turdhole
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read through the grasscity forums about the horror stories of ordering from grasscity, if they havent all been deleted by the mods. i'd stay away.
Cheap High Quality Bubbler
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read through the grasscity forums about the horror stories of ordering from grasscity, if they havent all been deleted by the mods. i'd stay away.
Thougt you guys might want to check out this triple perc, 14mm 8inch rig. unfortunately you need to order 20 of these guys T-T
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/wholesalethree-glass-water-pipes-glass-oil/215873171.html
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/wholesalethree-glass-water-pipes-glass-oil/215873171.html
BoogerMan
Well-Known Member
I just got my pillar recycler in too. Same issue.Completely agree with this. I think it may be to do with the splashguard in the funnel. If you look at the CCG video on their page and pics/vids of the real version, the splashguard is more pointed than how mine is, which is more conical. I wonder if this is having some adverse effect on the function of the funnel.
Anyway I made a video to demonstrate function and the fine line between that and a mouthful of water.
I still il enjoy the piece but it's a shame the function isn't quite right...
Quality is perfect but function is not quite there. Water level is very sensitive. If you pull too hard at the start you will get a drink. I think the vortex funnel definitely has an issue. I also think the pillar tubes need a larger diameter. Some of the spots where the pillars are welded is pretty small in diameter. I feel like the drag is coming from the pillars because the slits on my Showerhead look normal size.
Anyways I might use it for a while but I won't be keeping it for long I feel.
Has anyone contacted them about a version 2?
blankrider
Well-Known Member
Has anyone considered that the vertigo rendition of the pillar recycler just isn't that great of a design?
Because I have felt that way from the beginning but I think I stood alone. Everyone else keep asking for them but has anyone here hit the real thing. I think that this design incorporates form over function. It is unlikely that the people who spent big money on the real thing want to admit it was a waste. It would either make them feel foolish or there is a placebo effect of sorts that comes from the satisfaction of owning such an expensive piece. Since we are only spending about $50 it is much easier to come to grips with a design not being as good as you would hope.
Instead of trying to get a v2 made of this design I think it would be better trying to get new and different designs released
Because I have felt that way from the beginning but I think I stood alone. Everyone else keep asking for them but has anyone here hit the real thing. I think that this design incorporates form over function. It is unlikely that the people who spent big money on the real thing want to admit it was a waste. It would either make them feel foolish or there is a placebo effect of sorts that comes from the satisfaction of owning such an expensive piece. Since we are only spending about $50 it is much easier to come to grips with a design not being as good as you would hope.
Instead of trying to get a v2 made of this design I think it would be better trying to get new and different designs released
NickDlow
Log Hog
Well my Vertigo arrived today also and I'm going to have to disagree with you guys on the restricted draw. Imo it's not that bad, I've had worse. I will agree, if u pullto hard you will get a drink and the water level is sensitive. Also I don't believe the top chamber was meant to be a vortex chamber, I think it's just a spot for the water to splash into to avoid going up the MP. This is just my assumption.
But I like it n think it looks sweet too. The flavor is comparable to the FC-711, they're basicslly the same besides the shape of the piece. A showerhead perc kind into the pillar. Anyway here's a quick video.
But I like it n think it looks sweet too. The flavor is comparable to the FC-711, they're basicslly the same besides the shape of the piece. A showerhead perc kind into the pillar. Anyway here's a quick video.
SSVUN~YAH
You Must Unlearn, What You Have Learned...
Nice vid! I had to watch it a couple times, I seriously thought you farted at the 00.29 sec mark, damn shrink wrap!
NickDlow
Log Hog
BoogerMan
Well-Known Member
I lowered the water level of my vertigo and the drag is a lot less but now it barely recycles, like in @NickDlow's video. I like it better now though. I think I will give it a thorough test tonight, but I might be keeping it for a while. It's different which is nice 
@blankrider, I really think if the pillars were bigger and the vortex chamber was better designed (like removing that huge indent in the top of the vortex chamber and connecting the uptake tube to the side to help with vortex), it would be an awesome piece.
Anyways, on a brighter note, I also got the 18mm version of the Klein Incycler from Kathy. This design is slightly different than the 14mm version. The main difference is the Showerhead. The 14mm has maybe 6-8 slits, the 18mm has well over 20.
At first I was worried because the Showerhead on the 18mm is level with the return tube. But no issues at all. At the very beginning of the pull you can see a couple bubbles try to go up the return tube but they just get pushed back down!
No vortex but this thing rips and is fairly dragless
@blankrider, I really think if the pillars were bigger and the vortex chamber was better designed (like removing that huge indent in the top of the vortex chamber and connecting the uptake tube to the side to help with vortex), it would be an awesome piece.
