH Gate will also sell you a PNWT clone:
http://www.dhgate.com/product/pinna.../213821696.html?recinfo=17,0,1#vhs-1-5|null:0

OF
 

UnshavenFish

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Sorry guys, I followed the discussion for a while and then lost track... has a judgment been made about how good/bad of an idea it is to use third party batts in the air? I bought the Samsung's and still haven't used them

How good/bad the idea is depends on a few things...

One is how much you understand about batteries in general (please don't take this as an insult, I'm no expert, but there can be a lot of variation from one to the next)

Another is where you got the batteries from, is it somewhere you trust? Are you sure they are what they claim to be?, there are lots of good batteries out there but also a lot of fake/bad quality ones.

Now i think it was agreed that the reason Arizer only recommends their batteries is that these are the ones that they have/had tested and are confident that they will not cause issues and behave the way they want them to, this way they cover themselves against customers being hurt by using fake/bad quality aftermarket options.
This is also the reason 99% here will also recommend OEM batteries.

There are people here that use other batteries and i don't think we have heard anything gone wrong (but would we? after the standard advice here of use OEM)

My advice would be the same as @photobooth, but in the end the decision is yours.
 

solodolo420

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How good/bad the idea is depends on a few things...

One is how much you understand about batteries in general (please don't take this as an insult, I'm no expert, but there can be a lot of variation from one to the next)

Another is where you got the batteries from, is it somewhere you trust? Are you sure they are what they claim to be?, there are lots of good batteries out there but also a lot of fake/bad quality ones.

Now i think it was agreed that the reason Arizer only recommends their batteries is that these are the ones that they have/had tested and are confident that they will not cause issues and behave the way they want them to, this way they cover themselves against customers being hurt by using fake/bad quality aftermarket options.
This is also the reason 99% here will also recommend OEM batteries.

There are people here that use other batteries and i don't think we have heard anything gone wrong (but would we? after the standard advice here of use OEM)

My advice would be the same as @photobooth, but in the end the decision is yours.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321708039017?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

I bought these a few weeks ago and they are working just fine! I do understand the risk however but I just didn't see a scenario where they could prove I used a different battery.
 

LongIslandmom

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OF: Ok as always I'm confused and I didn't even celebrate 4/20. The water tool that you just showed isn't what everyone is talking this "easy flow" water tool, correct? I'm still loving the AA but I would love to have something that you didn't need to always turn upside down
 

UnshavenFish

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/321708039017?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

I bought these a few weeks ago and they are working just fine! I do understand the risk however but I just didn't see a scenario where they could prove I used a different battery.

Good to hear everything is going well:tup: i also find it hard to believe that they could tell/prove anything but its not something with my knowledge:hmm: i could say 100% as advice to others.

If you have time it would be interesting to hear how they perform over time, in regards to heat up time, charge time and stems per charge compared to your OEM that came with your air, I'm sure there are people that would be interested (myself included)

IMO you will probably find they perform basically the same with no gain other than a few $ saved, but i really would love to be proved wrong here.

(This last bit is not aimed at you or anyone here but hope it explains why some of my advice sounds cautious at times) i heard someone say (on here i think) there is a reason McDonalds cups have "warning HOT" on them, some people need this kind of warning:rolleyes: (I'm sure you know what your doing and made an informed choice but you know the kind of people I'm talking about right? :lol:)

:clap:Happy testing:science:

OF: Ok as always I'm confused and I didn't even celebrate 4/20. The water tool that you just showed isn't what everyone is talking this "easy flow" water tool, correct? I'm still loving the AA but I would love to have something that you didn't need to always turn upside down

I think i see the confusion, there are two water tools being talked about right now, one is @OF's and the other is something vapefiend is getting in the future, the vapefiend one is smaller like inside of a longer aa stem.

Both have my VAS or is it SAS:shrug: going though:lol:
 

gotlucy

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ok have searched, haven't found... what are the air's dimensions? esp diameter?? any pics of solo next to air? :)
 
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OF

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ok have searched, haven't found... what are the air's dimensions? esp diameter?? any pics of solo next to air? :)

First hit on Google:
http://arizer.com/store/en/hand-held/94-arizer-air-portable-diffuser.html

There are photos earlier in the thread, at least one with Solo. They're basically the same height, Air about half the diameter, "122mm in Height and 29mm in Diameter" and "Solo measures 4.5 “ in Height and 1.75” in Diameter " according to the maker. Beats me why they started out SAE and went metric......must have to do with everything being labeled in English and French?

OF
 

LongIslandmom

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I can't tell you exact demensions but it is smaller and thinner. It's truly portable. I would say it's about half the size of the solo. It works really well. You can stick in your pocket (or my case, a purse). I kinda like it as much as the solo for this very reason. Honestly, you only need 1 but these devices break a lot so it's always good to have a back up vape.


Nothing is quite like the EVO but I stuck the Air in my really big doughboy recyler this weeken and the air was producing big clouds.

Should I sell the Pax because I am so over that vape. Happy 4/20 and it's Monday so I didn't partake today. Makes Friday so much more exciting.
 

LongIslandmom

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OF: does your little water tool with the PVH Gong? I Just love this little tool but my PVH Gong is just so amazing. And how are you and how was your 4/20?
 
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murf2010

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How's smoothness on the Air. Is this basically same as solo as far as performance goes?
 
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