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Athlete Vaporists?

Vapinghole

Low-Temp Hempist / JedHI Master
I like this thread! It shows that there's not a contradiction between MJ use and being athletic and living a healthy lifestyle. A lot of people still view MJ users as unmotivated slackers who sit around and pig out on Cheetos all day and get nothing done.

Hear, hear! I vape daily and am uber-active/productive.

Also, congrats on your 1/2 marathon--nice finish time!
 

killbill

New Member
My wife was a semi-professional tennis player and I play tennis about 5 times a week as well as run marathons/lift weights. Now that I'm in my 30s I've found my habit is hurting stamina so I just got back from the local head shop with a volcano vape and joined the forum. Taking it out of the box now and hopefully stopping combustion will let me continue on with my favorite hobby!
 

psycro

Hippo Lungz
I am a competitive swimmer and i have been vaporizing (almost daily) for about 3 years now. I medicate before my workouts which can be very long (2-4 hours) and very cruel and of course afterwards. Normally i have about 7 sessions a week in the water and additional 2-3 sessions of dryland (weights or plyos,endurance like rowing, running etc.) The feeling to get stoned after a hard practice session is unbeatable for me and I am kind of chasing that feeling everyday. When I take a day of from working out it just does not feel the same getting medicated. That is why cannabis is actually motivating me to work harder. The stereotype of the lazy couch potatoe is definitely not true!
 

Vapinghole

Low-Temp Hempist / JedHI Master
Welcome, @killbill and @psycro!

And welcome to vaporization, killbill! I'm confident once you find your groove you'll feel healthier and less impacted.

I dig hearing how others combine vaporizing and athletics. Vaping pre-workout certainly motivates me, that's for sure.

Ran a 15km race this morning--the obligatory St. Patty's Day romp. Vaped myself good and proper before the start and just finished my after-shower, after-breakfast, pre-stretching vape sesh.

Cheers, athletes!
 

His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
Ran my annual 15k race Saturday/Yesterday. I've run this particular race every year for well over a decade. Got there way earlier than usual for some additional prep.

Sitting in my car I ate my usual banana and 2 slices of white bread. This year I added a new sequence.....while sitting in my car, people watching, and drinking Powerade.... I natively hit up my :mflb:cupping it in my one hand with the windows open, people passing next to my open window with all types of 'real' security going back and forth. My guess is the increase in security was due to the Boston marathon horror. When I felt like the MFLB had sufficiently done it's magic :smug: I put on my head phones, exited the vehicle and warmed up. The free, all you can drink ice cold beer at the end of the race, as always, was the icing on the cake. BUT there is no doubt that this year the MFLB was the cake itself and will be again next year.
 

Chill Dude

Well-Known Member
Gearing up for an active racing season. Two hilly half marathons and three triathlons in addition to a couple outlier trail races.

Anyone else training for a race or two?

San Diego Rock n Roll Half Marathon end of May. After that I'll train for the California International Marathon in Sacramento and try to qualify for the Boston Marathon.

Yeah, those hilly courses are a challenge to keep pace.. The San Diego R & R Half is actually pretty flat and fast. A good one to shoot for a PR...

On another note, I noticed you pre ordered a Pax 2... So did I, but haven't received shipping info yet..Has your Pax 2 arrived yet!! I need it for training LOL!!
 

His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
No races on my itinerary since I did the 15k Gate River Run March 14th. I'm running my favorite 7.2 mile course this morning in a few. Goes past a few orchards, the river, etc. First I gotta have my usual morning run breakfast of orange powerade, a banana and slice of white bread and then I gotta vape up and head out. It's beautiful here this morning. 61, sunny and breezy.

I don't know if we use the same terms but ....I'm gonna be doing garbage miles this morning and Cadillac the run. In other words .... I'm running for joy and comfort.

I applaud you more PR oriented folks!
 

BSki

Member
I am a former bodybuilder and Ironman who currently does Crossfit and occasional races, mostly Ragnar 12 man team stuff for fun.

