EveryDayAmnesiac
Well-Known Member
This has to be the most pathetic thread on all of the interwebs.
I feel like lining the lot of you up, and kicking the holy shit out of you all.
Why Do Computers Turn Some People Into "Tough Guys"?
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Havelock Vetenari
Patrician
^^
Come on then...i'll have ye!
I do visit a few other social media sites and fora, but also have a special love for this place and the well mannered way folks generally interact with each other here.
All the more so because that sadly does not seem to be the case everywhere else.
I always see FC as more of a social club of old, where civility was always paramount, albeit this one of course being open to persons of every colour, creed, sexe etc.!
Come on then...i'll have ye!
I do visit a few other social media sites and fora, but also have a special love for this place and the well mannered way folks generally interact with each other here.
All the more so because that sadly does not seem to be the case everywhere else.
I always see FC as more of a social club of old, where civility was always paramount, albeit this one of course being open to persons of every colour, creed, sexe etc.!
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Just don't call my abuelita biznatch or it might go something like this . . .Either way it would make one hell of a video!!!
Best use of a cane I have ever seen.
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EveryDayAmnesiac
Well-Known Member
Just don't call me Biznatch or it might go something like this . . .
Better be careful he doesn't come back at you with this:
Melting Pot
Sick & Twisted
As long as I'm first in line there won't be any trouble!! LolThis has to be the most pathetic thread on all of the interwebs.
I feel like lining the lot of you up, and kicking the holy shit out of you all.
dorkus_molorkus
Well-Known Member
Just don't call my abuelita biznatch or it might go something like this . . .
I'll see both of yours and raise you one of these..........
and then some of this..............
Enchantre
Oil Painter
I could have wrote this, EXCEPT I'm talkative IRL, too. I am an explainer. And I hid a lot in school...I have always been a mouse. I had a bit of a DGAF armor to get through school because I couldn't make myself invisible, but if you look up skittish in the dictionary, there's probably a picture of me hiding behind something.
When I first got online, I was enthralled with the idea that I would finally fit in somewhere because now there was literally a whole world of people out there and all I had to do was find my "tribe." Oh, I was so young. Turns out people still suck, so I figured if you can't beat em, find someone to be your bulldog and let them beat em for you. I'm embarrassed to say it felt good to be accepted for "letting off steam" at people who appeared to be bigger losers than myself.
It didn't take long to realize it wasn't really doing anything for me, so I've pretty much stuck with Wil Wheaton's law - don't be a dick. So, despite some random lashing out, I try to be who I am as much as possible online. The only difference between me in real life and online is that I say a lot more online. I'm still incredibly shy and skittish in person - my RL "friends" probably haven't heard me say as much in the past 10 years as I've said in this single post, lol. I've even known people IRL who can't remember my real name because they only "know" me by what I post online. And I'm cool with that, I don't need people to validate me anymore so the internet is just for amusing myself instead of justifying my existence
So, I do post my coffees and breakfasts. I have followers, they have needs. What can I say?
I feel TERRIBLE that we've not buzzed up and visited yet... Let's hope for great weather on weekends!
This is the most AMAZING quote ever!! I LOVE YOU!! Shit! you are fucking AMAZING with words!!
@dorkus_molorkus you have such a good heart. and you are so bat-shit crazy!
your therapist is a lucky gal...
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
@dorkus_molorkus - Thanks for my 20,000th "Like" today. Yours was the one Don't get me wrong, if we ever meet I will still introduce you to my cane, I will just lube it up first . . .
Don't get me wrong, if we ever meet I will still introduce you to my cane, I will just lube it up first . . .
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Eschient
Giga-Dweebess
This is the most AMAZING quote ever!! I LOVE YOU!! Shit! you are fucking AMAZING with words!!
Awww, I'm all blushing, thank you @Enchantre
The funny thing is if I tried to say that with my big girl voice, it would come out something along the lines of "Facebook is like college and, like, well, I didn't like college. Cuz people were all drunk and loud and mean. Right? Um, let me go in the kitchen and cook something for a while. I'm not here. You're all high, this conversation only happened in your head."
Tough guy in real life too
So basically, you shouldn't post?
I'm not going to disagree with you for once.
horst
horsed
Lots of answers I totally can relate to, too. I am also more the shy guy then a tough one when it comes to reveal my own personality in public. Would like to share my point of view on this aspect.
