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Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

torggzorz

All your Vape are belong to us
been out of oil for a few days and revisiting dry herb in the herc since i had a small amount left and i must say the sr71 handles it very well tho i think im combusting

The SR-71 heats up so quickly that it will combust unless you slowly work the temperature up with very fine button control. I have vaped a full chamber of herb without turning it black in the 71 before but it took many previous combustion failures to learn the technique. I think it helps if the herb is a little moist, my stuff was too dry so made good results hard.
 

Big Baby Jesus

The momentum is finally on our side. Carpe diem!
Should I just use a fuse like the one that comes w/ the 8 or a vapesafe2, like its a mech mod?
Like this one (which looks the same as the 8 one)

Well, I don't have any experience with that product so it's hard for me to say if that's a good thing to add or not. It does say that the fuse will fail itself eventually, and I don't know if it gives a good indication of that. If the fuse had blown, and you had a short in your Hercules assembly, you'd blow the top on the Persei. I'd just test the Hercules before using it because I'm cheap, but if those fuses clearly let you know whether they're good or blown you might like them. I really can't say.
 
Big Baby Jesus,
Well, I don't have any experience with that product so it's hard for me to say if that's a good thing to add or not. It does say that the fuse will fail itself eventually, and I don't know if it gives a good indication of that. If the fuse had blown, and you had a short in your Hercules assembly, you'd blow the top on the Persei. I'd just test the Hercules before using it because I'm cheap, but if those fuses clearly let you know whether they're good or blown you might like them. I really can't say.
Fair enough. Hopefully Gary will have something to add, since it's about the same as the 8 fuse (I'd also happily buy a w9 fuse, but they aren't available separately on the site)
 
ragnorokk,
The SR-71 heats up so quickly that it will combust unless you slowly work the temperature up with very fine button control. I have vaped a full chamber of herb without turning it black in the 71 before but it took many previous combustion failures to learn the technique. I think it helps if the herb is a little moist, my stuff was too dry so made good results hard.
Can I just rehydrate a little in preparation, and get decent results?
 
ragnorokk,

SlinginPaint

As Above ∞ So Below
Its been a while since I pulled out the Persei (due to moving away from concentrates) but this past week I got my mini-KISS carts in... I really have been enjoying the ridiculous flavor off these babies. Damn so good!! I was wondering why they dont screw all the way down though. It looks wonky and nu-finished. Definitely NOT something I have come to associate with W9Tech gear. Could I have got a bad batch of mini's, or is it my Persei top @THC SCIENTIFIC ?
 
SlinginPaint,

SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
Yeah, it's a concern, there's no short circuit protection in V1 tops. Make sure you test your Hercules' resistance before each an every use and you'll have no problems.

Should I just use a fuse like the one that comes w/ the 8 or a vapesafe2, like its a mech mod?
Like this one (which looks the same as the 8 one)
I don't think there's enough room in the tube of the Persei to accomodate 2x 18350's with a fuse without putting too much pressure on the bottom pin of the Persei Top. The 8 and the V4 Persei have a much more durable bottom pin and can handle the extra preload on the spring; V1-V3 Persei tops have a pin that can get pushed inside if too much force is exerted on it.

I have the same suggestion as prior posters: Test the Hercules with a meter or our Ohm and voltage Tester before firing it. And make sure it's not over tightened before firing.

I was wondering why they dont screw all the way down though. It looks wonky and nu-finished. Definitely NOT something I have come to associate with W9Tech gear. Could I have got a bad batch of mini's, or is it my Persei top @THC SCIENTIFIC ?
What cartridges have you tried on your Persei? The KISS Mini should be the same as a Hercules, KISS cartridge or KISS Globe- the center post will make contact before the cart tightens flush. Don't keep tightening, finger tight is all you need to go!

Our newer vaporizers including the VX and touch button Persei tops have floating center pins so that any cart can be tightened flush.
 
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lonelyhero

the lost soul
Company Rep
im willing to bet around the middle of the month when preorders are supposed to go up
 
lonelyhero,

StickyShisha2

Well-Known Member
there lies the issue, the hercules requires AW IMR batteries.
i have given quite a few persei/herc setups to friends, but always needed to also buy AW batteries. the stock batteries, in some cases, wouldn't even heat an OE cart. (total DOA)

are kits available with powerful enough batteries for the Herc?
or am i going to be needing to dispose of more DOA stock batteries from the 2 kits i'm about to order?

edit to add: i know this may sound harsh, but i have been asking this same question since my first Herc that i pre-ordered, and keep being told that kits with better batteries are in the works.
 