Being new to Vaping (medicating in general) I am looking forward to a nice medicated 10k for my first Ragnar leg this weekend for So Cal. It should work well for reducing and limiting inflammation. I'll see how my legs feel come Sunday.
 

Vapinghole

Low-Temp Hempist / JedHI Master
Welcome, @BSki!

All the best to you as you incorporate vaping into your fitness.

I just love a nice low-temp session before a run and then, while recovering after the run, a heavier higher-temp session. Great for a long post-run stretch.

Cheers!
 

BSki

Member
Completed Ragnar So Cal this weekend. My sixth Ragnar, but my first being medicated. Going out on a 2am leg after a session was amazing. I also really believe it helps with recovery and prevents inflammation after the run. Plus I don't feel the pain ;)

Sunday I felt good enough for a 6 mile trail run (medicated) chased with beer and bbq. Good stuff for sure.
 

Vapinghole

Low-Temp Hempist / JedHI Master
Completed Ragnar So Cal this weekend. My sixth Ragnar, but my first being medicated. Going out on a 2am leg after a session was amazing. I also really believe it helps with recovery and prevents inflammation after the run. Plus I don't feel the pain ;)

Sunday I felt good enough for a 6 mile trail run (medicated) chased with beer and bbq. Good stuff for sure.

Nice work! You and I would get along quite well during a lengthy relay. I'm doing Hood to Coast again this year-- my fourth time. I love the early am runs.
 

psycro

Hippo Lungz
My ultimate regeneration medicine: A post-workout ABV sandwich with organic peanut butter (100percent peanuts) and rice cakes. Very good source of amino acids and omega 3 plus it puts me down to sleep for a good 8hours, sometimes waking up with red eyes the nexst morning, but feeling sublime :)
 

lwien

Well-Known Member
The stereotype of the lazy couch potatoe is definitely not true!

I don't know if I agree with that. While there are many here who say that they love to get high before a workout, they and you may very well be the exceptions. I know for me, the LAST thing I want to do is exert myself physically after getting buzzed and for most of the people I know, I'm not the exception.
 

His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
My ultimate regeneration medicine: A post-workout ABV sandwich with organic peanut butter (100percent peanuts) and rice cakes. Very good source of amino acids and omega 3 plus it puts me down to sleep for a good 8hours, sometimes waking up with red eyes the nexst morning, but feeling sublime :)

Post workout sleep for 8 hours....that reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask.....

@lwien Count me as the exception. I get baked before most of my runs and strength training - but - I'm listening to work out music while this goes on so I don't let the high couch lock me. If anything the combination of the music and high turn my physicality into something energizing and introspective.

Do you ever set out to deliberately run yourself into the ground? Not training for a race or anything...just testing your endurance or tiring yourself out. Although I'm partial to running for the sheer joy of it (which means I'm in it for the runner's high and rarely do I train for time PRs anymore) I will occasionally set out to do a long run that takes me out of commission for the day or night. These are long runs at a 70% to 80% heart rate and distance is the goal not speed. I have some neighborhood loops I can run that will take me past my development every 30 minutes so when I've seen the wall, but not hit it, I can just go home. Sometimes I do this to mentally work/meditate on a personal or professional problem or simply to go long and sleep it off knowing I have nothing pressing for the time after the run. The wife will ask me what my run will consist of and when I say 'going long with no set time or distance' she knows this means when I get home I will stretch, re-hydrate, eat, take ibuprofen, and vape and then I'm going to bed for upwards of 4 hours. I will also do this when I have nothing to do to eliminate potential boredom for the day/night.
 

Hippie Dickie

The Herbal Cube
Manufacturer
i definitely can't get buzzed before aerobics on the NordicTrack ... time stands still and the thirty minutes turns into what seems like 30 hours of effort. For the Bowflex however, that's a different story ... a good buzz lets me feel my muscles and the repetitions seem more better ... and my mind breaks loose between sets and different perspectives and approaches to the "problem of the day" pop up.
 

His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
@lwien - Do you always run the same route? That would make be crazy....

Ok - Now I have more questions aside from what I asked above....my original
Do you ever set out to deliberately run yourself into the ground?