Anyways, on a brighter note, I also got the 18mm version of the Klein Incycler from Kathy. This design is slightly different than the 14mm version. The main difference is the Showerhead. The 14mm has maybe 6-8 slits, the 18mm has well over 20.
At first I was worried because the Showerhead on the 18mm is level with the return tube. But no issues at all. At the very beginning of the pull you can see a couple bubbles try to go up the return tube but they just get pushed back down!
No vortex but this thing rips and is fairly dragless
Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
D-cycler just landed.
First impression after a quick water test is that it's surprisingly draggy.
Not bad, but definitely worse than my pillar cycler...
The holes/slits are tiny - thin cuts at the corner of the perc - giving tiny holes.
I normally like the thin cuts as it tends to give smaller bubbles, but there needs to be enough of em to ensure there isn't drag...
@blankrider
IMO the pillar cycler is a really nice little rig, it just needs a slight tweak to the return funnel to stop splash back with a harder draw.
Edit #3:
And the mouthpiece needs some slight tweaking too IMO.
I'm not the biggest fan of small closed mouthpieces, I'd rather see it opened up (the little ring collects water and makes it really hard to get the last few drops out), and it needs to come out another 1-2cm away from the inlet IMO.
I just fill my pillar cycler exactly like I do the mini pillar - fill up the chamber below the pillars, but no water in the dry chamber.
Edit:
Someone mentioned that the showerhead should be higher up - mine has maybe 5mm of space between the top of the showerhead and the bottom of the pillars.
I can't see much room for it to move, or if it would help all that much...
(Only thing I could think of for scale
- the gap is approx 1/2 of the height of a small oil slick ball lid )
I'd rather use the pillar cycler than the mini pillar
Another edit:
After the first dab, the d-cycler definitely was less noticeably draggy during the hit vs a water test.
Feels like an effort to get the water going, but then it smooths out a bit once everything is recycling.
First impression after a quick water test is that it's surprisingly draggy.
Not bad, but definitely worse than my pillar cycler...
The holes/slits are tiny - thin cuts at the corner of the perc - giving tiny holes.
I normally like the thin cuts as it tends to give smaller bubbles, but there needs to be enough of em to ensure there isn't drag...
@blankrider
IMO the pillar cycler is a really nice little rig, it just needs a slight tweak to the return funnel to stop splash back with a harder draw.
Edit #3:
And the mouthpiece needs some slight tweaking too IMO.
I'm not the biggest fan of small closed mouthpieces, I'd rather see it opened up (the little ring collects water and makes it really hard to get the last few drops out), and it needs to come out another 1-2cm away from the inlet IMO.
I just fill my pillar cycler exactly like I do the mini pillar - fill up the chamber below the pillars, but no water in the dry chamber.
Edit:
Someone mentioned that the showerhead should be higher up - mine has maybe 5mm of space between the top of the showerhead and the bottom of the pillars.
I can't see much room for it to move, or if it would help all that much...
(Only thing I could think of for scale
- the gap is approx 1/2 of the height of a small oil slick ball lid )I'd rather use the pillar cycler than the mini pillar
Another edit:
After the first dab, the d-cycler definitely was less noticeably draggy during the hit vs a water test.
Feels like an effort to get the water going, but then it smooths out a bit once everything is recycling.
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flotntoke
thoroughly vaped
D-cycler just landed.
First impression after a quick water test is that it's surprisingly draggy.
Not bad, but definitely worse than my pillar cycler...
The holes/slits are tiny - thin cuts at the corner of the perc - giving tiny holes.
I normally like the thin cuts as it tends to give smaller bubbles, but there needs to be enough of em to ensure there isn't drag...
@blankrider
IMO the pillar cycler is a really nice little rig, it just needs a slight tweak to the return funnel to stop splash back with a harder draw.
Edit #3:
And the mouthpiece needs some slight tweaking too IMO.
I'm not the biggest fan of small closed mouthpieces, I'd rather see it opened up (the little ring collects water and makes it really hard to get the last few drops out), and it needs to come out another 1-2cm away from the inlet IMO.
I just fill my pillar cycler exactly like I do the mini pillar - fill up the chamber below the pillars, but no water in the dry chamber.
Edit:
Someone mentioned that the showerhead should be higher up - mine has maybe 5mm of space between the top of the showerhead and the bottom of the pillars.
I can't see much room for it to move, or if it would help all that much...
(Only thing I could think of for scale
I'd rather use the pillar cycler than the mini pillar
Another edit:
After the first dab, the d-cycler definitely was less noticeably draggy during the hit vs a water test.
Feels like an effort to get the water going, but then it smooths out a bit once everything is recycling.
