catjammin99

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Shiba Inus are gorgeous!! Very smart too!! Great name lol. Is yours male Or female? Looks like the new poster child for the Air! I Would like your dog better than many peoole too!!
 
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Vesto Slipher

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Doesn't it make more sense to purchase a newly manufactured battery in a couple years, when your current ones no longer hold a charge, rather than trying to preserve one until then?

If BAK, whose batteries Arizer uses, should stop making the battery, what are the key specs to seek a replacement with?
 

OF

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Doesn't it make more sense to purchase a newly manufactured battery in a couple years, when your current ones no longer hold a charge, rather than trying to preserve one until then?

If BAK, whose batteries Arizer uses, should stop making the battery, what are the key specs to seek a replacement with?

Your call. But given that properly stored you can still get ten years useful service, I see no real advantage. I seriously doubt the Air will last half that long? One way or the other......

To me it makes more sense to have the spare handy when you need it.

There still are no known "key specs to seek a replacement with", which is why the 'smart money' says to stick with the factory unit.

OF
 

Madcap79

Jack of all trades, master of none.
Doesn't it make more sense to purchase a newly manufactured battery in a couple years, when your current ones no longer hold a charge, rather than trying to preserve one until then?

If BAK, whose batteries Arizer uses, should stop making the battery, what are the key specs to seek a replacement with?
Mine came as part of a deal. I wasn't going to not take it. Haha. I wouldn't have purchased an extra one if it didn't come with it.
 

NinjaMindTriks

Ninja Vapor Enthusiast
So I've been putting the air through some real workouts. I have 2 batteries and I have been using the LUC V4 charger thanks @olivianewtonjohn for the recommendation! I love that you can change batteries, the cleanup is a breeze. It's very easy to load the stems and then just cap them, or have a Jyarz full of herb to just suck into the stem. I really like the size. It's very small but can put out a lot of vapor. It doesn't get hot to the touch, only nice and warm. I also like that it looks like a ecig mod. I have used this all over and no one gives it a second look. Overall I think arizer knocked it out of the park with this portable. I have a vortex stem and do love the function of it, but the stems that come with it are the most low key. I was wondering if anyone knew the size screen to get for the plastic tipped stems? I get little pieces of herb in my mouth using them.
 

al bundy

Vaporist
1/2 in screens should sit flat in the Air/solo stems.
Or use 5//8 screen and dome/cup them yourself or buy1/2 in domes screens already shaped.
I put a screen from the HI in the plastic tip stem where the silicone washer is, helps a lot.
 

sickmanfraud

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Can anyone in this thread point me in the direction of a DHGate water tool that will fit with my 14 mm gongs for Air and Solo?

I have an f-bomb 14 mm, but was thinking at the prices people quote I couldn't afford not to buy one if I can get one with a 14 mm FEMALE connection.

Thanks in advance
 
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Pappy

shmaporist
@McSheamus & @WoodVillain: That's a PV 18mm GonG and a ALT M2F 18mm/14mm 45 degree adapter. Simply insert in bong to use Solo or Air as water tool, although I vape mostly waterless these days.

BTW picked up PV Vortex stem. It's OK but I prefer PV GonG/Adapter mouthpiece method. Vortex actually makes more sense in use with Solo than Air due to Air's slender silhouette.
 
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biohacker

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The Solo draws a bit easier but introduces more air to the vapor mix. The Air -- which introduces slightly less air to the vapor mix -- draws a bit harder but produces slightly more condensed vapor IMO.

That's trippy, my experience is the exact opposite.
 
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Pappy

shmaporist
That's trippy, my experience is the exact opposite.
If/when the Air loosens up more air may get introduced to the vapor mix. On my new Air the fit is still very tight, hence less air and more condensed vapor. As similar as they are the Solo and Air differ in design and I think the Solo has more capacity to capture extraneous air. That's my take.
 

stickstones

Vapor concierge
If/when the Air loosens up more air may get introduced to the vapor mix. On my new Air the fit is still very tight, hence less air and more condensed vapor. As similar as they are the Solo and Air differ in design and I think the Solo has more capacity to capture extraneous air. That's my take.

