Discontinued Pax 2

I got the Pax 2, charged it right out of the box (even though it had 3 petals), and began using it....
I deliberately wanted to see how long it would last and if the battery indicator was accurate...
IT IS NOT. It died on 2 bars. Perhaps just at a hair over the point where it would have turned to 1 bar, as it was 2 bars all day. But just now, at 2 bars, it died. I wrote to PaxVapor and we'll see what we'll see.

Mr. Me2 said:

Keep the reports coming. I'm very interested in this accessory and want to know if its worth it. Is the bottom piece superior to the pax 2 screen (if you've tried it without the top piece)? Does it improve airflow? And I'm curious about your experience using the top piece only too. Thanks!

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bottom piece without the top piece lets little bits of debris through if you draw strongly. top piece with the pax 2 screen is my preferred method. I packed .08 and got 8-10 good hits. halfway through I turned up the temp from 2 to 3. So far I would recommend only getting the top piece, unless you want to pack very tiny amounts the bottom screen might be useful. Also, the bottom screen does tend to fall out very easy when i tap out my abv.

JoeMama said:

I got the Pax 2, charged it right out of the box (even though it had 3 petals), and began using it....
I deliberately wanted to see how long it would last and if the battery indicator was accurate...
IT IS NOT. It died on 2 bars. Perhaps just at a hair over the point where it would have turned to 1 bar, as it was 2 bars all day. But just now, at 2 bars, it died. I wrote to PaxVapor and we'll see what we'll see.

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Based off past experience, it might take a couple charges and drains to fully charge the battery. During this time there might be a discrepancy between the battery level indicator and actual battery level.

I am by no means a battery expert, just an observation with past battery level indicators right out of the box........ I will be interested to hear what the PAX Team thinks.

I'm goin on day 3 and 5 ovens two petals battery left! Love this vape!

Does this pax have the over discharge protections like the original? I'm assuming so. I'm still on my original bat on my Pax!

JoeMama said:

I got the Pax 2, charged it right out of the box (even though it had 3 petals), and began using it....
I deliberately wanted to see how long it would last and if the battery indicator was accurate...
IT IS NOT. It died on 2 bars. Perhaps just at a hair over the point where it would have turned to 1 bar, as it was 2 bars all day. But just now, at 2 bars, it died. I wrote to PaxVapor and we'll see what we'll see.

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I also charged mine completely before using it. After that first charge, I put it back on the charger not long after it reached one petal. It wasn't immediate, I did one short session at one petal. It had lasted what I felt was longer than I expected at two petals. The second charge was done specifically to run right until the battery died. As I reported here already, it lasted several sessions on one petal. These consisted of heating the P2 up, sometimes to four petals, taking 3 hits on average, and turning it off—not the most efficient use of the battery. I was pleased with how long it lasted. It certainly didn't die while I still had two petals. Having said that, the battery meters for Li-ion devices are notoriously inaccurate.

showersmoker said:

bottom piece without the top piece lets little bits of debris through if you draw strongly. top piece with the pax 2 screen is my preferred method. I packed .08 and got 8-10 good hits. halfway through I turned up the temp from 2 to 3. So far I would recommend only getting the top piece, unless you want to pack very tiny amounts the bottom screen might be useful. Also, the bottom screen does tend to fall out very easy when i tap out my abv.

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Did you see this one?

Vapor King said:

Game Changer!.... Take your bottom screen from the sandwich kit cut it down so it fits into the oven but cut it short enough that it leaves the hole in the oven uncovered. Now put the original pax 2 screen back in. You should now have very little draw resistance with the flat mp

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I guess if you use the top piece too it doesn't leave room for anything else!?!

So far I feel my bat meter is accurately represeting bat life.

Stringer said:

trying to decide between the pax 2 and firefly.

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I too own the FF, actually two of them, counting my wife's. But VAS is talking to me, telling me to buy a Pax2.

twigs said:

I too own the FF, actually two of them, counting my wife's. But VAS is talking to me, telling me to buy a Pax2.

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Let your VAS guide you.

Mr. Me2 said:

Did you see this one?



I guess if you use the top piece too it doesn't leave room for anything else!?!

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It's already a tight fit packing .1 without the added bottom piece. I'll try it out though.

Edit: I tried it out. Air flow felt very restricted. Also, the screens don't sit securely. vapor king's method was not a game changer for me. I prefer to just use the top piece. It's helped me conserve a lot of material and also eliminated the need to stir halfway through a session.

I got a SCS 3 piece today. First time I've had a grinder.

The Pax 2 definitely works better with a finer grind. In terms of producing thick vapor.