Have found the same as far as initial drag with D-cylcer and assumed this is just the nature of any recycler.
Is this not the case? This is my first of any type of recycler. I've stayed away from them because they look to me as though they would knock flavor down quite a bit. I think this one does a little compared to some of my other pieces, but not nearly as much as I thought it would. And, must admit it is fun to use! I've had a few showdowns with it and other pieces, but so far have ended up putting the others away. Have only had it for a week though, and we all know how fun it is to play with the new toy in the house! Still wondering how it will settle into the regular routine.
EDIT: Should have mentioned, I do LOVE this for dabs! It is definitely a top contender there. Comments above more for vapor.
mutten840
Well-Known Member
Got 2 pieces today and am loving both.
One was a frit disk bubbler with a cyclone disk from vaporizer china.
This is about 9 inches tall and has a very smooth hit to it. I feel it is on par if not better than my David goldstein frit disk piece I also have.
The second piece is the 8.7 inch vortex recycler from CCG.
This bad boy is small, but packs some serious flavor in the tokes. I am loving both pieces and do not have a single complaint I could give about either piece. The joints are all very smooth and well made. The glass is not super thick, but also not super thin.The bases are very thick and well proportioned for the size of each piece. I would say both pieces are very well made and work extremely well
One was a frit disk bubbler with a cyclone disk from vaporizer china.
This is about 9 inches tall and has a very smooth hit to it. I feel it is on par if not better than my David goldstein frit disk piece I also have.
The second piece is the 8.7 inch vortex recycler from CCG.
This bad boy is small, but packs some serious flavor in the tokes. I am loving both pieces and do not have a single complaint I could give about either piece. The joints are all very smooth and well made. The glass is not super thick, but also not super thin.The bases are very thick and well proportioned for the size of each piece. I would say both pieces are very well made and work extremely well
flotntoke
thoroughly vaped
They sure look it! Then again... imitation is the sincerest form or flattery - especially in this thread!
I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn that all of them are blown in the exact same room, nor would I be surprised if Chinese shops are coping each other. The GB 187 has been a great seller, and you know all the vendors on DHGate keep track of such things a lot more than we do - which is saying something. I'd also bet they can shift production quickly for anything that is turning over and turning a profit. Just make less of whatever else, and crank out more of these.
I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn that all of them are blown in the exact same room, nor would I be surprised if Chinese shops are coping each other. The GB 187 has been a great seller, and you know all the vendors on DHGate keep track of such things a lot more than we do - which is saying something. I'd also bet they can shift production quickly for anything that is turning over and turning a profit. Just make less of whatever else, and crank out more of these.
BoogerMan
Well-Known Member
Its crazy how your d-cycler has more drag than the pillar recycler.D-cycler just landed.
First impression after a quick water test is that it's surprisingly draggy.
Not bad, but definitely worse than my pillar cycler...
The holes/slits are tiny - thin cuts at the corner of the perc - giving tiny holes.
I normally like the thin cuts as it tends to give smaller bubbles, but there needs to be enough of em to ensure there isn't drag...
@blankrider
IMO the pillar cycler is a really nice little rig, it just needs a slight tweak to the return funnel to stop splash back with a harder draw.
Edit #3:
And the mouthpiece needs some slight tweaking too IMO.
I'm not the biggest fan of small closed mouthpieces, I'd rather see it opened up (the little ring collects water and makes it really hard to get the last few drops out), and it needs to come out another 1-2cm away from the inlet IMO.
I just fill my pillar cycler exactly like I do the mini pillar - fill up the chamber below the pillars, but no water in the dry chamber.
Edit:
Someone mentioned that the showerhead should be higher up - mine has maybe 5mm of space between the top of the showerhead and the bottom of the pillars.
I can't see much room for it to move, or if it would help all that much...
(Only thing I could think of for scale
I'd rather use the pillar cycler than the mini pillar
Another edit:
After the first dab, the d-cycler definitely was less noticeably draggy during the hit vs a water test.
Feels like an effort to get the water going, but then it smooths out a bit once everything is recycling.
I just did dry pulls from both pieces and my pillar recycler has more drag for sure.
Just shows you how inconsistent these China pieces can be
@NickDlow your "one" I posted a vid of just a couple posts up lol
I like it and it functions nicely. No vortex but not a big deal to me.
The Showerhead on the 18mm one I just got, your "one" has 15 slits. The Showerhead is lower on this one compared to the 14mm, your "two". The 14mm joint one, your "two" looks like it has maybe 6 or so slits on the Showerhead but the Showerhead is higher up.
