The Lotus Vaporizer

JimmyCricket · Mar 22, 2015

Do you think I would have enough space to fit the lotus cap on this piece with just the WPA?

http://www.bakebros.com/14mm-con-wp-grid-perc-sidecar-long-mouth-green/

Gray Area · Mar 22, 2015

JimmyCricket said:
Do you think I would have enough space to fit the lotus cap on this piece with just the WPA?

http://www.bakebros.com/14mm-con-wp-grid-perc-sidecar-long-mouth-green/

That piece looks to have a 14mm male joint... You'd need a 14mm female to female adapter to use it.
Ideally you want a 14mm female joint for the WPA.

RastaVapa · Mar 22, 2015

I have been using my lotus for about 18 months solid everyday and am on my second plate v3 I believe , and I started noticing it was darkening the load on one side of bowl and it seems harder to draw through almost impossible when hot so I took the newish plate off and the thinner two plates underneath are all bent and warped /damaged etc .

I assume its just a new cap now? as I cannot find this other thin plate as a spare part, its odd as it heats up you can hear the plate click and bend up sealing the airflow off

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how long have other peoples caps lasted?

I have done quite a bit of hash through it esp when I took it to dam for a week so it has done well suppose I will have to order a new one today....

JimmyCricket · Mar 22, 2015

Gray Area said:
That piece looks to have a 14mm male joint... You'd need a 14mm female to female adapter to use it.
Ideally you want a 14mm female joint for the WPA.

Thank you lol. All this glass stuff is tricky, was getting the female/male joints confused

Delta3DStudios · Mar 22, 2015

RastaVapa said:
bent and warped /damaged etc .

The "Inner Plate" is held in place with a special metal trim ring. When you looked at the inner plate, how was the outer trim ring? Was it fully secured or was it loose on one side?

My one lotus cap had a bent/warped inner plate, but it was working fine. It's not until that trim ring comes loose that you have problems. Sadly, the inner trim ring and inner plate are specially installed at the factory and cannot be replaced by the customer.

A cap will last as long as you treat it right! It seems going high in temperature or improper torch control can kill the cap, but in terms of durability, it should last longer than you if handled properly!

JimmyCricket said:
Thank you lol. All this glass stuff is tricky, was getting the female/male joints confused

It can get pretty confusing with the various terms and sizes. Remember to watch for the frosted (ground glass) - if it's on the inside of the piece, it's a female. If it's ground on the outside it's a male.

pakalolo · Mar 22, 2015

Ratchett said:
Remember to watch for the frosted (ground glass) - if it's on the inside of the piece, it's a female. If it's ground on the outside it's a male.

In my day, we never had no frosted glass. We had to say that if it goes into something then it's male and if something goes into it then it's female, and that was good enough for us.

RastaVapa · Mar 22, 2015

Ratchett said:
The "Inner Plate" is held in place with a special metal trim ring. When you looked at the inner plate, how was the outer trim ring? Was it fully secured or was it loose on one side?

My one lotus cap had a bent/warped inner plate, but it was working fine. It's not until that trim ring comes loose that you have problems. Sadly, the inner trim ring and inner plate are specially installed at the factory and cannot be replaced by the customer.

A cap will last as long as you treat it right! It seems going high in temperature or improper torch control can kill the cap, but in terms of durability, it should last longer than you if handled properly!

It seemed in place has got little tabs that push into wood around edges but I have removed it now to inspect damage properly and I would say its dead...... Prob def my fault as I have let a lot of others as well use it and have smelt singed wood on more than a few occasions :lol:

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BTW if I had known how much abv powder accumulated under that other inner plate clip I would def not have taken to dam with me I even air lined it and it was still there

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Delta3DStudios · Mar 22, 2015

Strange, my cap is always ABV free...... I guess I prevent ABV blowback, and blow out my cap after every session

beware116 · Mar 22, 2015

I'm really terrible at avoiding blow back, but I always blow my cap out.

Do we have any information about the higher-temp Lotus other than "it will probably exist?"

JimmyCricket · Mar 22, 2015

I'm having trouble finding something cheap that is 14mm female. Is that like uncommon?

beware116 · Mar 22, 2015

A lot of the cheap pieces are male for some reason. Riding the dabbing wave, I guess. Again, I don't think people should stress about 14mm vs 18mm. Adapters are available in all sorts of materials for very little money. The most important part about pairing a bubbler with your Lotus is finding something you love. If the piece comes with extras you can almost certainly ask them to substitute a reducer or two.