Ok folks here is my take on the Pax2 after a full week of heavy use, (5 ovens per day, 7 days=35ovens). First off let me say that this is the classiest/sleekest/most comfortable hitting vape I own. . I was a OG Pax owner but had passed it onto a friend because I didn't care for the high maintenance of the MP and unit itself, as well as the smell it let off even when it was off and taste degradation. For me, all the issues I had with the OG Pax have been addressed. . The taste lasts from beginning to end IMHO. I start on 1 petal and run to 4 petals for the finish and no complaints with flavor at all. I even tried to bump it back down to 2 petals from 4 to see what happened and it interestingly enough went back to pumping flavor!. I fill the oven a little over with SCS grinded material and pack it down hard. No need for a screen on top of the load, it stays put. The battery has been lasting me almost 7 ovens worth which, for a portable, is up there with the INH05s and the Mighty. . The part I was concerned about (more like fearful of) was cleaning the unit. I was pleasantly surprised how really simple it was. I popped off the silicone MP and ran a ISO soaked pipe cleaner down the airpath (which is wider then the OG? Looks it to me) popped the screen out and was finished wiping the oven clean within a minute!This vaporizer was well thought out and produced beautifully!. For a conduction vape it is tops. The flavor rivals the Indica and Ascent, but the form factor and user friendliness has got them beat. If you can afford the sticker price, It's a must for the serious vaper. If not, the Summit delivers a very close experience for about half the price.

showersmoker said:

It's already a tight fit packing .1 without the added bottom piece. I'll try it out though.

Edit: I tried it out. Air flow felt very restricted. Also, the screens don't sit securely. vapor king's method was not a game changer for me. I prefer to just use the top piece. It's helped me conserve a lot of material and also eliminated the need to stir halfway through a session.

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Very restrictive...?? Something is not right..?? I may not have explained it properly. The bottom screen from the sandwich kit has to be cut into 2/3 of its original size ( pax 1 ) dropped into the pax 2. not covering the hole. now take original pax 2 screen and put it in as tight as you want and can (im not using the top spacer...use without or a rolled screen) If done correctly you will physically hear the change in drawing air through it ( sounds like a wind tunnel...lol) never mind that you should feel very VERY little resistance. I should also mention that I don't pack a lot either...maybe half pack.. so if getting the most you can in the oven is a goal...the bottom screen will reduce that slightly.

JoeMama said:

I wrote to PaxVapor and we'll see what we'll see.

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Message me your support case number (from the confirmation email) and I'll bump you up the queue! I'm out of town for a few days but will get you into very good hands

Why is Pax putting different screens in the units?

Why did they change the design?

Why didn't they go back and replace the old designs screens with new ones?

Which one is better?

When they offer accessories will they be offering both styles?

.....I think Pax Vapor owes some body some screens.....

Vapor King said:

Very restrictive...?? Something is not right..?? I may not have explained it properly. The bottom screen from the sandwich kit has to be cut into 2/3 of its original size ( pax 1 ) dropped into the pax 2. not covering the hole. now take original pax 2 screen and put it in as tight as you want and can (im not using the top spacer...use without or a rolled screen) If done correctly you will physically hear the change in drawing air through it ( sounds like a wind tunnel...lol) never mind that you should feel very VERY little resistance. I should also mention that I don't pack a lot either...maybe half pack.. so if getting the most you can in the oven is a goal...the bottom screen will reduce that slightly.

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Vapor King said:

Why is Pax putting different screens in the units?

Why did they change the design?

Why didn't they go back and replace the old designs screens with new ones?

Which one is better?

When they offer accessories will they be offering both styles?

.....I think Pax Vapor owes some body some screens.....

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Probably because of the results from the following experiment. I removed the MP so that it doesn't influence the flow, removed the oven door, and pulled through the P2. While pulling, I replaced the oven door and noticed an immediate increase in drag. In other words, the oven door is the source of more restriction than the screen. I therefore don't understand how replacing or altering the screen makes any difference. I first did this experiment with the original Pax when people were making similar claims about changing its screen, with the same results: the oven door was the point of highest restriction. That didn't stop people from claiming that doing things to the screen made a big difference, however.

pakalolo said:

Probably because of the results from the following experiment. I removed the MP so that it doesn't influence the flow, removed the oven door, and pulled through the P2. While pulling, I replaced the oven door and noticed an immediate increase in drag. In other words, the oven door is the source of more restriction than the screen. I therefore don't understand how replacing or altering the screen makes any difference. I first did this experiment with the original Pax when people were making similar claims about changing its screen, with the same results: the oven door was the point of highest restriction. That didn't stop people from claiming that doing things to the screen made a big difference, however.

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They did it because of the oven door experiment????

I agree with where most of the resistance is but it wasn't changed for no reason....I would guess (maybe the pax boys can enlighten us)

My guess is that the screen if pushed in too tight that you could draw the screen against the hole....so little indent to rest the screen evenly to maintain even air flow

During your experiment did you find that you had more resistance with the screen in or without. if you found it less without then it would stand to reason that altering and doing things to the screen would make a big difference

Here's my post from reddit about the screen:

Ah, the feet! First and foremost your devices are too legit to quit, and totally good to go whether you received the smooth screen or the one with these feet.