I got the 18mm one because I'm tired of the 14mm joints and the neck and mp is kind of bong style which is different. I have so many flares mouthpiece 14mm rigs lol. I needed some variety!
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I didnt know they were adding turbo chargers to glass these days
NickDlow
Log Hog
Thanks @BoogerMan I even watched it too lol. I just couldn't tell my bad.
I really like this one but idk about that straight neck.
http://m.dhgate.com/product/grav-gold-large-klein-recycler-with-inverted/234242838.html
I really like this one but idk about that straight neck.
http://m.dhgate.com/product/grav-gold-large-klein-recycler-with-inverted/234242838.html
BoogerMan
Well-Known Member
Straight necks don't get used at my place much anymore, but here is a function vid.
Scroll to 1 minute to watch water test.
The inverted Showerhead gives it a large initial chug and then it smooths out. It's gonna take a big pull to get it going
And no joint support
Aaron
Well-Known Member
Don't care for the colors but I'm sure there's some interest. Hopefully they make a 9" clear egg soon.
9" Colored Fab Eggs from CCG
9" Colored Fab Eggs from CCG
I like that amber color, but don't like any of the pieces ive seen with it.Don't care for the colors but I'm sure there's some interest. Hopefully they make a 9" clear egg soon.
9" Colored Fab Eggs from CCG
blankrider
Well-Known Member
Steven just got that amber color and made a mini with it. He wanted me to let you all know that it is now available for sale
http://m.dhgate.com/product/2015-new-height-11cm-glass-bongs-glass-mini/235535820.html#pd-019
I asked what other colors he could get so perhaps we could get some cool new colors that don't scream China glass
http://m.dhgate.com/product/2015-new-height-11cm-glass-bongs-glass-mini/235535820.html#pd-019
I asked what other colors he could get so perhaps we could get some cool new colors that don't scream China glass
tepictoton
Well-Known Member
Honestly,
his prices have been going up and up and...well...up
I don't know anymore if I would prefer spending close to 100dollar on these rigs...it is hit and miss sometimes, and yeah, when they were 30bucks each that still would not matter. But with these prices if one gets one that is kracked, perc offset or something something then you are stuck with it...I guess I feel more confident then ordering trough a known website, like for instance here in Europe Head and Nature, paying a bit more, sometimes even the same, but knowing someone has quality checked the piece before shipping it out to me.
Just saying, if these chiness vendors want to keep us interested, they have to be really careful with increasing their prices like has been going on for a while now...or get their quality control up a level or two...
his prices have been going up and up and...well...up
I don't know anymore if I would prefer spending close to 100dollar on these rigs...it is hit and miss sometimes, and yeah, when they were 30bucks each that still would not matter. But with these prices if one gets one that is kracked, perc offset or something something then you are stuck with it...I guess I feel more confident then ordering trough a known website, like for instance here in Europe Head and Nature, paying a bit more, sometimes even the same, but knowing someone has quality checked the piece before shipping it out to me.
Just saying, if these chiness vendors want to keep us interested, they have to be really careful with increasing their prices like has been going on for a while now...or get their quality control up a level or two...
howie105
Well-Known Member
We are victims of success as more people order new glass prices rise. I suspect the law of supply and demand is fairly universal on that count. On the upside with the price increases we are seeing better glass, faster service and access.
ChiefKeefe
Well-Known Member
In my honest opinion your being absurd. A normal american mothership mini is over a thousand dollars. With one swing and no cap I believe.
How could one complain about a 70$ setup with 2 swings and a cap?
His diffusion pump knockoff is fair, his fc mini pillar is fair, his mobius knockoffs yes both are fair priced.
Infact I just ordered like 6 pieces from him and would of paid like 3k american for them..
Onto another topic...
@blankrider I have indeed owned the recyelr pillar by vertigo. I got it when it was new on the market. I did however love it, but can agree the water level is picky. Its not meant to vortex hard just recycle a lot of water. The problem seems the funnel chamber where they poked the whole in from the top, they pushed it way farther down then vertigo glass does. This seems to cause the splash up? I ordered one anyways and will see for myself and get back to all of you...
On that note I have a fc ufo, fc-186, fc-mini pillar, fc mini, vertigo ccg knockoff, d cycler knockoff, and ccg fabegg all on the way.
Hopefully comparw the egg to the kathy, and will review all other pieces for you guys.
Edit: @Aaron theyre is a clear ccg fab egg, not sure if 9 inches tho
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What do you expect when someone posts something like: " I would pay $100 for An Egg from Steven". They are watching. For me $50 is the top. They aren't doing the innovation. Search for "glass bong" on DHGate then sort by "price highest to lowest". There are eggs there for well over $400. If they think we will pay, the prices will stay high.