DoubleVanos
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Hmm.. Ok that's sounds about the same as mine. I'm at 49 hrs.
Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel
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t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Yes the first performance drop happens when you lose 2 bars, then again when you lose another 2. Then it drops on each of the next 2 bars until death. But it is definitely battery management, you can see it happening in distinct intervals.
I've definitely noticed a similar pattern with my Arizer Air, although only near the end. With the Air it's a non-issue with replaceable batteries, and once S&B releases a product that allows battery swapping, i'm in.
I also forgot to mention how easy and awesome cleaning the Crafty is!
I also forgot to mention how easy and awesome cleaning the Crafty is!
Vaporcussion
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Just over 3 minutes to get to 349 F and that was on a full battery
DoubleVanos
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66 hours/full battery took 2:48 to reach 180º
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Around 2:30 to default. Not sure where I saw the 90 second warm up time, maybe I imagined that... Couldn't find anything about an actual time on the S&B website.
@smokie , Quickest warm up time so far, and u just happen to have the least amount of hours. Coincidence??
Sinclue
OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
That happened to me once. Try turning your phone completely off then on and try restarting the App. Can't rememeber who suggested that to me, but it happened to work.
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Vaporcussion
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or reinstall the app
natural farmer
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At 51 hours it takes 2.12 for my Crafty to reach 180C and 2.32 to go to my preferred 210C with a full bat. That's too long for me and it only gets worst as bars drop and hours pass by... 
I finish my bowls in 10 minutes or more so I'm ok with this.
Krizzle
Hi Very high
Full battery. 75hrs on the clock took 2mins to get to 170C. Full bowl of Skunk (UK Psychosis brand) session taken me about 15mins could of easily lasted longer but yeah I seem to get a 20min session then another one at 18-20mins. So battery life is still 30-40mins per full charge
I still charge after every session unless I am out without the battery pack then Crafty on charge as soon as I am back at the ranch.
I still charge after every session unless I am out without the battery pack then Crafty on charge as soon as I am back at the ranch.
Vaporcussion
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Last night I did one session on a full battery and ended up at 49% afterwards. So, now I'm down from 3 sessions per charge to two. Plus, I don't even pack full bowls; I do half bowls with the oil pad on top. Now, that says great things about the efficiency for sure; got more hits than I could remember! But, only two sessions per charge?
I'm getting at least 4 bowls per charge filing it right up. Maybe 5.
I'll time up how long it takes to 180c. It has 9 hours on it and was bought at release!
I love this thing! But I'm new to this thread, and wondering how many hours the longest running units are around here?
I'll time up how long it takes to 180c. It has 9 hours on it and was bought at release!
I love this thing! But I'm new to this thread, and wondering how many hours the longest running units are around here?
Weez65
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Aproaching 100hrs and mine still operates pretty much flawlessly. I've never had a hiccup really. Just timed my battery. 2:29 to 180c with a loaded chamber.
There are some rules I follow that may or may not help. I have no technical knowledge in the area so feel free, if you do, to tell me that you doubt one or more of these make a difference. If it helps in no way whatsoever, I might as well stop doing it.
1.) I try to always charge after every session. Occasionally I don't for various reasons. But 9 out of ten times, crafty gets charged after each use.
2.) it's inconvenient I admit, but I wait 10 to 15 minutes to plug in the charger. Until the battery has cooled some. I have read people express caution about charging hot batteries. I don't know if they are right about this so I have always chose the cautious side.
3.) No pass through charging. I've never used it. Again, same reason as above. When the product was new I heard people express caution in this area, so I decided to just not use it until the issue was more settled. So I have never passed through while using my crafty.
4.) My crafty does make forays out into the real world with me from time to time, but it's mostly just my home portable vape. But even outside, I live in a very mild geographical location. ( coast of Washington state. ) generally speaking, my unit does not experience much in the way of temperature extremes while being used. Hot or cold.
5.) This is one I'd love to hear from a expert on. When my solo was my main vape, I had a odd bug I found in its charger. If I unplugged the cord from the wall, while it was still plugged into the solo, it would space the solo unit out and it wouldn't perform right until you let it sit for about an hour. Then in some way it must have reset itself and it would be fine. If you unplugged the unit first, then the cord, you were fine. Well of course this became a odd habit out of caution with all my vapes. I always unplug the vape first, then the cord from the wall.
*Edit* 6.) After writing this I realized there is a 6th factor worth mentioning. And I'm sure plenty of you will not like hearing it. This may be something that improves battery life, but also the health of your unit in general.
*I don't boost. *
Almost ever. Sometimes when I'm water filtering. Occasionally. But most the time I pretty much keep it right on the default. For me, it seems to work nearly as well for visible vapor, is more comfortable, and I really think the Crafty has some parallels to the Pinnacle Pro DLX vape. Until I used the Crafty the PnP was the best vape I had ever used for vape production and quality. It's problem was that it just could not handle its own heat. It literally just slowly disentigrated as you used it. It was very frustrating.
I don't think the crafty is as fragile as the PnP, but when I read story's about pieces of the body falling off the Crafty, it sounds a lot like the things I read on PnP forums.
