MiniVAP Vaporizer

lwien said:

Yeah, but the EVO typically goes through water, eh.

I know that some vaporizers are more harsh than others but is does that really have to do with how dry or moist it is? It may, when one considers excessive condensation like what could take place with the 'Cano. I agree that the Mighty and Crafty are good alternatives to the MV, but are they more............moist?

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I havnt used any of them so I can't really comment on that, Im not sure how to describe it but the hits from my nano even dry are are not harsh/dry as a volcano bag. Not saying anything is wrong with it though!

SecureSwede said:

I havnt used any of them so I can't really comment on that, Im not sure how to describe it but the hits from my nano even dry are are not harsh/dry as a volcano bag. Not saying anything is wrong with it though!

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I know what you mean with the volcano hits being harsh. My buddy has a volcano we use occasionally but the thing is so harsh it ruins the experience completely. His Verdamper on the other hand, boy that thing hits like a truck and the hits are so damn smooth. It has the best flavour out of any vape I've tried so I'm curious to see how the Mv will compare.

xhexk said:

I know what you mean with the volcano hits being harsh. My buddy has a volcano we use occasionally but the thing is so harsh it ruins the experience completely. His Verdamper on the other hand, boy that thing hits like a truck and the hits are so damn smooth. It has the best flavour out of any vape I've tried so I'm curious to see how the Mv will compare.

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But the Verdamper filters the vapor through water and the 'Cano doesn't. Kinda like apples and oranges, eh?

lwien said:

But the Verdamper filters the vapor through water and the 'Cano doesn't. Kinda like apples and oranges, eh?

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I can filter my cano through water as well and the hits are still dry.

SecureSwede said:

I can filter my cano through water as well and the hits are still dry.

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Maybe it's just semantics then. If vapor is filtered through water, how can it still be dry? I understand harsh, but dry?

Last Sept , Vapornation had the MV for sale ,
$390 shipped , that's still the best price I've ever seen .
It's too bad they can't offer some kind of 4/20 sale on the MV ,
or come closer to that sale price . Plus I read they're OOS .

And what about a Canadian distributor for the MV ?!

So I'm trying to attach the flexicone to the lid...

I've put the small silicone piece into the lid, but the flexicone doesnt sit in there firmly at all. (I'm trying to put the thinner side on, but its so flimsy.

xhexk said:

So I'm trying to attach the flexicone to the lid...

I've put the small silicone piece into the lid, but the flexicone doesnt sit in there firmly at all. (I'm trying to put the thinner side on, but its so flimsy.

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?? Not sure what you are doing? do you realize the two piece you show are two separate ways to use it?
The flexicone is the little silicone piece on the left.
The flexicone plus is the one piece cap with attached whip on the right.

Flexicone use: starting at top -- hard mouthpiece or whip snapped into cover, flexicone wedged into cover, round screen snapped into flexicone which keeps herb from being sucked into whip, wire basket with herb also snapped into flexicone. This flexicone module is the gold standard method, most common. Many use a longer whip instead of 2" hard mouthpiece shown.



Your flexicone plus would be similar-- basket and an upper screen would snap into flexicone plus.
Than run whip thru the cover and screw on cover.

For water piece with flexicone: unscrew cover, remove flexicone module and place in 14 mm female joint bubbler--picture below. Invert mV over the module and you are good to go. It literally takes 3 seconds to go from straight dry draws thru whip to bubbler use.


There about another 100 ways to use it too......

Thanks, just had my first session with it.

I let it heat up to blurble and started hitting it for about 5-7 seconds with a moderate-hard draw, and while I am surprisingly high right now, I was getting next to no vapour.

xhexk said:

Thanks, just had my first session with it.

I let it heat up to blurble and started hitting it for about 5-7 seconds with a moderate-hard draw, and while I am surprisingly high right now, I was getting next to no vapour.

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Try preheating to red. Once the light stops blinking, take it down to blurple and wait till that light stops blinking and then hit it.

When I first got my MV, I experienced the same thing as you are now. Two reasons could explain with this works. One, is that by preheating to red, you saturate the heater and heat chamber with heat. When the blurple light first goes off, it means that it has reached the desire temp but does not mean that the heat chamber is saturated with heat. The second reason may be because there could be a 10 degree window to the temp settings and that when you hit it when the light first goes off, you are at the bottom of that window. When you preheat to red and then back it back down, you are hitting it at the top of the window. It could also be a battery issue with a brand new batt. While the green light may indicate that it's fully charged, it actually may not be.

