Vapman

weedemon said:

thanks for the video man. yes some good tips I like how it tells you to treat it with respect. do you guys find it to be pretty delicate too?

also "choice" are you from NZ by any chance? reminds me of my family from down there

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The vapman is not delicate. The vapman is like a fine sports car, it loves to be pushed. The vapman can vape the whole gambit and with the addition of the concentrates the vapman is a beast with concentrates and hash.

Ha no I'm not actually but I can see where you're coming from with that one

As with any piece of carefully crafted apparatus, the Vapman needs to be treated with care. It is very light and precise more than delicate. You probably would not want to just toss it in a bag with other stuff but it comes in a handy hard case for those occasions.

For continuity grab yourself a nice wooden stem too if you get the chance - it adds a lot in asthetics and feel in my opinion.

Oh, and with regards to the mica shield - you picked the right one

I bet i will go with a wooden mouth piece eventually. that explanation of light and precise over delicate makes sense. cheers!

fbrinsley said:

you say it's ok to combust, while technically i agree, nothing upsets me more than burny smokey when all i want is vapory vapor. i always have a cough attack that i fear will result in syncope when i combust. god forbid i fade to black operating a motor vehicle. no bueno.

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I feel you..the goal is not to combust but with a vape like the vapman you have to find the thresholds so you will know and learn.

yeah i accept that it might happen. like you said you can't know the limits until you have pushed them.

when people combust by accident with my daisy, I don't get mad, but i sure don't like it. it takes a while before the taste returns to normal.

Welcome to the club @weedemon, just got here myself! Shouldn't have taken me so long!

Had some hash in my Vapi and extracted every single bit of oil from it! Very nice! I think I over did it though and I charred my middle piece a good bit. I believe I inhaled quite a lot of wood smoke as well… Not nice… I sanded the inside of it a bit and a bit on the outside but some charring is still there. It will be covered with oils eventually but is this thing normal? I can see this happening again when heating a lot for concentrates…

@natural farmer the little bit of color change from oils and heat on the bottom 1/3 on the outside of the middle section seems normal, all the used vapman vapes I've seen get this way.

If your actually charring the outside of the middle section you may be using to long of a flame.

RUDE BOY said:

@natural farmer the little bit of color change from oils and heat on the bottom 1/3 on the outside of the middle section seems normal, all the used vapman vapes I've seen get this way..

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I was going to mention this earlier during the discussion about how little cleaning the vapman requires... Here's a photo I took of mine after having it for about 2.5 weeks:

The way it glistens, I was guessing it's the oils actually seeping up through the wood. I'm not sure, but it seems like some of this oil can burn during normal usage, too...? I've been getting this really strong unusual sweet taste sometimes when I'm really pushing the heat at the end of a bowl, something I never experienced with any other vape, or prior to accumulating such oil saturation in the vapman. Anyone else get this??

weedemon said:

was hoping someone would give me the coles notes version on tips for use? much appreciated!

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OT alert:

I'm a transplanted Montrealer living in the States, and it's been soooooo long since I heard the term "Coles Notes" used!' (Here it's Cliff Notes).

I even worked at the Coles on St Catherine (corner with Peel iirc) for half a year or so.

Back to topic: I really can't sing the praises of this lovingly crafted device highly enough. It's not just a vape; it's a little friend!

RUDE BOY said:

@natural farmer the little bit of color change from oils and heat on the bottom 1/3 on the outside of the middle section seems normal, all the used vapman vapes I've seen get this way.

If your actually charring the outside of the middle section you may be using to long of a flame.

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Well, I am not sure it's charring on the outside, but I removed the filter and it's certainly charred inside...

friedrich said:

I was going to mention this earlier during the discussion about how little cleaning the vapman requires... Here's a photo I took of mine after having it for about 2.5 weeks:

The way it glistens, I was guessing it's the oils actually seeping up through the wood. I'm not sure, but it seems like some of this oil can burn during normal usage, too...? I've been getting this really strong unusual sweet taste sometimes when I'm really pushing the heat at the end of a bowl, something I never experienced with any other vape, or prior to accumulating such oil saturation in the vapman. Anyone else get this??

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Have you opened it up to see inside?

Mine got like that when I started using lots of hash, kief and some oils. Perfectly normal I'd say. The one time I soaked it in acetone I actually got a good amount of reclaim. And from such a small piece of a small vape!

friedrich said:

I was going to mention this earlier during the discussion about how little cleaning the vapman requires... Here's a photo I took of mine after having it for about 2.5 weeks:

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so you guys say it ending up like this is normal? damn. looks like he might be smoking wood too. after only 2 weeks!? i can see oil on it in hte pic but the wood looked burned.

natural farmer said:

Have you opened it up to see inside?

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Just did, for the first time...


It's hard to tell, especially in the pictures, but I scraped at it a little and I'm pretty sure the wood isn't burned... just soaked with partly charred resin, which you can see comes up from the filter.

