Burn
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yeah, i only tried it because the seam came loose at the top so i couldnt use it anymore. here are some pics...
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yeah, i only tried it because the seam came loose at the top so i couldnt use it anymore. here are some pics...
zor
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I received my blemished SSV on Friday and had the weekend to put it through its paces and, more importantly, to learn how to use the device properly. Overall, I'm quite happy with the device but there have been a few issues so far:
1) I ordered the Flavor Oil Kit and replaced the heat shield with the one provided with the Oil Kit. In doing so I found the neck of the new heat shield to be wider than that of the one the unit shipped with, trying to get to the metal neck of the ceramic heater was close to impossible but I eventually was able to bend some of the metal slats but it still feels flimsy. This is particularly annoying with the very willful whip tubing, it swivels along its axis relatively easily until I mess with the slats again and form a tighter seal, but in the short time I've been using the SSV it has loosened quite quickly with use.
2) I was getting very mediocre vapage from the SSV, pics below show the ABV from a volcano bag at 6 and all I could get from my SSV cranked to the max. Hard to see but the ABV from the SSV was still quite green even after mixing it up with the pick, so I suspected insufficient heat was provided
This was with the Oil Kit heat shield and nail setup. I tried to replace the original heat shield and toy with the ceramic heater height but I just couldn't get it back on! I tried until I felt metal and glass grinding after which I immediately stopped. This is what it looks like now:
I simply can't get the original heat shield back on and that's rather annoying.
All that said, I spent most of sat and sun adjusting the oil kit heat shield and I'm in a better place than I was as far as efficiency goes; I now get a nice uniform brown after a session with the SSV. Shortly after achieving this...
3)...I must have coughed into the mouthpiece as some herb scattered and landed near the heating element and combusted. Foul, rank smoke invaded the unit and I was able to clean everything except the tubing, the burnt flavor appears here to stay. Not a big deal, I can get quality medical grade tubing easily, but this was an important lesson learned.
I intend to contact 7thFloor re: the original heatshield not fitting but first wanted to ask for any help here. I'm overall quite happy with the device, it dabs really well and I enjoyed the flavor I got before fouling it up with smoke
1) I ordered the Flavor Oil Kit and replaced the heat shield with the one provided with the Oil Kit. In doing so I found the neck of the new heat shield to be wider than that of the one the unit shipped with, trying to get to the metal neck of the ceramic heater was close to impossible but I eventually was able to bend some of the metal slats but it still feels flimsy. This is particularly annoying with the very willful whip tubing, it swivels along its axis relatively easily until I mess with the slats again and form a tighter seal, but in the short time I've been using the SSV it has loosened quite quickly with use.
2) I was getting very mediocre vapage from the SSV, pics below show the ABV from a volcano bag at 6 and all I could get from my SSV cranked to the max. Hard to see but the ABV from the SSV was still quite green even after mixing it up with the pick, so I suspected insufficient heat was provided
This was with the Oil Kit heat shield and nail setup. I tried to replace the original heat shield and toy with the ceramic heater height but I just couldn't get it back on! I tried until I felt metal and glass grinding after which I immediately stopped. This is what it looks like now:
I simply can't get the original heat shield back on and that's rather annoying.
All that said, I spent most of sat and sun adjusting the oil kit heat shield and I'm in a better place than I was as far as efficiency goes; I now get a nice uniform brown after a session with the SSV. Shortly after achieving this...
3)...I must have coughed into the mouthpiece as some herb scattered and landed near the heating element and combusted. Foul, rank smoke invaded the unit and I was able to clean everything except the tubing, the burnt flavor appears here to stay. Not a big deal, I can get quality medical grade tubing easily, but this was an important lesson learned.
I intend to contact 7thFloor re: the original heatshield not fitting but first wanted to ask for any help here. I'm overall quite happy with the device, it dabs really well and I enjoyed the flavor I got before fouling it up with smoke
grokit
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Are there shims in there or is it the newer clamp style? Because it sounds like it has too many shims for the oil kit heater cover, while the regular vaping heater cover is a bit bigger and needs them. If it's the clamp system I don't have experience with this, but I think you can adjust/bend it for different-sized covers.
zor
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No shims that I could see...it's a cylindrical metal tube with vertical slots cut out reularly and the remaining metal bands/slats are kinked in the middle so they can bend outwards when the cylinder is squeezed, thereby creating more points of contact. I think it's the clamp style but I can't see to find any pictures online...