After having my MV for over a week now, I can say that I no longer have to preheat to red to get my clouds and I've recharged my MV a few times so that may, in fact, indicated a weak battery charge. It is known that with rechargeable, they tend to hold their charge longer (and possibly, have a bit more power) after a few charges than when they are brand new.

Edit: One other thing. I believe that the temp settings are calibrated to the temp when loading directly into the bowl. If this is the case, than it would stand to reason that when using the baskets, you are introducing metal that can soak up some heat. I read somewhere where MV has stated as such that if you are using the baskets, you may have to increase the temps.

One thing to definitely keep in mind though. MV has recently gone through some firmware changes and updates in regards to the heater so what may be true for one person may not be true for another.

But I agree with you totally about initially getting really, really high with any cloudage whatsoever. That totally blew me away about the MV.

So after a dozen emails back and forth during the last few days, Jorge finally agreed to send me a new MV battery and core. Alfredo said they never received my unit even though he had told me 2 months ago that he had repaired it. When I asked how this could be, he said

"In the last 3 months many units came to us to repair, many of them without a send's name or address, this is why we thought your vaporizer arrived and was being repaired."

I'm not sure how they were matching repairs to customers if "many" had no sender's information? If mine had no name or address, wouldn't he ask me questions to see if it was mine instead of just assuring me it was repaired? If there was no name or address, how did I get it back? Seems like a pretty chaotic scene at Hermes headquarters.

Anyway, Jorge told me today that "Now every time we process a faulty unit we make a RMA so anything gets lost."

They are sending me a new updated battery and core due by the end of the week. When I receive them and make certain they work as they should, I'll return my defective unit.

Hi everybody, it's a pity to deal with Hermes but as far as i m concerned, they did the job on my first unit,you just have to be very very patient...
Now i'd like to know how much loads you can do with a full battery?
Actually i can make about 10 loads with a full battery on burple or green.
At the beginning, it seemed that i could make more than 10 , any opinions?

lwien said:

Try preheating to red. Once the light stops blinking, take it down to blurple and wait till that light stops blinking and then hit it.

When I first got my MV, I experienced the same thing as you are now. Two reasons could explain with this works. One, is that by preheating to red, you saturate the heater and heat chamber with heat. When the blurple light first goes off, it means that it has reached the desire temp but does not mean that the heat chamber is saturated with heat. The second reason may be because there could be a 10 degree window to the temp settings and that when you hit it when the light first goes off, you are at the bottom of that window. When you preheat to red and then back it back down, you are hitting it at the top of the window. It could also be a battery issue with a brand new batt. While the green light may indicate that it's fully charged, it actually may not be.

After having my MV for over a week now, I can say that I no longer have to preheat to red to get my clouds and I've recharged my MV a few times so that may, in fact, indicated a weak battery charge. It is known that with rechargeable, they tend to hold their charge longer (and possibly, have a bit more power) after a few charges than when they are brand new.

Edit: One other thing. I believe that the temp settings are calibrated to the temp when loading directly into the bowl. If this is the case, than it would stand to reason that when using the baskets, you are introducing metal that can soak up some heat. I read somewhere where MV has stated as such that if you are using the baskets, you may have to increase the temps.

One thing to definitely keep in mind though. MV has recently gone through some firmware changes and updates in regards to the heater so what may be true for one person may not be true for another.

But I agree with you totally about initially getting really, really high with any cloudage whatsoever. That totally blew me away about the MV.

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Thanks for the info, I'll experiment a bit more tonight. I think I got a good unit because WOW was I high yesterday. I've never been that high of so little, the Minivap is a monster.

SecureSwede said:

I can filter my cano through water as well and the hits are still dry.

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I have found the MV to be too harsh without something added to the air path after the lid. For me, a glass mouthpiece, long whip, or water filtration make it one of the best hits I have had.

stickstones said:

...glass mouthpiece...

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Elaborate please........with pics. Thanks....

lwien said:

Elaborate please........with pics. Thanks....

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I will when it's time! I'm pretty sure there is a pic of my old set up in this thread somewhere...

lwien said:

Elaborate please........with pics. Thanks....

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I use a glass straw that came with my HerbalAire vape!
Fits perfectly through the lid and the Flexicone fits perfectly inside the glass straw.
Nice cool vapor and also a bonus of some reclaim in the glass.

Just to give you guys an update, Alfredo answered me finally after ignoring all my emails for 2 months overall. I have the address of his new office now, please PM me if somebody needs it, or should I post it on the thread? So we'll see how long the next step, discussing about what is covered by warranty and what isn't, and discussing about who is giving false informations, will finally take... I have already my reseller in the mail CC to support me if needed. So Hermes can't blame my reseller and my reseller can't blame Hermes to leave me alone with my weird unit giving wispy clouds in the end. Hopefully we'll find a solution all together! Already feeling like an advocate or a lawyer...