I was hitting the Air the other day and lifting the stem just a bit so it wasn't touching the bottom. I felt like this increased the air flow. Some day I'm going to have to load up my Air and Solo at the same time and compare them.
 

Pappy

shmaporist
I was hitting the Air the other day and lifting the stem just a bit so it wasn't touching the bottom. I felt like this increased the air flow. Some day I'm going to have to load up my Air and Solo at the same time and compare them.
That's what I did, compared side by side, hit for hit. Does the Air tend to loosen in time like the Solo?
 
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stickstones

Vapor concierge
Mine hasn't, but I haven't had that 'time' factor you speak of yet. I've probably only used it about ten times so far. And my Solo is an older model without the retention ring so I don't know what to expect.
 
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Pappy

shmaporist
People use O rings on the Solo because it characteristically loosens up. This and the Solo's form factor and capacity introduce more air to the vapor mix. Re: lifting the stem to ease the draw, I favor PV stems because PV grooves seem to remedy restricted draw without adding extraneous oxygen to the vapor mix. Lifting the stem to loosen the draw dilutes the vapor.
 
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olivianewtonjohn

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So I've been putting the air through some real workouts. I have 2 batteries and I have been using the LUC V4 charger thanks @olivianewtonjohn for the recommendation! I love that you can change batteries, the cleanup is a breeze. It's very easy to load the stems and then just cap them, or have a Jyarz full of herb to just suck into the stem. I really like the size. It's very small but can put out a lot of vapor. It doesn't get hot to the touch, only nice and warm. I also like that it looks like a ecig mod. I have used this all over and no one gives it a second look. Overall I think arizer knocked it out of the park with this portable. I have a vortex stem and do love the function of it, but the stems that come with it are the most low key. I was wondering if anyone knew the size screen to get for the plastic tipped stems? I get little pieces of herb in my mouth using them.
Glad you like the LUC V4. I just used it last night and was thinking to myself, why isnt this charger more popular? It has more features than other chargers and is cheaper; all from a pretty good brand. For example the D4 cant charge 4 batteries at 1amp (or 2 batteries at 2amps), it charges 4@375mA and 2@750mA yet is $30 vs $22

Go with the dome screens from ebay. Listed a few times here by @Sinclue @OF and a few others

I was hitting the Air the other day and lifting the stem just a bit so it wasn't touching the bottom. I felt like this increased the air flow. Some day I'm going to have to load up my Air and Solo at the same time and compare them.

Yeah at first I thought it was a negative that my 60mm stock stem wasnt flat; has alittle wobble. Turned out to be a pro! Need more airflow? Just wobble it as you draw
 
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biohacker

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That's what I did, compared side by side, hit for hit. Does the Air tend to loosen in time like the Solo?

Mine hasn't, but my older one did (sold it) because of a 3rd party gong. My present air is like new, and my Solo is very loose....I don't use o-rings. It's very evident that the Air has better airflow, I always thought it was due to the design of the top grill, allowing more air into it and up from the bottom. There have been posts here with people trying to cover up the grill to reduce airflow. I have also done extensive head to head testing with glass, and the extra airflow in the Air really reduces the ability to milk, compared to the Solo. Temp for temp.

I favor PV stems because PV grooves seem to remedy restricted draw without adding extraneous oxygen to the vapor mix. Lifting the stem to loosen the draw dilutes the vapor.

And how would they accomplish this? Any added airflow is adding air. Lifting the stem is no different IMO. I just don't understand how it would be?
 
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So finally got my hands on the Air and it met or exceeded expectations. It is indeed a shrunken Solo but achieving this took no less than a marvel in engineering. The build and design are finely finished as we've come to expect from Steve and Team Arizer. The heat displacement -- top to bottom -- is remarkable for such a miniaturized surface, especially considering its vapor output.

