Discontinued Pax 2

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I've been reading a lot of people complaining about the mouth piece....and it getting hot. I've also read people saying that they like the old MP better. couple solutions I've tried and seems to work...

Like old MP
The old MP will fit ...pull the tube off and cut the plastic down a little bit ...lines right up.. has some air leaks but as you will see can be sealed with lips if it's an issue

MP get hot
take a drill bit and by hand just spin in the new and improved raised MP from the bottom through one of the holes.... clear that rubber flap out of the way....no more MP getting hot

I made a quick video with the Pax2 and the vapexhale honeycomb hydratube: https://instagram.com/p/1MKSD3rGIc/?taken-by=vaporizerwizard

Edit: In the video the oven has an 80% pack, with the mflb finishing grinder, and on temp3

Hey, have u guys noticed that sometimes when your puffin on the pax2, vapor comes out on the 'oven' end. Have any of u guys experienced this? Trying to figure out if its normal? Maybe im packing too much in the oven but I don't try to overfill.

I think you are slightly blowing out

pax on glass gets me riiiiiiiiiiiiiipt!! Party mode is fun too because it lights up my glass as it fills with vapor.

I used to see vapors escape from the pax1 oven if I either waited too long after the oven was running or if I accidentally blew a little out through the moutpiece.

Mine arrived yesterday. I'll give it a test drive maybe later today. Nice size

I just received the PAX 2 yesterday and had a couple of sessions on it last night. Here are my impressions. My background with vaping - I had the hotbox, then Arizer Solo. Never liked the hotbox and I found the Solo too cumbersome. The Solo stopped working last month; I sent it back and they are unable to fix it which is something to note. They have a 2 year warranty and once that's expired there's nothing they can do as they will not fix the 'electronics'.

I now use my PAX, Ascent DaVinci and now the PAX 2. I have the Arizer Air in a box only to be opened on my birthday in a couple of weeks (gift from my wife).

My issues with the original PAX have been well documented here. It gets hot on the mouthpiece, continually roasts the herbs throughout the session and as a result the taste is lost after the first few drags. I also found the taste becoming harsh causing me to cough - I use the middle (Orange) setting. Cleaning the PAX has been an issue as we all know.

I've been using the Ascent when at home because the taste, draw and general vaping experience is better than the PAX. I would still take the PAX outside the home because of excellent portability.

The PAX 2 has changed everything. ALL my criticisms have been addressed. It does not get hot with the flat mouthpiece. The taste is as good as or better than the Solo and Ascent. It does not continually roast the herb between inhalations. The experience is not harsh but mild in comparison to the original PAX. The 2 is even more compact AND has a longer battery life. And the icing on the cake is the ease of cleaning.

I think they hit a home run with the 2 and my search for the best vape out there has ended. Not sure how the Air will match up.

I got my pax 2 a couple days ago and have ran about 3 bowls through it, a couple lightly packed bowls and then a completely packed bowl all from my Santa cruz shredder. I have owned a original pax and currently own an Air, mighty, solo... I like to take big long pulls that fill my lunch and my issue with the pax 2 is the vape clouds and vape density has been very poor compared to anything I have owned. Now I'm pretty sure it's a user error in just looking for alittle help or input

Any new vape I've bought had a learning curve. For me, anyway.

I charged it up when I first got it with one of the apple charging docks, don't know if that matters

I received my platinum Pax 2 a couple days ago and I've had the opportunity to blast through four sessions. Here are my findings thus far as a user who has never owned the original Pax:

The Pax 2 was actually more stealthy than I anticipated and the Platinum finish is quite striking. My first session had some bumps primarily due to my own stupidity. I actually thought you could vape from the temperature mode like the Solo where you just change temperature level and pull. I set temp to the highest level and didn't get any vapor, so I pulled harder, still nothing! Anyway I finally figured out you had to exit the temperature mode for the device to function. I set the Temp to Level 3 and my session began.

Flavor: I was quite satisfied with the flavor and IMO it's better than the Solo from start to finish. I never got that heavy burnt popcorn taste you get from the Solo toward the end of a session... Even at the highest temp setting.

Vapor Quality: I was actually pleasantly surprised with the smoothness of the vapor. I blew nice tasty clouds on level three and then went up to level 4 and the clouds were huge and the flavor degradation was minimal... Great vapor quality and better than the Solo in my opinion. I repeat...very smoth vapor even at temp 4!

Extraction: i did not find the need to stir and the ABV came out fairly even with 60% dark brown and the rest more of a medium brown. What really impressed me was the ability to get full extraction with a moderate .15g load in about 8 draws. In contrast, to get full extraction with the Solo I need to huff and puff for about 15 minutes and maybe 20 draws. The Pax 2 better meets my need for speed criteria for a portable!

Loading and Unloading: Loading herb was simple. The size of the oven is great and can accommodate a smallish .08g load up to a full load of about .33g. Very versatile for diverse users... As far as unloading the ABV, I reccommend having a toothpick or dabbing tool available to agitate the material prior to dumping. The material tends to stick in the oven and tapping the device is usually not enough to empty the load.