And if you're a runner...what equipment do you use and depend on? Aside from my Brooks Adrenaline sneaks (tried various sneaks but always come back to the Adrenalines) and moisture wicking socks...

- 15 year old MP3 player (learned that keeping it in a plastic baggy high up on the arm in a holder will keep it dry and everlasting after killing them every 2 months)
- GPS Watch - Forerunner 110 - This way I can take off without a set course and let the watch tell me how far, how long and how fast.
- I use body glide on my feet/toes to eliminate chafe because my pinky toe likes to hide a little under the adjacent toe

Anyone using compression gear...copper or otherwise? I've never bothered but I hear good things.
 

lwien

Well-Known Member
I run either at the local high school track or around the perimeter of the local golf coarse or through a park that's across the street from where I live. I stay off of cement sidewalks though. Too hard on my aging knees. Asphalt isn't too bad though.

In regards to equipment, I've been running in Mizuno's for over a decade. I have weird feet in that I have a pretty big bunion on one of them and have pretty narrow heels. Mizuno's are the only shoes that fits me right being that they have a really roomy toe box and narrow heels, especially the Enigma which is also their most cushioned shoe while at the same time being very stable.

Sock wise, I'm wearing Feetures and they last forever. Have had the same socks for over 8 years and they are as good as new. Comes with a lifetime warranty too. Super comfortable and they stay dry. Have a few Balega's too which are a bit softer but I don't think they'll wear as well.

Running shorts are Nike and I find it's the the only shorts that have an inner lining that doesn't cause any groin discomfort like chaffing and rashes and shit.

Tops are just your plain old 100% cotton t-shirts being that I've got over a hundred of them comped to me by various consumer electronics manufactures and radio stations when I used to be in the bizz years ago. They retain sweat though so if I was ever going to purchase again, it wouldn't be cotton.

Hat is from a company called Headsweats. Best hat I've ever had.

Heart rate monitor/watch is a Polar. Been using them for over 20 years now.

Never had any need for Body Glide. Never used compression gear.
 
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His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
In regards to equipment, I've been running in Mizuno's for over a decade. I have weird feet in that I have a pretty big bunion on one of them and have pretty narrow heels. Mizuno's are the only shoes that fits me right being that they have a really roomy toe box and narrow heels, especially the Enigma which is also their most cushioned shoe while at the same time being very stable.

Running shorts are Nike and I find it's the the only shorts that have an inner lining that doesn't cause any groin discomfort like chaffing and rashes and shit.

THANKS lwein!! I really appreciate how you answered the questions. I posed them to see what others are doing/using because if there is anything I've learned from this site...just because I've been doing something a long time (like MJ use) it doesn't mean I don't have a bunch to learn. I'll look into the Mizuno Enigmas you mentioned since we have a similar foot configuration. Every few years I go to a local running store where they 'fit you', watch you run, etc. to see what's new and I've tried different shoes but.... the shoes where the toe points up more than the Adenalines cause my middle toe to scream after the first 45 minutes or so. I tried the Mizuno Wave Inspire 7's years ago and although they felt good at the store, even after running in them for 5 minutes before purchase, my first real run with them caused the middle toe burn/metatarsalgia to get really bad. I'm always looking for a good support/stability shoe, that is light and bouncy/cushioned well. The 'light' part seems to be the hard part since most stability shoes run heavy for me.
 

lwien

Well-Known Member
THANKS lwein!! I really appreciate how you answered the questions. I posed them to see what others are doing/using because if there is anything I've learned from this site...just because I've been doing something a long time (like MJ use) it doesn't mean I don't have a bunch to learn. I'll look into the Mizuno Enigmas you mentioned since we have a similar foot configuration. Every few years I go to a local running store where they 'fit you', watch you run, etc. to see what's new and I've tried different shoes but.... the shoes where the toe points up more than the Adenalines cause my middle toe to scream after the first 45 minutes or so. I tried the Mizuno Wave Inspire 7's years ago and although they felt good at the store, even after running in them for 5 minutes before purchase, my first real run with them caused the middle toe burn/metatarsalgia to get really bad. I'm always looking for a good support/stability shoe, that is light and bouncy/cushioned well. The 'light' part seems to be the hard part since most stability shoes run heavy for me.

