Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci

I'm curious about why so many people put screens in the bottom of the bowl. Are you grinding your bud fine? I just pack the coursely ground material in the bare bowl and don't experience any leakage thru the holes. It also seems like the screen would limit conduction. Hits seem potent to me but I am not as much an aficionado as many posting here so I may be more easily impressed.

MedicatedPensioner said:

I'm curious about why so many people put screens in the bottom of the bowl. Are you grinding your bud fine? I just pack the coursely ground material in the bare bowl and don't experience any leakage thru the holes. It also seems like the screen would limit conduction. Hits seem potent to me but I am not as much an aficionado as many posting here so I may be more easily impressed.

Click to expand...

I did it before I ever used my Ascent because I wasn't sure the holes wouldn't leak material. I didn't know what else to do with the screens anyway. I don't think the screen changes conduction at all, since the bottom of the bowl isn't heated.

I find some herb gets through the holes without the metal screen. Not a lot gets through but every bit counts

MedicatedPensioner said:

I'm curious about why so many people put screens in the bottom of the bowl. Are you grinding your bud fine? I just pack the coursely ground material in the bare bowl and don't experience any leakage thru the holes. It also seems like the screen would limit conduction. Hits seem potent to me but I am not as much an aficionado as many posting here so I may be more easily impressed.

Click to expand...

I'm with you, it makes no sense to me either.....but then it's not my views in control? I see little harm in the idea. It will add a bit of restriction I guess. Not doing it has a worst case risk a tiny bit of herb escapes? Not an issue for me, but it could be for some. For sure it's not the traditional use (keeping bits out of your mouth). Their call, perhaps on the 'chicken soup' level ("can't hurt, might help") although I too don't see t he advantage. To me.

In that same sorta vein I'm not sure what being "an aficionado" has to do with this. It's not a team sport. What's good for you is good for you. What's good for me might not be? One thing sure as this vaping thing grows you're not alone with most any idea of what's best. We got us a great big old tent going here. We've got a guy using a gram a month. One gram. And another who rolls seven gram blunts (and needs some help finishing them......sometimes if IIRC). We have MMJ types that struggle for a much needed sip or two of medicine and other 'real men' who aren't happy until they can get guys passing by in the street turning on their headlights to see thorugh the fog......

I think the screens are better used on top, keeping debris out of the airpath, FWIW.

My adivice is to consider what others say, experiment and find what works best for you and if you're so inclined pass that information on for others to consider.

Thanks again, glad you're finding personal enjoyment in your Ascent, that is why you pay money for it, right?

OF

Been reading all night lol and am wondering if maybe I am grinding too fine. I'll be playing with my Ascent and reading all day I'm sure lol makes for a good day I'd say!

MedicatedPensioner said:

I'm curious about why so many people put screens in the bottom of the bowl. ...

Click to expand...

I did because several screens came with the unit. Figured they must be intended for use and couldn't see an alternative place. They fit perfectly there.

I have never used a screen in the bottom of the bowl. I haven't had any problems with anything falling from underneath. I do occasionally put a screen just below the stem above the bowl. I think a medium grind works well for me. What @OF said, just because something works for one person doesn't necessarily fit someone else's needs.

The Ascent can be hard vaporizer to get used to, but when you do it's worth it. Some are sippers and others like the lung buster draws. I'm somewhere in the middle.

I usually use 6 - 8 glass flowers and I use a thin layer of cotton on top. I use slow draws and wait 30 seconds or so before the next draw. I start off at about 365 and work my way up to 385 degrees sometimes I go higher. Usually my ABV is evenly browned. I throw my ABV away afterward because sometimes the glass flower petals will break off. So I don't save for edibles, just me being extra careful.

This unit does take a bit if a learning curve. Reading through the thread is your best way to get to know this little gem of a portable vaporizer.

Do not give up on fucking combustion your health is at risk if you keep on smoking.

Picked up the 14mm water tool adapter today. GAME CHANGER!!! For me anyway. Much better vapor production. I cannot recommend using this as the mouthpiece more. With this as the mouthpiece the Ascent knocked me on my ass with very little herb. Haven't been this ripped for years! I feel like this is how it should be! Couldn't be happier!

Thanks for all the help and support!!

MedicatedPensioner said:

I'm curious about why so many people put screens in the bottom of the bowl. Are you grinding your bud fine? I just pack the coursely ground material in the bare bowl and don't experience any leakage thru the holes. It also seems like the screen would limit conduction. Hits seem potent to me but I am not as much an aficionado as many posting here so I may be more easily impressed.

Click to expand...