Love that pic of the nintendo freak as an entry, great choice. I don't see a tough guy here, I see someone who tries to connect to others who love the same thing as much as he does. Guess he made this foto for a kind of community like ours and wanted to contribute plus reveal something about himself to show how much he relates to this community. It is so much easier and more rewarding to get in touch with others through a shared hobby then to try it out on random others in public.
So what choices and chances does he have to connect to others with this revalation in public instead of the internet? I claim it is close to 0% to benefit from this behaviour in public but chances are 100% that a lot of laughter about himself is sure to be earned. Sure, with this picture a lot of people also make fun of him, maybe he even found this pic abused as a meme and regrets his choice having it uploaded now. It is out of some peoples imagination that a picture posted in a more or less private space on the web can make it around the world. But even if he knew I bet he doesn't care that much, simply because he didn't have to hear the laughter about his disguise/revelation.
To me it is just a matter of intelligence where I try to reveal my inner self. To some point we all act some kind of selfish when it comes to showing who we are, and thats good because it protects us from being hurt I guess.
It is the same with myself i find, espacially here at fuckcombustion. I live in a prohibited region when it comes to our herbs and my soul is distorted because of the fact that I am forced to hide my true personality because of its illegal condition. Sure I have a circle of trusted persons around myself where I can truly be myself and talk about what moves me in terms of the herb, but even in this circle I have to hold myself back when it comes to vaporization. I am still the only vaper in our toker circle and therefore some kind of freak. I tend to keep my mouth shut about the vape stuff that moves me because when I start to talk about it I simply feel that I annoy my folks with this stuff because they simply don't get it. So I can totally relate to the nintendo guy, I got no benefit from telling my findings in vape stuff my pals. I don't gain anything if I do but instead give surface for jokes about myself. Result = keep my mouth shut and feeling more comfortable in the role of the shy guy then in the role of the vape freak.
Can even more relate to Mr Nintendo because I am also a bit of that freak. At the age of 34 it is not that comfortable to be videogame lover. I've possesed every console and handheld of the last 2 decades that made it to europe and am still excited as a kid even if an slightly new revision of the same console releases. Sure I stand up for it and don't hide that obsession, it's legal and i don't mind if others see me as a freak, but how does this come out in my social life? I tell you, I am seen as the shy guy who is friendly and all but more on the introverted side. Not because I don't have to say anything but because of nobody around cares what I have to say. So at family events or other social happenings outside of my inner circle of friends I have exactly 3 choices:
1. Be myself, try to share the joy i feel in the upcoming release of the PS4 or getting mad about the new clear Display and better 3D of the new 3DS revision, debating if someone is more the type for the XL-Version of it or not. Turns out that nobody wants to to hear that stuff because they can't relate and leave the impression of a freak and getting cold shoulders on the next approach of conversation or, when there's alcohol in the game, getting a lot of jokes at my costs. Remember, other hobby is the herb and disqualified because of illegality. Great memories of lowered self esteem and slightly suicidal thoughts come to mind, didn't worked for me.
2. Ignore myself and engage in terms others bring up. Parenthood or refining their homes with their hands is hip at my age I found out. Because I care about what moves my family members and friends I hear a lot of their stuff and have a solid base of knowledge just because of the stories of others. Works for a while and is something has to be enough in a lot of situations for me. I get constant invites and people are happy to unload their stuff in front of me cause I always contribute and appriciate. Didn't work for me because I'm getting sick of hearing all this stuff that does not get me anywhere while rarely anybody is interested in hearing whats moving me.
3. Seeing it as a tradeoff and trying to balance it out in terms of revealing stuff about myself and wanting to hear stuff about the others. Turns out that this behaviour leaves the impression that I am the shy and introverted guy with that little freaky attitude nobody really wants to know more about. Living it this way and feeling good after getting comfortable with accepting to be seen this way. For the need of communicating about what really moves me i got you folks here at fuckcombustion and similar a institution for my videogame fantasies.
Sorry for this wall of text, I tend to over analyse things I guess...