Check out specifically the Enigma's.

Regarding running stores analyzing your gate, in my opinion, the absolute MOST important aspect of a shoe is how well it fits your foot. The whole idea of motion control based upon how much one does or does not pronate I think is wayyyyy overrated.

The running shoe industry swings back and forth. One year, it's hyping minimalist shoes and the next year, they're hyping cushioning. A bit bipolar if you ask me.

For me, not only does the Enigma fit great, but it combines cushioning with stability which most shoes don't do. It's usually an either/or situation. But...........if the Enigma doesn't fit your foot well, it would be the worst choice.

I'm 71 years old so I need some extra cushion to protect my aging knees but I'm also flat footed and weigh in excess of 190lbs so I also need some stability.

Check 'em out.

Edit: A few interesting reads on this issue:

http://runblogger.com/2010/07/pronation-control-paradgim-is-starting.html

http://www.udel.edu/PT/PT Clinical ...14/November/Knapik JOSPT Injury reduction.pdf

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a484214.pdf
 
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His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
Check out specifically the Enigma's.

Regarding running stores analyzing your gate, in my opinion, the absolute MOST important aspect of a shoe is how well it fits your foot.
For me, not only does the Enigma fit great, but it combines cushioning with stability which most shoes don't do. It's usually an either/or situation. But...........if the Enigma doesn't fit your foot well, it would be the worst choice.

http://runblogger.com/2010/07/pronation-control-paradgim-is-starting.html

http://www.udel.edu/PT/PT Clinical Services/journalclub/sojc/13-14/November/Knapik JOSPT Injury reduction.pdf

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a484214.pdf

Interesting stuff! 'this study showed that neutral runners did better in stability shoes, and pronated runners did better in neutral shoes. Try to make sense of that one…'

My 2 Cents - Those prescribed a stability shoe or motion control shoe are already predisposed to injury so a higher rate of injury may already be in the cards. I'm also a believer that a shoe can cause your natural gait to change and that, on it's own, can cause injury. Another possibility is that your foot/gait can become accustomed to a particular shoe causing the muscles/cartilage/gait to develop strengths and weaknesses around them. When you switch to another shoe the change itself causes problems.

It is interesting that all the studies show no real benefit to being given a 'shoe prescription'. I'm not sure I agree with the premise that there is no benefit since the Adrenaline's kept me injury free for years but other stability shoes messed me up good....so it may not be the prescription for a type of shoe is wrong but that the shoe itself was the issue even though the prescription was correct. I started off running in neutral type shoes and then went to a runner's store for a recommendation when I started having minor injuries. Enter the Brook's Adrenalines and it was bye-bye to the injuries until I got bored with them and decided to look for another shoe.

All of the above is not going to stop me from looking into those Enigmas though :tup:
 

lwien

Well-Known Member
Another possibility is that your foot/gait can become accustomed to a particular shoe causing the muscles/cartilage/gait to develop strengths and weaknesses around them. When you switch to another shoe the change itself causes problems.

Yup, there was another study, don't remember which one, but it was discussing going from a cushioned shoe to a minimalist shoe or visa versa and they said that their study showed that your body adapts, over time to the running surface that one is running on and that switching shoes too quickly can cause issues.

It's one of the reasons why anytime I get a new pair, even if it's the same model, I'll break them in gradually by alternating between my old pair and my new pair every time I run for about a month before I totally stop using the old ones.

Enter the Brook's Adrenalines and it was bye-bye to the injuries until I got bored with them and decided to look for another shoe.

All of the above is not going to stop me from looking into those Enigmas though :tup:

While I really love my Enigmas being that they have kept me injury free for years, I really believe in the old adage, especially with running shoes of............If it's not broken, don't fix it. If you really like the Adrenalines (most popular shoe in the Brooks line-up) and you've been running in them injury free, my suggestion is to stick with them although I do understand wanting to try something new. I think it's called, R-SAS (running shoe acquisition syndrome)

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