The Air and Solo work the same in principal but there's a slightly discernible difference. The Solo draws a bit easier but introduces more air to the vapor mix. The Air -- which introduces slightly less air to the vapor mix -- draws a bit harder but produces slightly more condensed vapor IMO.

Arizer finally removed the power charger from the vape's bottom (Solo) and put it on the side (Air) which is a positive. OTOH the Air's slender silhouette makes it prone to tip over more easily than a Solo. I have mixed feelings about the removable battery. It empowers the user but swapping batteries in and out in between sessions to charge is less than an optimum solution -- as is a stand alone charger. I wouldn't wan't to own more than 2 batteries, any more would be a waste. Owning a stand alone charger to charge a single battery feels like clutter.

And as you can see the Air got my dog very very stoned. :nod:

What is that lovely piece attached to this unit?
 
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Deano

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Now that I've been using the air for a few days I will say it's pulls easier than the solo and hits sometimes seem a lot less restrictive.

One thing I did notice is the solo has better taste.
With the air on blue it taste good and actually is warm enough to vape a whole session. White is the same way but it seems to have that roasted herb or burnt popcorn taste.

I think the solo simply has better flavor and is more true to the herb. Maybe this is from the longer glass stems. Maybe it's because I haven't yet tried the regular glass stem that comes with the air, I've only used the plastic tipped one the first couple days. It doesn't taste like plastic so I'm not sure how much of an impact this plays here.

Any thoughts?
 

Jeppy

Pure Vaporist
Now that I've been using the air for a few days I will say it's pulls easier than the solo and hits sometimes seem a lot less restrictive.

One thing I did notice is the solo has better taste.
With the air on blue it taste good and actually is warm enough to vape a whole session. White is the same way but it seems to have that roasted herb or burnt popcorn taste.

I think the solo simply has better flavor and is more true to the herb. Maybe this is from the longer glass stems. Maybe it's because I haven't yet tried the regular glass stem that comes with the air, I've only used the plastic tipped one the first couple days. It doesn't taste like plastic so I'm not sure how much of an impact this plays here.

Any thoughts?
I get that taste, "eventually" on any color. Even blue. It just increases somewhat as temp is increased. I tend not to roast the herb. In other words, I'm not trying to completely finish a load. This in order to preserve taste.
 

biohacker

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Now that I've been using the air for a few days I will say it's pulls easier than the solo and hits sometimes seem a lot less restrictive.

This appears to differ by user (see @Pappy post) but I completely share your experience.

One thing I did notice is the solo has better taste.

Must be subjective again, because I notice the complete opposite and get better taste with my Air, I assumed due to better airflow, and perhaps a slightly more diluted hit?

With the air on blue it taste good and actually is warm enough to vape a whole session. White is the same way but it seems to have that roasted herb or burnt popcorn taste.

I think the solo simply has better flavor and is more true to the herb. Maybe this is from the longer glass stems. Maybe it's because I haven't yet tried the regular glass stem that comes with the air, I've only used the plastic tipped one the first couple days. It doesn't taste like plastic so I'm not sure how much of an impact this plays here.

I get that taste, "eventually" on any color. Even blue. It just increases somewhat as temp is increased. I tend not to roast the herb. In other words, I'm not trying to completely finish a load. This in order to preserve taste.

Same here, the longer you hit it, the more it will get abv tasting. I still get great tasting hits on green, and even yellow or red (that of course don't last).

I personally think the most important factor in taste/flavour is not allowing any material to make contact with the bottom plate. I have proved awesome convection hits with a well warmed up Solo/Air and a gong by starting to pull as soon as I inserted the Solo or Air. Super massive flavourable clouds!

I love my Air (and Solo)!
 

poonman

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I personally think the most important factor in taste/flavour is not allowing any material to make contact with the bottom plate.

I love my Air (and Solo)!

Agree ,
I would like to add good maintenance of your vape .
Keep your airpath/stems/whips/heating chamber clean , resin free .
Resins can def. alter and compromise your flavor and taste .
 
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