TL;DR
Guess we are not becoming others in front of our computers, but dropping our masks and reveal ourselfs behind our computers. Not because of the fear of physical pain in the wild if we reveal there, but because of seeing chance of being understanded if we reveal here. If I expose myself I give something, and everyone feels better if it's appreciated what's being given instead of making fun out of it.
greetings,
horst
Love that pic of the nintendo freak as an entry, great choice. I don't see a tough guy here, I see someone who tries to connect to others who love the same thing as much as he does. Guess he made this foto for a kind of community like ours and wanted to contribute plus reveal something about himself to show how much he relates to this community. It is so much easier and more rewarding to get in touch with others through a shared hobby then to try it out on random others in public.
So what choices and chances does he have to connect to others with this revalation in public instead of the internet? I claim it is close to 0% to benefit from this behaviour in public but chances are 100% that a lot of laughter about himself is sure to be earned. Sure, with this picture a lot of people also make fun of him, maybe he even found this pic abused as a meme and regrets his choice having it uploaded now. It is out of some peoples imagination that a picture posted in a more or less private space on the web can make it around the world. But even if he knew I bet he doesn't care that much, simply because he didn't have to hear the laughter about his disguise/revelation.
To me it is just a matter of intelligence where I try to reveal my inner self. To some point we all act some kind of selfish when it comes to showing who we are, and thats good because it protects us from being hurt I guess.
It is the same with myself i find, espacially here at fuckcombustion. I live in a prohibited region when it comes to our herbs and my soul is distorted because of the fact that I am forced to hide my true personality because of its illegal condition. Sure I have a circle of trusted persons around myself where I can truly be myself and talk about what moves me in terms of the herb, but even in this circle I have to hold myself back when it comes to vaporization. I am still the only vaper in our toker circle and therefore some kind of freak. I tend to keep my mouth shut about the vape stuff that moves me because when I start to talk about it I simply feel that I annoy my folks with this stuff because they simply don't get it. So I can totally relate to the nintendo guy, I got no benefit from telling my findings in vape stuff my pals. I don't gain anything if I do but instead give surface for jokes about myself. Result = keep my mouth shut and feeling more comfortable in the role of the shy guy then in the role of the vape freak.
Can even more relate to Mr Nintendo because I am also a bit of that freak. At the age of 34 it is not that comfortable to be videogame lover. I've possesed every console and handheld of the last 2 decades that made it to europe and am still excited as a kid even if an slightly new revision of the same console releases. Sure I stand up for it and don't hide that obsession, it's legal and i don't mind if others see me as a freak, but how does this come out in my social life? I tell you, I am seen as the shy guy who is friendly and all but more on the introverted side. Not because I don't have to say anything but because of nobody around cares what I have to say. So at family events or other social happenings outside of my inner circle of friends I have exactly 3 choices:
1. Be myself, try to share the joy i feel in the upcoming release of the PS4 or getting mad about the new clear Display and better 3D of the new 3DS revision, debating if someone is more the type for the XL-Version of it or not. Turns out that nobody wants to to hear that stuff because they can't relate and leave the impression of a freak and getting cold shoulders on the next approach of conversation or, when there's alcohol in the game, getting a lot of jokes at my costs. Remember, other hobby is the herb and disqualified because of illegality. Great memories of lowered self esteem and slightly suicidal thoughts come to mind, didn't worked for me.
2. Ignore myself and engage in terms others bring up. Parenthood or refining their homes with their hands is hip at my age I found out. Because I care about what moves my family members and friends I hear a lot of their stuff and have a solid base of knowledge just because of the stories of others. Works for a while and is something has to be enough in a lot of situations for me. I get constant invites and people are happy to unload their stuff in front of me cause I always contribute and appriciate. Didn't work for me because I'm getting sick of hearing all this stuff that does not get me anywhere while rarely anybody is interested in hearing whats moving me.
3. Seeing it as a tradeoff and trying to balance it out in terms of revealing stuff about myself and wanting to hear stuff about the others. Turns out that this behaviour leaves the impression that I am the shy and introverted guy with that little freaky attitude nobody really wants to know more about. Living it this way and feeling good after getting comfortable with accepting to be seen this way. For the need of communicating about what really moves me i got you folks here at fuckcombustion and similar a institution for my videogame fantasies.
Sorry for this wall of text, I tend to over analyse things I guess...