@MedicatedPensioner ,

I grind my bud super fine after it has dried out a bit from my curing containers.
I also pack my load down pretty tight.
I use 2 fine mesh screens, cut in an oval shape slightly domed upwards, in order create a gap between the bottom of the bowl and the load.
This allows air to flow through the holes and evenly come up through the load.
If I don't do use the screen, the holes will be plugged up by the fine grinded herbs.
I also use the a fine mesh screen at the top of the bowl right at the glass filter, domed downwards.
Using these screens allows my load to be vaped uniformly.
When I didn't use these screens, I noticed an uneven vaped load.
Also, the glass filter, inner and outer glass stems would get filled with bits of herbs.
The key factor for me is the fact that I grind very fine and I mix my unpressed bubble with my loads also.

By grinding super fine, I'm able to pack a lot into the bowl, and with the bubble mix, a load can last me up to a 3-5 sessions.
This is very convenient when I'm on the go since reloading is kept to a low frequency.

To each her/his own....

I recently read someone's post in here and tried their absolute opposite extreme method of simply packing in a fat nug into the chamber.
It definitely tasted much different.

I've tried course grind, medium grind, hand torn...

My love for her is unconditional.
She adapts to my situations.

No wonder my wife is so jealous!

kgb33 said:

Picked up the 14mm water tool adapter today. GAME CHANGER!!! For me anyway. Much better vapor production. I cannot recommend using this as the mouthpiece more. With this as the mouthpiece the Ascent knocked me on my ass with very little herb. Haven't been this ripped for years! I feel like this is how it should be! Couldn't be happier!

Thanks for all the help and support!!

Click to expand...

Well, search was no help and no way I am going to try to read back through this entire thread to figure it out. What is a water tool adapter and how does it work?

MedicatedPensioner said:

Well, search was no help and no way I am going to try to read back through this entire thread to figure it out. What is a water tool adapter and how does it work?

Click to expand...

Yes, the search tool isn't the best on this forum, I usually use google search and limit results to the fuckcombustion.com domain

http://www.davincivaporizer.com/glass-straight-water-tool-adapter-14mm/

This has been mentioned many times throughout the thread. Basically people are using this instead of the retractable mouthpiece for dry vaping (yep, put your lips on the ground glass side). This increases the Ascent's performance dramatically because it eliminates the cool air entering the vapor path (via the gap between the inner and outer retractable stem)

Using this adapter will change 3 aspects of your Ascent vaping experience:
1) Increased draw resistance
2) Greater density vapor clouds (for those who desire to cloud chase)
3) More throat irritation at higher temps

A pic of my Ascent specialty mouthpieces. Also the glass flowers here.

CarolKing said:

A pic of my Ascent specialty mouthpieces. Also the glass flowers here.

Click to expand...

How many glass flowers do you use? I've been using 3.

You can use as many that works well for you. I use between 5 and 8 flowers depending on how much herb I use. That's what's so great about the flowers, you can adjust your amount of meds.

Vicki said:

How many glass flowers do you use? I've been using 3.

Click to expand...

My standard load is seven. 2 on their side in the bottom, about 1/3 the bud on top, 3 (again on their side) next, covered by the remainder of the load. Finally the last 2, 'thumbtack style' on top (which makes opening/closing easier and keeps the ports in the top cleaner.

Early on I tried more and less, but convinced myself that technique gives me the most vapor production from a reasonable size load. YMMD as they say, in fact probably will?

A big plus, I think, is to dump the load and break it up while still hot. I use a metal mint tin for this. Doing so keeps the flowers clean enough to use again without any more effort. I usually pluck the flowers out of the ABV and put them in the lid half of the open tin then reload for next time.....which usually isn't all that long a wait.

OF

CarolKing said:

You can use as many that works well for you. I use between 5 and 8 flowers depending on how much herb I use. That's what's so great about the flowers, you can adjust your amount of meds.

Click to expand...

I think it also depends on the size of the glass flowers.

Vicki said:

I think it also depends on the size of the glass flowers.

Click to expand...

Good point. I use two of the largest ones in the jar for the 'thumbtack from the top' ones, otherwise smaller heads, the stems are all about the same in the ones I have, pack in easier on their sides. The two big ones I'm currently using are both blue, making them easy to spot/pick out from the rest.

Not critical, or even important, most likely but I like a routine I can follow and get uniform, predictable results.

OF

My Ascent obviously was leaking air without the water tool. For me the bottom of the water tool butts up against the bottom silicon seal. Seriously like day and night. Out of everything I've tried this is by far the best tip I've come across for the Ascent! Honestly the difference for me was so huge that it should come as the mouthpiece right from Davinci!
No throat irritation here yet. Now this is going to make a huge difference in the amount of material vaped. This made the original mouthpiece obsolete for me.

No this should not be the default mouthpiece, instead they should fix the leak at its source: the buddy rim silicone piece! @nigel told me they are well aware of the problem but it's unclear whether a fix will see the light some day or not...