Sadly Hermes isn't answering technical question about the laminar heat flow. I guess this is his own secret like the location of lazylightnings MV
Hermes' relocation could be an explanation why @lazylightning 's MV disappeared in the middle of nowhere...

Vap974 said:

Hi everybody, it's a pity to deal with Hermes but as far as i m concerned, they did the job on my first unit,you just have to be very very patient...
Now i'd like to know how much loads you can do with a full battery?
Actually i can make about 10 loads with a full battery on burple or green.
At the beginning, it seemed that i could make more than 10 , any opinions?

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A real pity to deal with Hermes. But to answer your battery question as far as I can: it depends too much on the user, there isn't an objective answer comparing vapes and their battery life's without electric measuring equipment. And the MV isn't known for consistent temperatures...
I can vape 8-9 bowls with a brand new batterie (I did 15-20 charge cycles until yet). I vaped mainly on green and often on red. And I have one of the mysterious units getting me slightly high with sometimes even invisible clouds, sometimes massive clouds... But I'm still confident to enjoy a working MV in the (far) future thanks to the lot of very positive feedbacks on this thread. What gives me to think a little is I have a very high tolerance, perhaps way higher than some others using the MV. I can finish a full volcano bowl at 230'C in the morning and still function while being really high. Perhaps I'm functioning slower (I dont think so), but no one realizes I'm high apart my wife. The MFLB for example can only get me high with pure kief, I need 3-4 batteries and 1hour to get medicated... With flower only the MFLB is quite useless for me and leaves only a slight buzz behind. I don't want to offend anybody and I'm really jealous about @lwien with such a low tolerance, saving material, time and cash. Long talk, but @xhexk, I really think the MV shouldn't give "invisible" clouds. But you shouldn't listen to me, you should expirement for a few days to get to know your unit better by yourself to avoid the so called "new user error". Since you buyed from Hermes directly, you surely have one of the newest models.

Edit: @Vap974 the gcmv drains the battery slightly faster than the tcmv apparently. At least after Hermes. So there should already be a large difference between the units out there, not to forget about different softwares and heaters of course.

Can someone confirm please if the new black MV have overall the same color tone; batterie, core and lid? Or are there still large discrepancies? Perhaps I will try a silver one if I have the chance of a complete exchange. Thx in advance

Thanks Michel for your point of vue.
So after 2 months with my repaired minivap (new core, teflon), i'm very pleased.
The first unit gave me poor clouds even on green or red.
Now i only use the burple level and sometimes the green level with water.
But even it's fun with water, the taste is really better without.
I used to vape with only the flexicone+.With the time it's seems that my throat accept dry vapor.
When i run my minivap for the first time, i have to wait about 6-7 minutes before it get warm.As a session is about nearly 9 minutes, i have to push again the buttons on burple, then i can have a full session on the right temp.

Since two months, i have a poor quality herb (not much resin= not much clouds).
But yesterday i cut my Mobydick!!! So much resin! And a smell........I know that it will be perfect for my minivap.

Very enjoyed with my repaired MV , perhaps i was expecting a better finish for the price ( not the same finish between the core and the battery (bought in december with VN) but in overall with the good price (25% off ) it's a good invest.

stickstones said:

I have found the MV to be too harsh without something added to the air path after the lid. For me, a glass mouthpiece, long whip, or water filtration make it one of the best hits I have had.

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I 100% agree. I can't wait to see what you come up with too. I am also so jealous you have that Delrin WPA from @mestizo ! I remember thinking........

I don't have a MiniVap yet but I'm eventually going to get one so I should pick that up. That looks like a one time deal and especially useful.......

I have have been kicking myself ever since I got my Mini....

I have the Hermes glass 14 mm GonG, I have the @Ratchett 18mm SonG.....which I use most often and love.

But to be honest I am seeking a more solid solution to invert the Mini in my FC-187, or a bit more stability in a Hydratube.

Can you come up with that? Or bring back the DonG!

Until then......

MinnBobber said:

There about another 100 ways to use it too......

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lwien said:

with pics. Thanks....

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Well here's a couple I tried tonight....

Ok lwien, after @Mrmrmrmr 's reminder about the J-Hook setup I started playing around.

J Hook and SonG.......


Stays on pretty nice but the SonG can require adjustment. The K-Clip helps keep it together. Nice tasty vapor this way!

Or perhaps a cooler solution.....

