Vapman
- Thread starter spyder
- Start date
-
- Tags
- flame powered
SSVUN~YAH
You Must Unlearn, What You Have Learned...
You will need to drill a small hole in the bottom, add silicone tubing to blow into, and cap the top, for this to work. I too had this thought, no way am I destroying a vape over it though. How about you start a thread on this and we can all brainstorm on cheap towers of power?
subway13029
Well-Known Member
Hey 250 is a pretty penny but shipping is free all over the world is what facebook says..so it is total..and if u get the combo u get that and a classic vapman plus lighter plus screens for 350..which is not bad at all..I think vapman has priced his vapman very affordable and with the amount of time to make the station I think it is well worth it..im down..
Melting Pot
Sick & Twisted
Not bad but also not,Oh my god that's an awesome deal I better get it now deal.
Back burner!!!
A special FC deal would be nice. Imo
axakal
Well-Known Member
shipping is free, but the taxes still remain. i don't know, what you guys pay in the US, but i'd have to pay an 19% import tax and an aditional tax depending on the category the tower power ends up in. so it's at least 300 dollars as of now. i'm not whining, it's just not the right moment for me to spend this amount on it.
SSVUN~YAH
You Must Unlearn, What You Have Learned...
Dear friends of vapman It is our great pleasure to announce the launch of the vapman station! Vapman can now be used as a stationary electric powered and as a portable gas powered vaporizer, making it the first hybrid vaporizer on the market. The vapman station works with herbs and concentrates.
The statement above is incorrect. Maybe reword it to say first hybrid of this type or kind on the market.
Life really is good for ya @RUDE BOY glad your liking the price!
I wish I agreed, but a $100 increase over what was expected and hinted/suggested has me rethinking my VM purchase altogether.
The statement above is incorrect. Maybe reword it to say first hybrid of this type or kind on the market.
Life really is good for ya @RUDE BOY glad your liking the price!
I wish I agreed, but a $100 increase over what was expected and hinted/suggested has me rethinking my VM purchase altogether.
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
Life really is good for ya @RUDE BOY glad your liking the price!
Now you know $100 less would be nice, and it did actually take me months to save up $300 where 25 years ago that was just a good dinner and an evening in a club(chump change). Now that $300 is a lot harder to come by.
... Still I paid darn near as much for the WISPR when it first came out(EDIT: and feel I got my moneys worth of use out of it ) ...and see this as being worth more to me then it was.
Last edited:
OF
Well-Known Member
I agree. Consider the man has told us he's spent a LOT of time developing this and I bet he values his time at least as much as you and I? IMO he does have a real investment here. The price has to include at least part of that in addition to the cost of materials and production......which given the nature and volume will also be higher than normal.
I'm of the opinion that $250 is actually unrealistically low. If his design doesn't 'catch on' so he can 'make it up in volume' he's going to be SOL. A lot of detailed design, some of it 'sub contracted' out to local experts is involved. That raises the cost and the risk of failure.
I'm in. Fortunately, given the common 'too much for me now' response the fight for the first run should be less intense......
Regards to all, I've got a confirmation email to send. Best wishes to all for the weekend, Spring is happening here, no doubt about it.
OF
Unisonruss
Well-Known Member
I want a heating station so bad, but I can't justify the price 
Happy for all of you that get to buy one today.
Happy for all of you that get to buy one today.
SSVUN~YAH
You Must Unlearn, What You Have Learned...
It is a great product, I guess my jealousy is getting the best of me. In case anyone was holding out hope of a discount:
This is a very limited series of a high quality product, we are simply not in the position to give any discounts on that price. The price will not come down either, this is our final price and will stay there. Anybody holding the station in their hands will agree that the station is at least worth the money. Remember, it is not made in China.
Just received this email from the man himself.
This is a very limited series of a high quality product, we are simply not in the position to give any discounts on that price. The price will not come down either, this is our final price and will stay there. Anybody holding the station in their hands will agree that the station is at least worth the money. Remember, it is not made in China.
Just received this email from the man himself.
VAPEHUNTER
Well-Known Member
That's kinda the same thing I was thinking " I spent like $300 on the pinnacle pro" when it came out.
So $250, while still a lot of money, is not really a ridiculous asking price.
I also was considering picking up another Vapman to use as a "home unit only".
I already had $200 set aside so with a little adjusting of my monthly bills I think I can swing $310 For the heat station, Vapman, lighter, and screens.
Last edited:
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
Yes It's sort of the same in use as in "heat first, then hit", but No big heat exchanger or temp display also takes much less heat(small pocket torch) and time to get up to vaping temps.
The supreme gave bigger vapor clouds but was much heavier, bigger and less portable and better through a bubbler then dry.
OF
Well-Known Member
can't see this — I seldom argue for higher prices.
Kind of out of context, isn't it? What part of my reasoning did you disagree with?
TIA
OF
VAPEHUNTER
Well-Known Member
?
OF
Well-Known Member
Thanks for the reply. I hope you can see how when the only thing you quote me on is "I'm of the opinion that $250 is actually unrealistically low" without any specifics of what I based that on and then come back with some wise crack about 'I never argue with lower price' that I think that's taking my quote out of context (by removing all the context from my original post)?
