Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

SmorezNTickles

It's real.
I was a bit taken aback by the price but my Crafty has been a champ. So far beyond the Pinnacle Pro. Without the pad, it is quite smooth. I couldn't hit the PnP without coughing but the Crafty only causes a bit of a tickle. Here's hoping the GH lives up to its claims!
Sorry to rain on your parade but if the Crafty tickles your throat, then the GH is gonna make you cough...
 

Balzac

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I get that charging while the unit is still warm would be bad. But is frequent "topping off" of the battery a bad thing - such as frequently re-charging while the battery is 50-80%? I've seen various opinions.
 

Vapor Loop

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they were made in 2001? wtf took em so long to get on the market lol


No i just saw them in a vision in 2001, While describing them and talking about it to a friend he said it would be called the Mighty, And i wen't on saying how i would make this corny that's Mighty Crafty joke too.


I could go on about what i saw that day all of which has fallen into place perfectly, But that's not about the Crafty.
 
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biohacker

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I get that charging while the unit is still warm would be bad. But is frequent "topping off" of the battery a bad thing - such as frequently re-charging while the battery is 50-80%? I've seen various opinions.

I think it's actually a good thing as long as you don't leave it on the charger after it's fully charged, but like you I keep reading conflicting information.

No i just saw them in a vision in 2001, While describing them and talking about it to a friend he said it would be called the Mighty, And i wen't on saying how i would make this corny that's Mighty Crafty joke too.


I could go on about what i saw that day all of which has fallen into place perfectly, But that's not about the Crafty.

Dude! What strain?! :rockon:
 

UnshavenFish

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I get that charging while the unit is still warm would be bad. But is frequent "topping off" of the battery a bad thing - such as frequently re-charging while the battery is 50-80%? I've seen various opinions.

Like @biohacker i see this as a good thing, remember we are talking Li-ion not Ni-MH or Ni-Cd so there is no memory effect (even with the old memory effect there was a lot of confusion about it which is where i think a lot of the different opinions come from), one benefit is less charge time giving cooler charging (remember as you said heats not good for batteries)

One reason people will say its bad is some devices use a full charge from empty to work out battery % (sort of) you might notice this with a phone or tablet where the device shuts down before reaching 0/2% when charged more frequently for shorter times.

Now charge time could also be adjusted due to the charge mode (cc,cv,tc) as the last part of this takes longer due to reduced power compared to the first part of the charge cycle but IMO this would not be something that you would notice unless getting anal with timing, although I'm only guessing about the way/method the crafty charges i have not rigged anything up to check.

I also agree leaving plugged in once fully charged is not the best thing to do, it shouldn't make any difference really as the crafty has protection inside and as long as that does its job everything is fine, unfortunately the way my head works i always think what if? Now IMO you have more chance of winning the lottery than your battery overcharging, but i still play the lottery knowing that i probably wont win but there's always that chance.

I charge mine both ways (full and short charges), as sometimes i do want extra bowls so run it flat, but either way IMO it wont have that much of a difference in overall battery life.

Best to use it the way that fits you most, enjoy it, use it, let it make you smile :D. Its always a good thing to get a better understanding of battery safety or how to get the best out of them but remember to have fun :science: as its easy to get wrapped up in getting the very best out of them, i know i have in the past:doh: but you do loose some of the fun.
 

Crafty Vaper

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Hey fellas! My unit has now 112 hours on its clock. The last 12 hours I vaped only at one temperature. I found my sweet spot at 195°C. Nice flavourful hits nearly 12 minutes with a losely full packed chamber. I get still three of these out of one battery charge. Vape on! :rockon:
 

Michel

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Like @biohacker i see this as a good thing, remember we are talking Li-ion not Ni-MH or Ni-Cd so there is no memory effect (even with the old memory effect there was a lot of confusion about it which is where i think a lot of the different opinions come from), one benefit is less charge time giving cooler charging (remember as you said heats not good for batteries)

One reason people will say its bad is some devices use a full charge from empty to work out battery % (sort of) you might notice this with a phone or tablet where the device shuts down before reaching 0/2% when charged more frequently for shorter times.

Now charge time could also be adjusted due to the charge mode (cc,cv,tc) as the last part of this takes longer due to reduced power compared to the first part of the charge cycle but IMO this would not be something that you would notice unless getting anal with timing, although I'm only guessing about the way/method the crafty charges i have not rigged anything up to check.

I also agree leaving plugged in once fully charged is not the best thing to do, it shouldn't make any difference really as the crafty has protection inside and as long as that does its job everything is fine, unfortunately the way my head works i always think what if? Now IMO you have more chance of winning the lottery than your battery overcharging, but i still play the lottery knowing that i probably wont win but there's always that chance.

I charge mine both ways (full and short charges), as sometimes i do want extra bowls so run it flat, but either way IMO it wont have that much of a difference in overall battery life.

Best to use it the way that fits you most, enjoy it, use it, let it make you smile :D. Its always a good thing to get a better understanding of battery safety or how to get the best out of them but remember to have fun :science: as its easy to get wrapped up in getting the very best out of them, i know i have in the past:doh: but you do loose some of the fun.

Nothing more to add :bowdown:. Everything else about charging was already said. I would give you 2 likes for this post if I could.

Edit: or was it on the mighty thread?
 
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Vaporcussion

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Anyone else notice how hot the mouthpiece gets? Especially by the second/third session, with less battery life. It's getting annoying....
 
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Vaporcussion

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I guess I'm alone in this. I've actually had to resort to Mr Mellish's uncomfortable suggestion to ahem, "wet" the mouthpiece to keep it cool... It seems to happen more on the second session...
 
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Mr Mellish

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I guess I'm alone in this. I've actually had to resort to Mr Mellish's uncomfortable suggestion to ahem, "wet" the mouthpiece to keep it cool... It seems to happen more on the second session...

Ewww....I don't remember making that suggestion. In fact, since I only do one session in a session (?) mine never gets that warm.

What did I say to wet it with?
 
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Michel

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I guess I'm alone in this. I've actually had to resort to Mr Mellish's uncomfortable suggestion to ahem, "wet" the mouthpiece to keep it cool... It seems to happen more on the second session...

Try to use higher temps like 190'C. It will decrease needed airflow and probably the temp of the mouthpiece, too.
 
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Vaporcussion

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Ewww....I don't remember making that suggestion. In fact, since I only do one session in a session (?) mine never gets that warm.
Yes, ewww!
You used the word fellate; I'm still haunted by it, lol

Hmm, I do vape at very low temps, (352F) I will try it a little higher, thanks!
 
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Crafty Vaper

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Hi Vapers! Is here anybody who has got the Haze and the Crafty and could give me a short comparison between these 2!? I could buy the Haze for 200 €uro. Is it worth the price?
 
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