This is how I have been using it lately. This is a two hand operation with one hand on the tamer and one hand on the Mini. The SonG works well in this setup because it creates a nice seal but is easy to pull off and clear.

Notice I am using a Female/Female here. I have asked 7th floor to make a Female tamer mouthpiece and was told they are going to make a batch. I look forward to that so I can shorten up the total length of this setup.

On the other hand if you are looking to extend the airpath and use the tamer, there is always this.....

If you just want to sit back and chill you can get away with one hand on this setup but don't plan on clearing the tamer unless you use two. Also the J-Hook is kind of awkward if you plan on clearing it. I was surprised that it felt a little different then the regular tamer mouthpiece.

I finished it off with this tonight......

Notice I'm giving you the table shot instead of holding it up. This is not just for the sake of taking the photo. At this point I am blown the fuck out!
This table is my nightstand and I'm in bed trying to finish this post up! The Mini KICKS ASS anyway you use it!

These are some fun ways to use it but honestly I use it with all my glass. I think the only thing I haven't tried it with is my HydraRecycler and that's mostly because that is mainly used with concentrates.

Regardless how you connect it, there are so many ways to use the MiniVap. I most definitely prefer it with cooling or water. I generally rotate through a dry/cool/water solution almost everytime I use it.

It's nice to have such a powerful vape without having to be teathered to a wall!

I really hope they work out some of the service/communication issues and come up with a good North American distribution option. Could that bring down the price a bit more too? If they did I think the MiniVap is a pretty tough to beat if you're in the market for a home portable.

This is my second one and it's going strong. At home I pretty much rotate the Mini, EVO and LSV. Feel pretty damn lucky to have them all and don't ask me to choose, cuz I just can't!

Howdy all,

A quick update on my unit - I bought it via VN, they aren't doing warranty and sent me to Hermes, etc.
So, on the 9th of April I get an email from Alfredo saying
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Send ONLY the mV core (please, clean it and DO NOT include the battery, lid, charging base or any other accessory, they are not necessary and it would increase the shipping cost) to the next address:

Hermes Medical-Jorge Fernandez

Paseo Laserna 5, 2

09001 Burgos, Spain


Please, declare a lower value of 50 dollars as an AROMA DIFFUSER.


I hope this help, but let us know if you need something else.


Thanks and best regards,

Alfredo
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So getting the email in the morning I package it up, get an Air Express slip complete, and toss it in the box. 3 days you say? Great! Then I get this:
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Dear Killick,

thanks for your email and sorry for our late reply.

Would you like to send the mV core to inspect it?

Please, let us know because we would send you the steps to ship it back to Spain.

Thanks and best regards,
Alfredo
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So I replied saying 'it should be there by now, and it has a copy of the email thread taped to the body of the core', and the serial number is XYZ123.

Hopefully they find mine sculling about somewhere. I imagine a large room, with 2 guys sitting at a 6 foot table in the middle of the room. They are surrounded by piles and piles of MVs. On the table there are a bunch of MVs on red and blinking. As each MV stops blinking each guy takes a flexicone, puts it in, and gives it a big ole draw... holds it, exhales, and says 'this one's OK' and tosses it into a pile on the left. After testing 3 vapes they get to refill their flexicones. After 2.5 hours they get a 'break' to answer emails, after all, lungs can only take so much abuse, even if it's healthy abuse... 'Do you know if I answered this last week? I should answer again just to be safe'. Anyways, I'm somehow in the system, so thats a good sign, right?

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@killick I love your imagination of the scene at Hermes. If that was true I'd go vacation in Spain for a few weeks and help them test returned MVs for free.

Man I want that SSFG hydraline sooo bad
How does it pair with the MV @scottg402 ?
Looks like you had fun last night.
As soon as my bent neck stemline comes in I'll be sure to post a video !
Used the last of the ww in the MV last night ,no more sativa for me

Mrmrmrmr said:

Man I want that SSFG hydraline sooo bad
How does it pair with the MV @scottg402 ?
Looks like you had fun last night.
As soon as my bent neck stemline comes in I'll be sure to post a video !
Used the last of the ww in the MV last night ,no more sativa for me

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I like everything about it with the exception of the splash. I wish the neck was a little longer or it had a splash guard but that's my only real gripe.

Outside of my HydraRecycler it has the least amount of diffusion of any glass I own so it preserves the taste pretty well. It's also relatively drag free so nice big rips = nice big clouds!

Outside of that I just think this piece looks cool as hell! It's one of the reasons I got it in the first place and the reason I see it staying in my collection for the foreseeable future. If I do ever decide to sell it I will PM you first before putting it in the classifieds.

So it's finally here!

Just got an email for the release on the 18th