This is after about 4.5 weeks of use now, a few bowls a day on average, all bud.

fbrinsley said:

you say it's ok to combust, while technically i agree, nothing upsets me more than burny smokey when all i want is vapory vapor. i always have a cough attack that i fear will result in syncope when i combust. god forbid i fade to black operating a motor vehicle. no bueno.

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I dread to combust as well. The trick I found is to Not Draw when you smell the combusted herb - if you pay attention, you will smell it way before you move the vapman to your lips.

If you notice that nasty smell, do not draw, but instead take the middle section off, dump the burnt herb out and screen it quickly with a tissue/toilet paper. The bowl will clean right up.

The bowl and base will not hold the smell, but the middle section will.

Also, since you noticed the smell beforehand, no nasty smoke going into your lungs at all...

Hope this helps.

Kicking myself for not picking up one for $60 almost new on Craigslist locally. Really looking forward to trying one of these.

@natural farmer I understand that you are a little shocked and worried about the discoloration of the middle section and the possibility of inhaling burned wood.
It is absolutely normal that the wood soaks up some of the oils and is also normal that the wood gets dark from the heat but this doesn`t mean you are actually inhaling smoke. Wood burns way above the point of vaporization of the botanical resins but it gets dark quite quickly and stays stable after this for a long time. There is some wear and tear happening on the middle section but I am talking about using it for thousands of times before the middle section is worn to the point it needs replacing. I don`t recommend to do any sanding on the middle section at all, especially not on the flat ring part standing on the filter, this would lower the position of the two steel pins resulting that your vapman isn`t closing tightly anymore. It is a good thing to clean the filter now and then (I know people which never clean the filter) but don`t touch the wood too much. Scraping off the residues very gently and using a cotton swab soaked with some solvent will do the job. To get rid of the soaked up oils, you can actually immerse the whole middle section in acetone, this will not harm the wood in any way but solve the oils. As already mentioned before, vapman is very low maintenance and doesn`t need to be cleaned very often, at the latest when the mouthpiece is completely blocked and there is no more air coming through.(I have seen this)
After being on the market for such a long time, all the characteristics of vapman are well known already and we are walking on old paths with nothing really new to be expected.
I am aware that for everyone new to vapman, it is a new path to be explored but on this thread we have quite a lot of experienced path finder showing us the way.
Nothing is perfect but vapman is definitely as good as a vaporizer of 20 grams weight can be!


vapman

vapman said:

@natural farmer I understand that you are a little shocked and worried about the discoloration of the middle section and the possibility of inhaling burned wood.
It is absolutely normal that the wood soaks up some of the oils and is also normal that the wood gets dark from the heat but this doesn`t mean you are actually inhaling smoke. Wood burns way above the point of vaporization of the botanical resins but it gets dark quite quickly and stays stable after this for a long time. There is some wear and tear happening on the middle section but I am talking about using it for thousands of times before the middle section is worn to the point it needs replacing. I don`t recommend to do any sanding on the middle section at all, especially not on the flat ring part standing on the filter, this would lower the position of the two steel pins resulting that your vapman isn`t closing tightly anymore. It is a good thing to clean the filter now and then (I know people which never clean the filter) but don`t touch the wood too much. Scraping off the residues very gently and using a cotton swab soaked with some solvent will do the job. To get rid of the soaked up oils, you can actually immerse the whole middle section in acetone, this will not harm the wood in any way but solve the oils. As already mentioned before, vapman is very low maintenance and doesn`t need to be cleaned very often, at the latest when the mouthpiece is completely blocked and there is no more air coming through.(I have seen this)
After being on the market for such a long time, all the characteristics of vapman are well known already and we are walking on old paths with nothing really new to be expected.
I am aware that for everyone new to vapman, it is a new path to be explored but on this thread we have quite a lot of experienced path finder showing us the way.
Nothing is perfect but vapman is definitely as good as a vaporizer of 20 grams weight can be!


vapman

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No worries here @vapman! We have all inhaled burned wood at some points in our lives, some of us that like the outdoors maybe even more so. It's not the best think to inhale but it happens more than we think of in a lifetime…

I sure went a little overboard with heating some hash I put in and I could taste the difference when the charring occurred but stopped right away! It was gross… It definitely was some charred wood. When the filter gets overheated it radiates a lot of heat into the middle piece and some charring is unavoidable, I am sure, at least until there is some good deposit of oils. Again, no worries! I know you have to go to high temps to know the limits with flame powered vapes, lots of experience there with the Lotus and Vaporgenie…
We are also getting some smoke in our lungs, I am sure, until the charring settles in the basic vapmans as some of that little smoke goes up and into the small holes in the middle piece while drawing. That also happens with the Lotus when you overheat (some charring happens under the hotplate). I think this could happen with most wooden vapes in some way or another but it gets stable pretty soon as you said due to the absorption of oils that protect the wood. Of course some of these oils get a little burned or vaporized on the way as well, while using the vaporizer, leading to not so optimal taste but you can't have everything in life. Vapman already has a very nice taste taking into account how much it relies on conduction.