I didn't make the claim this raised the cost, rather how it justified (IMO) the price asked. Big difference. I get it it didn't meet the $150 estimate, but that was an estimate. I look at it the other way I guess. So you don't think he's depending on future volumes (at we're now told at the same price) to recover his investment? Or that the design is not detailed/complex and that doesn't raise the cost of production? Or that using outside design efforts incurs extra costs and risks (potential problems he won't be able to resolve without more outside support for instance) doesn't impact the 'cost of goods sold'? We definitely disagree there I guess. I think those are all real, traditional, factors.
I agree that from a Free Market standpoint the price will lower the demand. IMO as it should. There is no doubt in my mind that S&B could do a huge volume and go broke with $100 Volcanoes.......
I'm assuming when you said 'raise the cost' you meant cost to buy, the sale price. IMO there's no question that such things raise the cost of making the product. It's that cost (to make and offer) that drives at least part of the pricing decision. You're right that the market will determine if the product at that price is competitive enough to be successful. Time will tell. I hope it is.
Thanks again, I think we're looking at this from different sides. You seem to view it as a consumer, focused on the price you have to pay against your expectations? I see it from the 'how much does it cost to bring this unit to the market', if that's too high it will fail, if not.....
I still think VM will take a serious hit at $250 if the volume is too low. His costs are just too high to allow lower pricing. Selling just a few at that price is unrealistic. You go broke that way. He's taking a real risk.....and knew it from the start. I wish him (and therefore us) good luck. He's got my money, or will have it in due time, but it'll take a lot more customers at $250 to 'break even', lower that even a bit and the number of needed customers goes up sharply, lower it too far an no volume will save you. Basic Bean Counter stuff.....bless 'em.
OF
NorVape
Vape Rictim
It's made in Switzerland. I'm Norwegian, and thus I am from the one place where everything is even more expensive than in Switzerland haha.
Point is, makin stuff in countries like René's and mine's respectively is very expensive. There is really no such thing as really cheap labour in econlmies like that.
Salaries are high, and prices are really high.
If I were to pop out for a can of Coke right now, it would be like four US dollars.
So I think wheter or not this heating station is very expencive to you depend a lot on were you're from. I'm used to everything being expensive, and I realize the cost of producing such a thing in such an economy as the Swiss one.
And remember guys, this will probably last you a loooong time
And to be clear, if my English made me come of as arrogant or Nationalistic, this was not my intention at all. I just wanted to share my knowledge of employing people and doing bussines in small, high income countries like ours
Damn, it's easier for me to explain vape stuff in English, than economy stuff haha
Point is, makin stuff in countries like René's and mine's respectively is very expensive. There is really no such thing as really cheap labour in econlmies like that.
Salaries are high, and prices are really high.
If I were to pop out for a can of Coke right now, it would be like four US dollars.
So I think wheter or not this heating station is very expencive to you depend a lot on were you're from. I'm used to everything being expensive, and I realize the cost of producing such a thing in such an economy as the Swiss one.
And remember guys, this will probably last you a loooong time
And to be clear, if my English made me come of as arrogant or Nationalistic, this was not my intention at all. I just wanted to share my knowledge of employing people and doing bussines in small, high income countries like ours
Damn, it's easier for me to explain vape stuff in English, than economy stuff haha
friedrich
Little-Known Member
I'm not sure about this... yeah, $250 is pretty expensive, certainly more than I was hoping, but considering its usability and features (assuming it works as advertised) against the competitors, I think it's reasonable.
As I mentioned in a previous post, it could be significantly more convenient to use than a log, for example. I really like the idea of just picking up the vapman from the station, taking a hit (either directly or through a 14mm female joint) and putting it back down, where it will be ready and waiting
Then of course you can grab a torch and take it outdoors!
My desk would no longer need to be quite so cluttered with a stem, GonG, chopstick, stir tool... and that cord!! always pulling on my nano or trying to sweep things off my desk when I pick it up...
So yeah, I still want one, but the price does make me more hesitant to become an early adopter. Hopefully we'll see some reviews, more video demonstrations or something soon.
OF
Well-Known Member
Yup, no doubt about it, the higher the price, the fewer the sales. It's a rule they tried to beat into our heads when I was in school. Comes complete with a graph of sale price (along the bottom?) and number of sales (up the side?) and lots of talk about 'outliers' above and below the line.
And for sure VM understands this. He made that nifty friction powered vape (no electricity or fire......) but at the price point he could afford to make them at, there were no sales (or not enough to keep the product alive). I'd live to have one, but for sure there's a limit to how much I'll pay for one.......
I sure hope you get into the game, assuming, of course, it works out well. It cool to see it evolving into a system, a process that reminds me of MF?
I sure hope you can get one at a lower cost, but if VM holds the line on pricing (we don't know what sort of discount he'll offer distributors if he decides to release it there) this may reduce your chances to used ones. Therein lies an interesting conundrum I think: If it's a great product very few will want to sell theirs off, if it bombs guys will be trying to get at least some of their money back. So getting a used one for cheap in the classifieds might not be a good thing.....
Then again, maybe it'll be so great the raving on the thread will change a few minds on how much it's worth? Wanna guess what I'm hoping on that one?
Regards to all. Shipping starts in a few weeks. Anybody can wait out a few more weeks right? After all, Grasshopper has been there for some time now........
OF