I'm not saying for sure that using the crafty at higher temps is the foundation for everyone's trouble, I am however, saying that if you can satisfy yourself using a lower temp, I would guess it would be better for the long term health of your $400 dollar vape. That was incentive enough for me to keep it on the default. And really guys, SnB did do at least SOME testing, it may be they picked 180c as the default for more of a reason than just your personal comfort. They may be well aware that their product lasts longer by not using the high end temps. Just my opinion here.
That's it I think. I feel lucky to have mine going strong aproaching 100 hrs when I have read of so many others stories. Did I just get a great unit? Maybe. Probably. But this is the way I have charged. Maybe it will help, maybe it won't. Your call.
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Michel
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@Weez65 
Great, hope you make the 200hrs.
Totally agree from point 1-4, you're doing totally right!
5) is hard to get for me, never experienced this with any electric device.
Normally, you should first plug the device to the cord, then plug it in the wall because sparks directly on the power connector of the unit itself can cause over voltage.
On high currents generally you shouldn't disconnect electric devices neither if possible, but this is for very high currents only while using the device, not for vapes! (Disconnect e.g. drilling machine on full power/speed isn't good for the inner electrics caused to large over voltage)
Normally the AC power adapter of electric devices don't like this behavior, neither. They have often a Ferrit Block on the power cord to prevent damage caused by over voltage . You could try an additional Ferrit block on the end of solos power cord. It could prevent the possible over voltage causing your problems, since Ferrit is magnetic and works as inductive resistor. Just thinking loud...
All I wrote depends on the used plug. Isolated plugs don't have this problem, normally. (The charger from the mighty is isolated, e.g.)
USB and low current should be fine every way you connect or disconnect it.
Just be careful with shitty current driving jack plugs.
But to be true, I never take care which side of the cord is plugged.
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@vapeppau how true your words are!
Great, hope you make the 200hrs.
Totally agree from point 1-4, you're doing totally right!
5) is hard to get for me, never experienced this with any electric device.
Normally, you should first plug the device to the cord, then plug it in the wall because sparks directly on the power connector of the unit itself can cause over voltage.
On high currents generally you shouldn't disconnect electric devices neither if possible, but this is for very high currents only while using the device, not for vapes! (Disconnect e.g. drilling machine on full power/speed isn't good for the inner electrics caused to large over voltage)
Normally the AC power adapter of electric devices don't like this behavior, neither. They have often a Ferrit Block on the power cord to prevent damage caused by over voltage . You could try an additional Ferrit block on the end of solos power cord. It could prevent the possible over voltage causing your problems, since Ferrit is magnetic and works as inductive resistor. Just thinking loud...
All I wrote depends on the used plug. Isolated plugs don't have this problem, normally. (The charger from the mighty is isolated, e.g.)
USB and low current should be fine every way you connect or disconnect it.
Just be careful with shitty current driving jack plugs.
But to be true, I never take care which side of the cord is plugged.
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@vapeppau how true your words are!
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Weez65
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@Weez65
Great, hope you make the 200hrs.
Totally agree from point 1-4, you're doing totally right!
5) is hard to get for me, never experienced this with any electric device.
Normally, you should first plug the device to the cord, then plug it in the wall because sparks directly on the power connector of the unit itself can cause over voltage.
On high currents generally you shouldn't disconnect electric devices neither if possible, but this is for very high currents only while using the device, not for vapes! (Disconnect e.g. drilling machine on full power/speed isn't good for the inner electrics caused to large over voltage)
Normally the AC power adapter of electric devices don't like this behavior, neither. They have often a Ferrit Block on the power cord to prevent damage caused by over voltage . You could try a Ferrit block on the end of solos power cord. It could prevent the possible over voltage causing your problems, since Ferrit is magnetic and works as inductive resistor.
All I wrote depends on the used plug. Isolated plugs don't have this problem, normally. (The charger from the mighty is isolated, e.g.)
USB and low current should be fine every way you connect or disconnect it.
Just be careful with shitty current driving jack plugs.
But to be true, I never take care which side of the cord is plugged.
Ok very interesting. I didn't know.
I don't know what was up with that Solo. It was my first vape ever and that was two years ago. Maybe it was an early model design flaw. I know many users in here have used the Solo, I wonder if anyone else had this happen? So yeah, I just got in the habit of unplugging it in the order that didn't seem to cause problems. So as I've moved to new vapes, not knowing one way or the other, I just kept doing it that way as a "just in case" policy.
The plug used to do one other thing that tripped me out to. When it was plugged in there was a red LED light on it. When you would unplug it, the light would stay on for a good full second to two seconds after unplugged. Is that normal? Also, this was one of the Solo adapters from back when the Solo did not offer pass through. You could only charged when not using.
Anyways, it sounds to me like you are telling me that I shouldn't worry about number 5. That if I WERE to run into a problem like this, it would be something very unusual and not the norm. Thanks for the heads up.
Michel
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red light is normal because of condensators in the device saving the electricity for a few secs if I remember right. But I'm not an electrician and my technical English is to bad to explain that in less than a day. Would look like him : 
Forget the solo, you'll enjoy the S&B unit much more. You can charge it like you want
Forget the solo, you'll enjoy the S&B unit much more. You can charge it like you want