Discontinued Pax 2
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jambandphan03
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give it a press on one side and it should start to flip up and out,it's only held in place by magents.
Oh dear
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Well if it's anything like the OG Pax then you just push down on either end of the lid to kind of tilt it up & then you can grab it.Give it a go, I'm sure you'll suss it out
EDIT - Ahh there ya go - confirmation from a lady in the know. Good stuff @jambandphan03
mitchgo61
I go where the thrills are
Not working. No matter where I press it doesn't move.
Edit. ...think I got it...I'm slow today...thanks!
jambandphan03
in flavor country
So I decided to mess with some glass today, put the flared mouthpiece on the Pax2, stuck a short length of silicone tubing over the end and got a fairly decent connection, but it came apart very easily. I think there was a little air getting in with the vapor too, but it worked well enough for this vid... I think I got the thickest vapor on setting 4 with party mode activated. I started on 3...
RaffOutLoud
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Don't own it yet but I've been reading so much about it and watching so many videos that I can actually answer that!
It is reversible. There are two vapor channels on the underside of the flat mp, only one will be used at a time. Airflow should be the same on either side, but everything I've seen says there is more draw resistance with the flat mp.
adam_baumm
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Anyone know the price in CAD
I've had my Pax 2 since Saturday afternoon and we've run a few oven loads through it. I did a direct comparison that I'd like to eventually add to this thread, and one major concern of mine is the new MP...
I found the opposite. I find with my Pax 2, with either a fine or medium grind, there is absolutely no resistance. I can literally sip, without pulling, with the flat mp. Pulling hard, like I have to with my Pax 1 tightly packed, seems to reduce the vapor a bit. But if I sip for 5-10 seconds, huge clouds.
I'm keeping note of this and I also tried the raised MP. With the raised MP, I noticed no real difference except that it gets hotter. Everyone who has tried both on my Pax 2 prefers the flat MP over the raised one.
Also, it is of note that my Pax 2 is the non-Simon model (no Simon says mode and when I shake it vertically in any mode, it plays Funky Town)
I found the opposite. I find with my Pax 2, with either a fine or medium grind, there is absolutely no resistance. I can literally sip, without pulling, with the flat mp. Pulling hard, like I have to with my Pax 1 tightly packed, seems to reduce the vapor a bit. But if I sip for 5-10 seconds, huge clouds.
I'm keeping note of this and I also tried the raised MP. With the raised MP, I noticed no real difference except that it gets hotter. Everyone who has tried both on my Pax 2 prefers the flat MP over the raised one.
Also, it is of note that my Pax 2 is the non-Simon model (no Simon says mode and when I shake it vertically in any mode, it plays Funky Town)
jambandphan03
in flavor country
I'm using my raised mouthpiece today, and finding that if I just lightly rest my lips on the outer edge of the aluminum body rather than trying to put them onto the raised mp and let just a tiny bit of air come in from the corners of my mouth while taking a draw, I still get a nice thick vapor, but it cools the mp just enough to be comfortable. The more direct contact I have with the raised mp the more uncomfortable it is. Maybe they can re-design this mouthpiece to not have a piece of metal under it, maybe a siicone plug/button would work better for eliminating the extra heat it adds.
I haven't found simon or funky town yet
I haven't found simon or funky town yet
BuzzDanklin
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@whatavape The screen in the oven heavily affects draw resistance. I had my positioned really tight/flat at one point, and it increase my draw resistance by around double. I remove it, and set it back in at more of an angle and it immediately solved it for me. Maybe it will help you too
buddhaholic420
Grand master-vaper
It's here as promised by Ojan at Pax! placed it to charge and will report back my quick review.
berman1125
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You can not hit the pax from either side with the flat MP. There are two vapor channels but they are on the same side of the flat MP. So if you suck on the other side of the mouthpiece, u will get nothing
When I do this I slide the silicone all the way down over the aluminum shell, which makes it airtight and won't come off. I also noticed that you didn't reset the LST between hits and that will affect your vapour production. Turning on party mode only delays the LST cool-down, it doesn't prevent it from happening.
Your standard for no resistance differs from mine. I found some draw restriction even when I pilled on the Pax 2 without any mouthpiece, which is what I expected given the way air enters it. From my experiments, I concluded that the gap around the oven lid is still the most restrictive part of the airflow. This means that I think any difference at the MP is imaginary.
Your description makes me wonder whether your Pax 2 thinks you have already beaten Simon. Try this: go into temperature settings mode, then press the button five times quickly. If I'm right it will flash the four lights in red, green, blue, and yellow. That will also turn off Funky Town, but I don't know if it resets Simon. I think it should.
I believe the stud is metal because it has to conduct current through the MP to activate the capacitance sensor.
You get Simon by going through each of the previous four modes. Each mode is reached from the previous by three spins, but if you don't get the spins right you'll get a battery status instead. You'll recognize Simon because all four petals flash white three times, then you will get a sequence to start the game. On mine, it's always the same. I don't play Simon so I don't know how random the sequences are. From what I've been told, you get Funky Town by winning a 20 sequence Simon game.
It's true you must hit the side of the flat MP with the slit, but you don't have to worry about which way you put it on the Pax 2. That's what RaffOutLoud was referring to.
jambandphan03
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mine seems to only have 3 sequences when I rotate it 3 times, I get the same 3 over and over. flashy colors, all green flash or all red flash, color paint whith motion sensitivity. I will keep trying, but so far, I'm just getting the same results no matter which way I spin it or how careful I am.
buddhaholic420
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On my first impression I'm pretty blown away by the improvements. I really like the way it feels in my hands. It has very nice vapor quality with no burnt taste I'm accustomed to with the original. More to come......
showersmoker
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Does anybody at PAX labs have an ETA on when pax 2 accessories, like replacement screens are going to be available?