TL;DR
Guess we are not becoming others in front of our computers, but dropping our masks and reveal ourselfs behind our computers. Not because of the fear of physical pain in the wild if we reveal there, but because of seeing chance of being understanded if we reveal here. If I expose myself I give something, and everyone feels better if it's appreciated what's being given instead of making fun out of it.
greetings,
horst
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Eschient
Giga-Dweebess
@horst Totally know where you're coming from there, especially with family. I'm around your age and half the time I feel like I'm an alien because I'm not up on all the proper housewife stuff. I don't have kids and I don't have the money to remodel so what the hell does a freaky black sheep in her mid-30s talk about to the norms? Answer - nothing, you just try and find a safe, generic topic. Blegh. I hate small talk. Oh, look, it's sunny and 80 down here. As usual. 
Utter torture. But at this point in my life I've decided masks aren't doing shit for me. I'm not going to lay on my deathbed wishing I'd made more small talk and I just don't have the time or energy to spend on doing things that aren't going to make my life happy for myself. I've invested my entire life thusfar into appearing as agreeable and unobtrusive as possible, hoping it would allow me to fit in well enough to belong somewhere. So far, it's been pretty much nothing but disappointment and emotional wreckage.
Then one day, thanks to our friendly herb, I realized that the times that I've been happiest are the times I've been the most free with myself. Where I wasn't trying to be the perfect whatever for someone else. That's where I've always drawn in the best people. And when I Started hiding things like my depression and what I really thought in order to "keep them" things would go to hell.
I felt like a world-class idiot. I always knew {in the way that the ego thinks it "knows" everything}, its my life, I'm entitled to make the best of it. What I didn't get was I was also obligated to make the best of it. I expected other people to take me along for the ride on their path in life - I had to figure out I was a person all my own, not an accessory, and my wet-dishrag level of passivity and desperation to not be rejected was the thing that really sabotaged everything I wanted so badly.
The people who are worth having in your life will be all the more drawn to your true and happy self. The ones you gotta change for {even if only in your own head} are never going to go down the same path as you are and that's ok too.
Of course, this assumes you aren't a sociopath or something. I wouldn't advocate drowing kittens or staging bum fights as a means of finding your happyland, lol.
Utter torture. But at this point in my life I've decided masks aren't doing shit for me. I'm not going to lay on my deathbed wishing I'd made more small talk and I just don't have the time or energy to spend on doing things that aren't going to make my life happy for myself. I've invested my entire life thusfar into appearing as agreeable and unobtrusive as possible, hoping it would allow me to fit in well enough to belong somewhere. So far, it's been pretty much nothing but disappointment and emotional wreckage.
Then one day, thanks to our friendly herb, I realized that the times that I've been happiest are the times I've been the most free with myself. Where I wasn't trying to be the perfect whatever for someone else. That's where I've always drawn in the best people. And when I Started hiding things like my depression and what I really thought in order to "keep them" things would go to hell.
I felt like a world-class idiot. I always knew {in the way that the ego thinks it "knows" everything}, its my life, I'm entitled to make the best of it. What I didn't get was I was also obligated to make the best of it. I expected other people to take me along for the ride on their path in life - I had to figure out I was a person all my own, not an accessory, and my wet-dishrag level of passivity and desperation to not be rejected was the thing that really sabotaged everything I wanted so badly.
The people who are worth having in your life will be all the more drawn to your true and happy self. The ones you gotta change for {even if only in your own head} are never going to go down the same path as you are and that's ok too.
Of course, this assumes you aren't a sociopath or something. I wouldn't advocate drowing kittens or staging bum fights as a means of finding your happyland, lol.
horst
horsed
@Eschient Full ack on your experiences, I've made up conclusions from this very similar to yours. Masking all the time would surely lead to some unhealthy conditions of mind.
It seems some kind of schizo to seperate yourself in the one you are behind your screen and in the wild but I guess it helps to strenghten a low self-esteem. Instead of just dreaming to reveal something to somebody you just can do it online and see what follows. Adopting it after you saw that it seems to be okay will give you a lot of more power to really live it that way.
And this is where the internet though guys scratch the surface, always dreamed to be a badass but got no guts? Fool around the forums without any consequences!
It seems some kind of schizo to seperate yourself in the one you are behind your screen and in the wild but I guess it helps to strenghten a low self-esteem. Instead of just dreaming to reveal something to somebody you just can do it online and see what follows. Adopting it after you saw that it seems to be okay will give you a lot of more power to really live it that way.
And this is where the internet though guys scratch the surface, always dreamed to be a badass but got no guts? Fool around the forums without any consequences!