JimmyCricket · Mar 22, 2015

I agree, but at the same time I'm just trying to keep the cost down/order less parts

beware116 · Mar 22, 2015

Like I said, most of the pieces you buy from pretty much anyone will have extras anyways. Just get them replaced with a reducer since you don't need the extra equipment anyways. I'm sitting on about 6 bowls that I'll never use because I didn't think to get reducers or anything actually useful instead.

JimmyCricket · Mar 22, 2015

beware116 said:
Like I said, most of the pieces you buy from pretty much anyone will have extras anyways. Just get them replaced with a reducer since you don't need the extra equipment anyways. I'm sitting on about 6 bowls that I'll never use because I didn't think to get reducers or anything actually useful instead.

So when I order them just ask for reducers or adapters instead? Do you know any specific retailers that do this?

beware116 · Mar 22, 2015

Sunshine Glass is always pleasant and communicative. Make sure you message in advance, but they've been very accommodating. Their reducers are a little long, so be wary if you're getting a smaller piece. It didn't fit my 6" bubbler (though that was hardly a surprise).

Delta3DStudios · Mar 23, 2015

JimmyCricket said:
I'm having trouble finding something cheap that is 14mm female. Is that like uncommon?

Why not get a small inline ash-catcher and pair that with the J-Hook? Actually for that matter, I REALLY enjoyed my Lotus with the Grav Labs J-Hook and a pinch of water (maybe 30mL) in the neck of the Hook.

beware116 said:
I'm sitting on about 6 bowls that I'll never use because I didn't think to get reducers or anything actually useful instead.

I'm also sitting on a bunch of glass nails, domes, bowls, etc from my various glass acquisitions. I have heard reports of people taking those unused accessories to their LHS and trading them in for store credit. Results may vary depending on your LHS, but as long as you're clear that these parts are un-used, I'm sure they'd be cool with giving some store credit

JimmyCricket · Mar 23, 2015

Thanks for the advice guys! I do not have a J hook for my lotus currently. I really want something that uses more water though. Guess I am just being a little too cheap when it comes to glass

beware116 · Mar 23, 2015

Good idea, @Ratchett

@JimmyCricket - Sunshine Glass on DHGate has plenty of cheap pieces that pair well with the Lotus. Check out the cheap glass thread.

cybrguy · Mar 23, 2015

I have a couple ash catchers that I use with my J-Hook listed in my sig. With the Lotus it makes for a simple handheld water enhanced experience that I like a lot. I can't recommend it highly enough.

Edit: Gotta say I think this is my fav of the 2 as it holds more water, but I like the Grav Labs one also.

hoptimum · Mar 23, 2015

Behaviorist said:
On another note, I think my favorite piece I did use with the Lotus was the d020. I had read people thought that you were to close to the flame, but it didn't bother me. I also used a 15" piece from Dhgate that the Lotus didn't seem to keep up with.

I agree. The Lotus, and for that matter, logs seem to work best in the smaller bubblers. The D020 is perfect for the smaller vaporizers, IMO.

bounce5 · Mar 23, 2015

cybrguy said:
I have a couple ash catchers that I use with my J-Hook listed in my sig. With the Lotus it makes for a simple handheld water enhanced experience that I like a lot. I can't recommend it highly enough.

Edit: Gotta say I think this is my fav of the 2 as it holds more water, but I like the Grav Labs one also.

That looks nice...what's the name of that ashcatcher and where did you get it?

cybrguy · Mar 23, 2015

The best of the chinese glass vendors. The link is the last item in my sig.

FYI, all the items in my sig are links...

JimmyCricket · Mar 23, 2015

cybrguy said:
The best of the chinese glass vendors. The link is the last item in my sig.

FYI, all the items in my sig are links...

I think I am going to go with either the D020 or the D020-D. Any input?

stickstones · Mar 23, 2015

The D020 has minimal diffusion for more flavor, but doesn't remove as many particulates.

JimmyCricket · Mar 23, 2015

stickstones said:
The D020 has minimal diffusion for more flavor, but doesn't remove as many particulates.

So am I right in thinking the D020 will have more flavor but the D020-D would be smoother?

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