BuzzDanklin
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@showersmoker I came across this bottom screen recently https://www.newvape.com/2732-bottom-screen/
Hey, that's how I charge mine! You should be good to go, no effect on warranty.
Vapeworld has been great through all of this...if there's any fault, it's on us for not over-communicating our plan. They run a tight ship over there!
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showersmoker
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Thanks, just ordered the screen and pusher. I'll report back on if I notice any improvements. I still would like to order some more of the thin ones that PAX makes though.
@whatavape The screen in the oven heavily affects draw resistance. I had my positioned really tight/flat at one point, and it increase my draw resistance by around double. I remove it, and set it back in at more of an angle and it immediately solved it for me. Maybe it will help you too
Yes, in fact, I have my screen positioned at a slight angle (slightly raised on the side w/ draw tube), but this is what I have come to accept as standard installation, as that's how my screen in my Pax 1 fit, and that's how I've gotten this one to fit. I can see how if it was perfectly flat, there would be much more resistance. But I can figure out no way to get it to lie this way, it just naturally rests slightly raised on one side.
I think there's a definite difference between the draw on P1 and P2, but for me I'm packing my P2 oven lighter (0.2-0.3g) vs always 0.5-0.6g in my P1. Interestingly enough, I get about the same number of hits this way.
Anyways, in reference to Simon Mode, I was thinking the same thing, but wasn't aware of the ability to reset. While rolling/rotating, here is what I get:
First 3 rotations takes me to party mode 1. This is an interesting animation of colors where no 2 lights are the same, each seems to be randomly changing color on its own.
Next set of 3 rotations takes me to party mode 2. The lights change to red or green swipes (red if heating, green if ready) that change based on how the P2 is oriented.
3rd set of 3 rotations takes me to party mode 3. This mode is light painting mode. When in this mode, there is supposed to be a 5th oven temp that allows me to turn off the oven (all 4 LEDs blue). This is not available on my P2. It goes to high (4/4), then back to yellow (1/4).
If I rotate 3 more times, I return to the first party mode. At any time, in any of these modes, including while within the temp setting in any of these modes, if I shake my P2 up and down vertically once or twice, it will play Funky Town. It also plays while in standard heating mode and accompanying temp change mode. Any more than 2 shakes vertically and it does not play. As you asked, I tried about 100 or so times (ok.. maybe 15 or 20), and 5 quick presses does not activate or change my P2 in any way. Funky town still plays when I shake. Like I mentioned, there is not a 5th temp setting available to me to turn off the oven (something you should have!).
@jambandphan03's explanation is on par with what I have:
I am also unable to get into Simon mode.
pakalolo said:
If you've been around on other forums for the Pax 2, even just browsing, there are (esp on a certain site) many people mentioning they have some "alternative" Pax 2.
My P2 (charcoal) is definitely this version. Now, whether it's known to be different by PAX Labs is beyond me (and maybe @scott_dunlap or @Ojan_at_PAX can shed some light here), but my P2 has something different. It could be intentional, or there's my theory...
As a software engineer, I'm really inclined to think there may have been a batch of Pax 2's that received the wrong software during manufacturing. Whether it's a single chip that's bad, or a corrupted segment of code, I think this is the issue. If I'm to delve into it more, my programming experience tells me that it's a software issue, specifically in the section of code that reads data from the gyro (whatever sensor they've used for that). There are going to be lots of "for" loops within the code that check for gyro changes. I'm assuming that somewhere after 12 rolls/rotations/spins, the for loops break. My guess is that there was a chunk of code not written into the P2's memory locations properly, or it was cut off at some point. This would explain it's roll counter resetting after 9 rolls and returning me to the 1st party mode. If I have some time this week I will find a way to post a video of me showing my P2's modes.
If this is a software issue, and I'm almost certain that it is, there are probably a few hundred (or thousand) P2's that have this anomaly. So far, I have seen no issues with performance, so I'm inclined to think it's an isolated issue within the code that accesses the gyro. Maybe @scott_dunlap could bug his engineers to figure out if they're aware of this bug (if it is a bug...). I'm also curious if others who have this "version" of the P2 also have charcoal, or if it affects all colors. I noticed all reviewers/ contest winners received the silver one, and none have reported non-Simon.
I'm willing to talk more about what I think it might be if anyone is interested, PM me.
I beat Simon on my P1, and it was after 20 correct in a row, so that sounds right....but since I've got no Simon I'll probably never know!
Anways, tl;dr
Draw is easier on P2 than P1 for me but it may be that I'm packing less in my oven.
My P2 is definitely different, and my experience tells me its a software issue, specifically corrupted data or truncated data. I have only 3 party modes and no simon. My experience coincides with @jambandphan03's experience as well. Curious to know if you've got charcoal too, or another color.
Hi guys,
As I was saying in my previous post... Charcoal is badass, I made an unboxing and comparison video you can check out here:
I go into a bit more detail on my blog post found at my site Green Diet
As I was saying in my previous post... Charcoal is badass, I made an unboxing and comparison video you can check out here:
I go into a bit more detail on my blog post found at my site Green Diet
RaffOutLoud
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Do you know if there is a way of telling which is which?
I thought the original question was asking if you can place the mp in the unit turned 180-degrees on it's x-plane. Which I know you can.
I realize you can't draw through the part that doesn't have a hole
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