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StickyShisha2,

THC SCIENTIFIC

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before
Manufacturer
@StickyShisha kits with better batteries are in the works, but for the Persei and 8 they are going totally battery less and charger less. people will need to source their own or purchase them online.

We simply cant rely on the quality of chinese batteries as they claim one thing and often just disappoint.


@420time The Kiss Alpha Centauri will have a 1701 heater specifically designed for it, plus other surprises left to show off.
 

eckstrakt

Member
@StickyShisha kits with better batteries are in the works, but for the Persei and 8 they are going totally battery less and charger less. people will need to source their own or purchase them online.

We simply cant rely on the quality of chinese batteries as they claim one thing and often just disappoint.


@420time The Kiss Alpha Centauri will have a 1701 heater specifically designed for it, plus other surprises left to show off.

there lies the issue, the hercules requires AW IMR batteries.


Ok...so I will have to source my own batteries. That should be easy enough. I am a little disappointed that this is a known issue and has not been remedied.

Thanks for the response. Still no reply from the site.
 
eckstrakt,

THC SCIENTIFIC

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before
Manufacturer
Ok...so I will have to source my own batteries. That should be easy enough. I am a little disappointed that this is a known issue and has not been remedied.

Thanks for the response. Still no reply from the site.

The hercules states it needs aw batteries, not sure how more it can be rectified as the generic IMR batteries are not strong enough, including all kits with AW was a thought but doing so increases the price even further.
 

StickyShisha2

Well-Known Member
Ok...so I will have to source my own batteries. That should be easy enough. I am a little disappointed that this is a known issue and has not been remedied.

Thanks for the response. Still no reply from the site.

w9tech (uptech) sells AW batteries. they work great. price is close enough to other battery sources.
i was only complaining about the shitty stock batteries. I'm glad to hear that new kits will be without batteries.
 
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elmoe420

Well-Known Member
w9tech sells AW batteries. they work great. price is close enough to other battery sources.
i was only complaining about the shitty stock batteries. I'm glad to hear that new kits will be without batteries.

I'll just +1 this.

Both the stock batteries and stock charger are known to be of low quality. It is confusing for a first time buyer because they come bundled with the Persei. Much better just to remove them from the bundle. Basically sell the Persei just like you do the 8. I would suggest trying to stock a legit charger on the UP Tech site as well so people don't have to order from multiple sites to get up and running.
 
I'll just +1 this.

Both the stock batteries and stock charger are known to be of low quality. It is confusing for a first time buyer because they come bundled with the Persei. Much better just to remove them from the bundle. Basically sell the Persei just like you do the 8. I would suggest trying to stock a legit charger on the UP Tech site as well so people don't have to order from multiple sites to get up and running.
Word. I'd have ordered a charger and a ton more accessories/bits off the site yesterday, but there's no separate charger available at all right now (thought I saw one previously, couldn't find a damn thing last night), had to spend ages researching something that wasn't crap and used Amazon in the end.

Really strange that something considered the Cadillac of vaporizers comes with such lackluster gear, sort of a weird juxtaposition.

@THC SCIENTIFIC Will the Alpha Centauri fit a nibbler G or XL?
 
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eckstrakt

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How did you contact us? Did you call the number on our website, or click the Contact Us button to open a ticket?

no worries...i tried to contact through my order confirmation email....not the best way

will using an AW IMR 18350 3.7v 700maH battery work?

it will just not last as long as the 800maH, correct?

The hercules states it needs aw batteries, not sure how more it can be rectified as the generic IMR batteries are not strong enough, including all kits with AW was a thought but doing so increases the price even further.

lost in translation....i guess i didn't read closely enough....

i guess i assumed it would have come with them since it appears most people order these two pieces together

anyway, is there a brand that is preferred? Interstate battery has them but they are 700maH instead of 800....

also....i found some pvtso 18350 3.7v 800maH......can these be used in place of AWIMR?

How did you contact us? Did you call the number on our website, or click the Contact Us button to open a ticket?

thanks samurai!! I found the contact link and submitted a ticket. i truly appreciate all of the help and info.

Mod note: Four posts merged.
 
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eckstrakt,

Joel W.

Deplorable Basement Dweller
Accessory Maker
I recieved The Core and Persei hammer Top today. Mine looks and works great! It is nice to be able to throw the full 8.4v at any of them for a good session. The hammer top does a pretty nice job dabbing on my nail. The car charger will be a huge plus for long trips. Good stuff. Thank you guys.
 

Melting Pot

Sick & Twisted
I have a W-9 meter starting to crap out on me. I have to mess with power switch.

What kinda warranty if any do they have?

Appreciate any input.
 
Melting Pot,
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