Charging and Battery Life: as others have stated the charging cradle is easy to attach, charging time is not long and battery life is exceptional for a portable of this size.

Cleaning: haven't had the need to do it yet, but It seems to be very easy so I don't anticipate any negatives in that regard.

The flat mouthpiece works so well I havnt even tried the other one. From past posts it seems most prefer the flat mouthpiece as compared to the other one..

Party mode, flashing lights, simon and Funky town: I don't know and I don't care. I suppose nice features that some people will enjoy, but at the bottom of my list on the importance factor of features of a portable YMMV..

So far I'm very impressed with this little powerhouse of a vape. My Solo(although a great vape) will most likely not get used much.. It's bulkier, less stealthy, breakable expensive glass stems and vapor quality and speed of extraction are not as good as the Pax 2..

I'm loving the Pax 2 so far. Great job Pax people!!

Just tried it. Pretty sweet for a portable. I wouldn't replace a good 120V plug-in vape like a Volcano or SSV, but for portable stealth, it's just what I like.

I'm still playing around with the Pax 2 before I feel comfortable posting my detailed thoughts but so far I'm a little disappointed. The device produces a very strong and noticeable weed smell as it is heating up, even if you don't take a pull, much more so than the original Pax. Relatively poor vapor production, flavor went stale very quickly, BUT I was quite medicated when all was said and done. I just dove into using it as I did my original Pax and so no particular measures were taken with regards to grind size or packing, which can certainly affect the experience. Lots to test across the different heating levels, I am excited to start in earnest tonight

I'd also like more insight/info on the lip-sensing behavior and what really happens with the oven...given that the LEDs remain green for a while after a hit I assume this represents oven temperature is still around the desired set level, there's no active cooling after all. When I tried to pull at a comfortable, yet strong, rate I didn't get the impression that the oven was compensating for the cooling from the pull.

All that said, these are just preliminary impressions, hopefully by the end of the week I can just chalk this up to noobish experience with a new device

I was using my pax2 last night on 2 petals, and getting mad vapor, was quite impressed to get such big clouds on a lower setting, and got even more after stiring it and tamping it back down. I am using the SCS grinder with med grind, and just packing my load down pretty solid.

I was getting decent results from hand broken buds, more on the flavor side than cloudy, got thicker vapor after a mid sesh stir which broke up any chunky pieces.

Flower quality will always play a big role in vapor production too, as always what you put in determines what you get out.

zor said:

I'm still playing around with the Pax 2 before I feel comfortable posting my detailed thoughts but so far I'm a little disappointed. The device produces a very strong and noticeable weed smell as it is heating up, even if you don't take a pull, much more so than the original Pax. Relatively poor vapor production, flavor went stale very quickly, BUT I was quite medicated when all was said and done. I just dove into using it as I did my original Pax and so no particular measures were taken with regards to grind size or packing, which can certainly affect the experience. Lots to test across the different heating levels, I am excited to start in earnest tonight

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Try a finer grind. I got some odor, and weak vapor even at high temps, when I used a medium grind. Using a fine grind yielded me big big vapor even on one or two petals.

Steve S. said:

The PAX 2 has changed everything. ALL my criticisms have been addressed. It does not get hot with the flat mouthpiece. The taste is as good as or better than the Solo and Ascent. It does not continually roast the herb between inhalations. The experience is not harsh but mild in comparison to the original PAX. The 2 is even more compact AND has a longer battery life. And the icing on the cake is the ease of cleaning.

I think they hit a home run with the 2 and my search for the best vape out there has ended. Not sure how the Air will match up.

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I'd have to agree man, I remember thinking after the Pax came out what would be really awesome would be a unit slightly smaller than the Pax, with a metallic finish. No moving mouthpiece or BS to deal with. Pax seems to have addressed all of the problems and listened to the community and criticisms. I am impressed and continuing to evaluate the unit but I really think they hit a home run here.

What really shines is how smooth the vapor is compared to the original unit. I can get massive rips and don't get that harsh itching sensation in my throat which would make me cough with the original. The draw is easier/smooth and I seem to get the same hit with a 2-3 second draw compared to a 4-5 second draw with the original. Vapor on demand and it auto-cools to save herbage? win/win.

mitchgo61 said:

Try a finer grind. I got some odor, and weak vapor even at high temps, when I used a medium grind. Using a fine grind yielded me big big vapor even on one or two petals.

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Yeah, I erred on the side of a thicker grind since I didn't want bits slipping through the gaps of the screen. I also did get into a few coughing fits from the throat tickle, and the effects were great, and I'm slowing beginning to realize that I really don't care about clouds at all if the effects are tangible

zor said:

I'd also like more insight/info on the lip-sensing behavior and what really happens with the oven...given that the LEDs remain green for a while after a hit I assume this represents oven temperature is still around the desired set level, there's no active cooling after all. When I tried to pull at a comfortable, yet strong, rate I didn't get the impression that the oven was compensating for the cooling from the pull.