About the sanding, I don't think it did more for me than taking of some built up resins and I didn't sand the lower part enough to have issues with not closing tight, I have done the same mistake with the Lotus so I was careful enough.

Oh, and put me in line for your first olive tree wood Vapman! I would love to send you an olive tree piece of wood myself if possible. From a 400 year old tree maybe? That would be special… We have some really old olive trees around Greece and they are still heavily pruned.

I wish I could do some more herb testing here but it will have to be e-juice for the moment until I get to the stash. Maybe I should also get another middle piece for herbs and another for hash.

weedemon said:

dude thanks a lot that is very helpful! can't wait for it to arrive! got the walnut (I just love the wood so much) version with the mica covering. hope i bought the optimal version the charred wood on the version i saw back in the day was enough to turn me off.

i got an extra screen while i was at it. but reading here briefly it seems that it may not be needed. (exp tells me all my other vapes think it's nice to have spare screens.

btw, first time dealing with torontovaporizer.ca they were good folks! gave me free expedited shipping for no reason. i also got 13% off and a free torch lighter. so now I will have 2 torches to replace my broken one.

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weedemon said:

thanks for the video man. yes some good tips I like how it tells you to treat it with respect. do you guys find it to be pretty delicate too?

also "choice" are you from NZ by any chance? reminds me of my family from down there

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LOL "Chooice ahy" Kia ora ^"dude" sure your form Canada ? .k1w1

Tats, anyone?

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vapman said:

@natural farmer I understand that you are a little shocked and worried about the discoloration of the middle section and the possibility of inhaling burned wood.
It is absolutely normal that the wood soaks up some of the oils and is also normal that the wood gets dark from the heat but this doesn`t mean you are actually inhaling smoke. Wood burns way above the point of vaporization of the botanical resins but it gets dark quite quickly and stays stable after this for a long time. There is some wear and tear happening on the middle section but I am talking about using it for thousands of times before the middle section is worn to the point it needs replacing. I don`t recommend to do any sanding on the middle section at all, especially not on the flat ring part standing on the filter, this would lower the position of the two steel pins resulting that your vapman isn`t closing tightly anymore. It is a good thing to clean the filter now and then (I know people which never clean the filter) but don`t touch the wood too much. Scraping off the residues very gently and using a cotton swab soaked with some solvent will do the job. To get rid of the soaked up oils, you can actually immerse the whole middle section in acetone, this will not harm the wood in any way but solve the oils. As already mentioned before, vapman is very low maintenance and doesn`t need to be cleaned very often, at the latest when the mouthpiece is completely blocked and there is no more air coming through.(I have seen this)
After being on the market for such a long time, all the characteristics of vapman are well known already and we are walking on old paths with nothing really new to be expected.
I am aware that for everyone new to vapman, it is a new path to be explored but on this thread we have quite a lot of experienced path finder showing us the way.
Nothing is perfect but vapman is definitely as good as a vaporizer of 20 grams weight can be!


vapman

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Hey @vapman,

On the mouthpieces, are some woods better at withstanding heat/charring than others?

I think Walnut is more resistant to heat than Pear, but I might be wrong. You know much more about woods than I, and have more experiences dealing with this tye of thing too.

Are the other woods that are even more resistant than Walnut?

Thanks!

M0J0 said:

Hey @vapman,

On the mouthpieces, are some woods better at withstanding heat/charring than others?

I think Walnut is more resistant to heat than Pear, but I might be wrong. You know much more about woods than I, and have more experiences dealing with this tye of thing too.

Are the other woods that are even more resistant than Walnut?

Thanks!

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I'm no wood expert!!!
The HARDER the better!!!!!! Lol
Maybe the ladies can comment. haHaHa

Melting Pot said:

I'm no wood expert!!!
The HARDER the better!!!!!! Lol
Maybe the ladies can comment. haHaHa

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I walked right into that one...

I used to work with a guy who's last name was "Smallwood." seriously... I shit you not.

I would have changed it legally to Longwood or Hardwood!

i'd agree, the more dense the better imo.

weedemon said:

i'd agree, the more dense the better imo.

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You'd think so, wouldn't you? I sure did. Then I found out that the 'ideal' fire resistant wood at least for a shipping container is California Redwood. Honest. They make shipping containers for nukes from it. I've seen photos, it's like a cross between a big wine keg and one of those Chinese puzzles that come apart if you pull the pieces off in the right order.

The woods around here have lots of big trees hit by lightening a couple hundred years ago, and while partially burned out, the fire died out with enough of the tree still standing to find sunlight and survive. The Oaks, Firs, Pines and those guys burn hundreds of acres when lightening hits them. Soft wood, basically bug proof as well.

Anyway, if you plan to soak your VM in fuel, then put it in the center of a burning crashed plane seems Redwood is what you want? Or maybe that means you need a Redwood case........

OF

I swear that earlier I was about to post: "I miss OF, and Steama..." [Seren has been around recently]

I always learn from your posts, OF. - where's the "picking your brains emoji?"

Thanks!