That was me being polite. The fix should be fairly simple on the stock mouthpiece. I'll be playing with it myself soon. Should I have to tweak a 300 dollar vape out of the box? No. Obviously not but I'm happy it's working the way I want now.
If it hadn't been for the great help I'd received here and for my local shop being an authorized dealer I would have gotten off the Davinci bus a couple months back.

Devinci_vaporizer said:

When you sent your message regarding the glass spacer, I couldn't help but notice you made your account the same day. This is a gift to the forum members that helped us create the spacer from the beginning and our goal is to get solid conversation and feedback from them. There were several accounts that were made that day, or a day or two later with zero activity and they were all disqualified. I hope you understand.

Click to expand...

Davinci_vaporizer said:

Your account had zero activity and was created to day you messaged us. You are not the only account. There were several accounts to message us asking for spacers created that day with zero activity. It even says in your signature that your "Devinci" Ascent is for sale...

Click to expand...

Some of us have been around here longer than Devinci. It's not real uncomon to have people read forums and never sign up. I have come hear to learn the in's and out's of Vaping for years.
I own both the original and the Accent. I have also had severall phone conversations with Devinci about the various issues with your new device. Like always CS has been great, until now.
I undestand your wanting forum members feedback on the spacers. The spacers that have been on a boat for 2 months.
Take a minute and read your quoted post below, were does it say i need to be a long time active member ?? Being a customer isn't good enough ?? Surely you could verify that. My device's are registered.
$279 and i am dealing with air leakage and have to play the load my bowl just right with a bunch of jacks to hope it works as good as last session. Very inconsistant !!! I have been more than patient with this device, but am not willing to wait another 2 months for the bowl spacers that have been on a boat forever.
Yes it's for sale, wana buy it back ??? Kidding... It is a very good back up. I even rock out my OG Devinci every once and awile.

Davinci_vaporizer said:

WE ARE READY TO RELEASE GLASS SPACERS FOR BETA TESTING!!
The spacers are not ready for sale yet. We have a solid idea for a prototype and we are ready to let them lose for you guys. We are doing an exclusive FC release on these. If you are interested, please message us your email and I will contact you for more information! There have been several people who have already contacted us and expressed interest. We will get to everyone we can, but if we missed you and you contacted us in the past please contact us again to make sure we get you some spacers to test.

Thank you guys for all the love and support! We couldn't do it without you. Now let's get to it!

Click to expand...

turbovap said:

Take a minute and read your quoted post below, were does it say i need to be a long time active member ?? Being a customer isn't good enough ??

Click to expand...

Bummer you're left out, I can understand your POV I think. But I also see theirs, too?

They announced an exclusive test program (emphasis mine). To me that means some are included, some are not? Their program, their call?

I'm making a (hopefully) educated guess here that the idea is they wanted to put a limited but reasonable number of units in test with FC members hoping we'd share our experiences freely and openly here. To me, that makes screening volunteers for posting history quite reasonable. I hope you can see the logic of that?

Going way out on a limb, I think they'll start including the spacers with new units. Assuming they remain low in cost and give the hoped performance improvement. If not, another round of testing is in order?

When that happens (when they 'go into production') I'm betting they'll have a free or 'postage only' sort of deal for the current customers, for the very reason you point to. You paid full price as an early adopter, it's in their best interest that you not be penalized for that.......and in fact should go to some effort to be sure everyone knows they take care of early adopters so folks won't cop 'I'm going to wait until all the problems are fixed' attitudes?

Fingers crossed......

Regards,

OF

No Hate, just disapointed. I do see and understand there point, now that it has been spelled out for me...lol
My side is i have been in conversation with them about said spacers for awile. They also talk about a container of spacers coming from China, nothing i remember about still being in the R&D stage.
At the end of the day life is to short to get all wound up over bowl spacers and a $279 vap.
No company is perfect but i still say Devinci is a pretty solid co.
Ok, i sucked up, were are my spacers...lol

Davinci_vaporizer said:

Hey Everyone!!

We will be collecting emails until the end of the week, Friday, April 3rd. This gives everyone a week to get a hold of us and get their information down. Being that I am in China, the most effective way to go about this is a big list and a big shipment. That way there is less of a chance of oversight and missing people.

Please have your email address private messaged to us by Friday April, 3rd at 5:00PM PST.

Click to expand...

Bummer, I haven't been reading this thread and just saw the request for beta testers today so messaged inquiring about it. Then saw that I was a week late. I'll keep using the glass flowers until something better comes along, whether from Davinci or a third party.

I will say I love the ascent - love the flavor and the effectiveness with very little herb. My Buddha has been sitting around unused since the Super bowl.

Ascent has been working great but went to clean it as I do at least every other day as it's my daily driver and found two chunks of the little lip missing