All that said, these are just preliminary impressions, hopefully by the end of the week I can just chalk this up to noobish experience with a new device

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I do notice a difference in LED from when you are hitting it and from when you are not hitting it. Colors tend to flow between green teal yellow when not hitting and when there is skin contact with the sensor there is a color swirl with more of a solid green. At least that's what I see

Had a question about my Pax 2. I've noticed my unit is hard to draw on and I get wispy clouds, I've owned an OG Pax for over a year so I've got my grinding/packing technique pretty down (at least I think). It's still heating up, there's no doubt about that, as the body temp of the Pax 2 def gets toasty during a session. I popped my oven screen out last night to take a look and I noticed the vapor path protrudes out into the oven ever so slightly, as opposed to my Pax where there is actually an indentation/dip around where the vapor path meets the oven. I was wondering what it looks like under the screen for other people, if this could be causing the vapor path to be too close to the screen and is hampering air flow. I've also noticed my screen has 4 indentations/dips in the corners that I've read not everybody has. Posted a picture of the inside of my oven sans screen to give you guys an idea of what I'm talking about. I love my Pax, so this is kinda a bummer right now, I hope it's just new unit/user error somehow. Here's a link to the image, just made the account so now sure how to imbed



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jambandphan03 said:

I was using my pax2 last night on 2 petals, and getting mad vapor, was quite impressed to get such big clouds on a lower setting, and got even more after stiring it and tamping it back down. I am using the SCS grinder with med grind, and just packing my load down pretty solid.

I was getting decent results from hand broken buds, more on the flavor side than cloudy, got thicker vapor after a mid sesh stir which broke up any chunky pieces.

Flower quality will always play a big role in vapor production too, as always what you put in determines what you get out.

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wow.. impressive review jambandphan03!
oh ya edit: i drove to a pax authorized dealer but even THEY didnt have pax2 in yet and so even though you had to wait a day or two to get urs, you're still one of the very firsts

MisterUtopia said:

Had a question about my Pax 2. I've noticed my unit is hard to draw on and I get wispy clouds, I've owned an OG Pax for over a year so I've got my grinding/packing technique pretty down (at least I think). It's still heating up, there's no doubt about that, as the body temp of the Pax 2 def gets toasty during a session. I popped my oven screen out last night to take a look and I noticed the vapor path protrudes out into the oven ever so slightly, as opposed to my Pax where there is actually an indentation/dip around where the vapor path meets the oven. I was wondering what it looks like under the screen for other people, if this could be causing the vapor path to be too close to the screen and is hampering air flow. I've also noticed my screen has 4 indentations/dips in the corners that I've read not everybody has. Posted a picture of the inside of my oven sans screen to give you guys an idea of what I'm talking about. I love my Pax, so this is kinda a bummer right now, I hope it's just new unit/user error somehow. Here's a link to the image, just made the account so now sure how to imbed http://imgur.com/hROYMUS

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I noticed the same thing. So I took some twisted 24g kanthal and made a little loop and placed it on the bottom of the oven. Then placed my screen back in the oven on top of it to make sure there was nothing blocking the airflow. Helped quite a bit.

I also ordered the sandwich pack from newvape. I'm sure that will solve the airflow problem.

Two days in and lots of testing. I concur with most here who believe the Pax 2 is a massive improvement from its predecessor. My goodness, this Pax packs a punch.

So very tasty at two petals. Don't think I'll go higher than that. Don't need to.

Eleaf420 said:

I also ordered the sandwich pack from newvape. I'm sure that will solve the airflow problem.

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Is the sandwich pack supposed to go on the bottom of the oven before you fill it, or in place of a screen on top?

The oven "screen" is larger than the oven, so make sure when you lean the screen in the oven, that you're leaning over the hole, leaving space above the hole.

Then don't over-pack to the point where the screen is pushed down over the hole.

MisterUtopia said:

Had a question about my Pax 2. I've noticed my unit is hard to draw on and I get wispy clouds, I've owned an OG Pax for over a year so I've got my grinding/packing technique pretty down (at least I think). It's still heating up, there's no doubt about that, as the body temp of the Pax 2 def gets toasty during a session. I popped my oven screen out last night to take a look and I noticed the vapor path protrudes out into the oven ever so slightly, as opposed to my Pax where there is actually an indentation/dip around where the vapor path meets the oven. I was wondering what it looks like under the screen for other people, if this could be causing the vapor path to be too close to the screen and is hampering air flow. I've also noticed my screen has 4 indentations/dips in the corners that I've read not everybody has. Posted a picture of the inside of my oven sans screen to give you guys an idea of what I'm talking about. I love my Pax, so this is kinda a bummer right now, I hope it's just new unit/user error somehow. Here's a link to the image, just made the account so now sure how to imbed

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Mine is raised also so I don't think that's your problem.

If you pull too hard, you'll get wispy vapour. You've already owned a Pax so you probably know how hard to pull, but I'll mention it anyway.