The functionality, method of cleaning, and way you insert the screens are exactly the same. No one will see a difference in performance between the two if you know how to insert it the traditional way.

These feet are there more so for the new PAX users - if someone pushes the screen too far down then the smooth screen could possibly block the airpath. With the feet, it will allow some space so the opening isn't occluded.

We recommend inserting both screens the same way: with one end in the corner of the oven furthest from the vapor stem's opening, then letting the other side fall loosely so it sits at a high angle. Seal the deal by pressing gently in the middle until it stays in place. A properly placed screen wont rely on the feet to keep it in place, so nothing has changed there. Just keep doing what you guys are doing!

http://www.reddit.com/r/ploompax/comments/31slvf/what_are_these_dents_in_my_pax_2_screen/cq5sbx5

I am sure this was already asked and answered, but I could not find the answer........ what tune is the PAX playing when you shake it?

Day (1) I heard the tune and wrote the noise off as hearing things due to overindulgence in extreme excess. Tried to tell my wife I heard the thing talk to me...... and I tried to show her, but no sound.

Hummed the tune for a few days (feeling a bit crazy I must say) until I finally figured out it happens when you shake it. I felt like a mad scientist when I yelled Ah Ha from the lower level of my house and ran to show my wife I was not crazy (although the act of running and yelling only confirmed)

I now hum the tune non stop and even occasionally dance to it at random.

Anyone know the tune that it is playing??

Ojan_at_PAX said:

We recommend inserting both screens the same way: with one end in the corner of the oven furthest from the vapor stem's opening, then letting the other side fall loosely so it sits at a high angle. Seal the deal by pressing gently in the middle until it stays in place. A properly placed screen wont rely on the feet to keep it in place, so nothing has changed there. Just keep doing what you guys are doing!

http://www.reddit.com/r/ploompax/comments/31slvf/what_are_these_dents_in_my_pax_2_screen/cq5sbx5

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I have that same thing others have mentioned...after my first time popping out the screen, it never seems to sit evenly in the often after re-placing...one of the long edges sits ever-so-slightly higher than the other. It isn't loose, or falling out (even when empty) and doesn't seem to have any negative impact on functionality, so it doesn't bother me. But it appears a little odd if you look closely.

Ojan_at_PAX said:

Here's my post from reddit about the screen:

Ah, the feet! First and foremost your devices are too legit to quit, and totally good to go whether you received the smooth screen or the one with these feet.

The functionality, method of cleaning, and way you insert the screens are exactly the same. No one will see a difference in performance between the two if you know how to insert it the traditional way.

These feet are there more so for the new PAX users - if someone pushes the screen too far down then the smooth screen could possibly block the airpath. With the feet, it will allow some space so the opening isn't occluded.

We recommend inserting both screens the same way: with one end in the corner of the oven furthest from the vapor stem's opening, then letting the other side fall loosely so it sits at a high angle. Seal the deal by pressing gently in the middle until it stays in place. A properly placed screen wont rely on the feet to keep it in place, so nothing has changed there. Just keep doing what you guys are doing!

http://www.reddit.com/r/ploompax/comments/31slvf/what_are_these_dents_in_my_pax_2_screen/cq5sbx5

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Thanks for explanation!!

Will both be available as an accessory?

Vapor King said:

Thanks for explanation!!

Will both be available as an accessory?

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You're very welcome! I don't have the official word yet, but I'd imagine we'd pick one or the other since they're pretty much identical.

You should expect to see accessories on our site by the end of the month so be sure to check back.

Dexter 1980 said:

I am sure this was already asked and answered, but I could not find the answer........ what tune is the PAX playing when you shake it?

Day (1) I heard the tune and wrote the noise off as hearing things due to overindulgence in extreme excess. Tried to tell my wife I heard the thing talk to me...... and I tried to show her, but no sound.

Hummed the tune for a few days (feeling a bit crazy I must say) until I finally figured out it happens when you shake it. I felt like a mad scientist when I yelled Ah Ha from the lower level of my house and ran to show my wife I was not crazy (although the act of running and yelling only confirmed)

I now hum the tune non stop and even occasionally dance to it at random.

Anyone know the tune that it is playing??

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thats funky town bro! I just beat Simon last night to get this bad boy! Dodododo do do dodo do

Ojan_at_PAX said:

You're very welcome! I don't have the official word yet, but I'd imagine we'd pick one or the other since they're pretty much identical.

You should expect to see accessories on our site by the end of the month so be sure to check back.

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Pretty much identical but not identical and slightly improved

I'll bet you a pack of screens they will be the ones with the feet

berman1125 said:

thats funky town bro! I just beat Simon last night to get this bad boy! Dodododo do do dodo do

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Thank you and congratulations!!