I can tell you that it is NOT this, the cylinder here is smooth and uniform
I can tell you that it is NOT this, the cylinder here is smooth and uniform
Tweak
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I believe most use .625". With my first standard wand, a .625" was too small.
Check the pocket of the bag they shipped with the SSV, it may contain your screens.
emoji
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Yikes, I've been trying for the last 20 minutes to get a screen in the wand. I am using a ground glass wand that doesn't seem to have the big bubble I see on photos of the other models. How do you get the screen to stay? Where is it supposed to rest?
E: Ok, I managed to get it to stick right about where the ground part ends, is that appropriate?
Pretty awesome so far
Thanks to everyone in this thread for providing valuable feedback, beats the pants off my MFLB!
E: Ok, I managed to get it to stick right about where the ground part ends, is that appropriate?
Pretty awesome so far
Thanks to everyone in this thread for providing valuable feedback, beats the pants off my MFLB!
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TeeJay1952
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Yikes, I've been trying for the last 20 minutes to get a screen in the wand. I am using a ground glass wand that doesn't seem to have the big bubble I see on photos of the other models. How do you get the screen to stay? Where is it supposed to rest?
E: Ok, I managed to get it to stick right about where the ground part ends, is that appropriate?
Pretty awesome so far
A Rite of Passage! Gets easier each time. Now you will know when you are having a good day.
zor
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I got some feedback from 7thFloor customer service, pointed out two prongs to bend as opposed to all of them (which is what I had done). Fiddled around a bit, then got my original heat cover back on with a little more elbow grease than I originally felt comfortable with.
WOW there's a HUGE difference now with the original cover vs the oil kit cover. Using the same heat settings that I have been using with the oil kit cover I actually got some charred results, which is fine as that gives me a ceiling temperature to never go above. The session I had last night was exquisite
Those of you with the oil kit, do you keep the nail on when you want to vape herbs? Do you switch covers entirely? I'm afraid I'm going to break my cover at some point (clumsy oaf over here) if I keep switching back and forth but the quality of herb vaporization with the original cover vs the oil kit is night and day; that said, I have not tried vaping herb without the nail, I figured it would be easier to keep it on and it would just conduct the heat it absorbs from the filament. More things to try!
All said and done, I'm very, very happy with this guy!
WOW there's a HUGE difference now with the original cover vs the oil kit cover. Using the same heat settings that I have been using with the oil kit cover I actually got some charred results, which is fine as that gives me a ceiling temperature to never go above. The session I had last night was exquisite
Those of you with the oil kit, do you keep the nail on when you want to vape herbs? Do you switch covers entirely? I'm afraid I'm going to break my cover at some point (clumsy oaf over here) if I keep switching back and forth but the quality of herb vaporization with the original cover vs the oil kit is night and day; that said, I have not tried vaping herb without the nail, I figured it would be easier to keep it on and it would just conduct the heat it absorbs from the filament. More things to try!
All said and done, I'm very, very happy with this guy!
Tweak
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I don't own the oil kit, but have all three different HC. I quit switching them because of your exact reasoning, didn't want to break one and switching between them meant a different sweet spot on my dial.
It's also the reason I don't own the oil kit, I'd rather dedicate a DBV/SSV to the task of being Oil kit only.
emoji
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Well after a few sessions I am thinking that the GG might not be ideal for me, or that I still have a lot to grasp. I think I have a tendency for under-filling, resulting in the top most part getting cooked, and only getting a few hits off.
My unit came with the GG. I am thinking that I'll pick up a regular HC at least, but I am torn about which whip to pick up. AFAIK there's really 3 options, the SSV regular, VB regular, VB Mini.
Has anyone used all of these? Is there a huge size difference between them? I am conflicted if I should get the VB regular style, since it's between the two others, or just get the standard and the mini.
Also after reading about all of the screen issues with the mini, etc. I am looking for any advice regarding whether or not I should use 'basket screens' and where those may be purchased, or if there's alternative methods.
I've been more or less smoke free for about 2 months now, finding the transition pretty easy really. I originally just had the MFLB which is cool because it conserves so well and is very quick, but even with the PA and FG I found it too fiddly, and prone to cause anxiety. It was just too much work to get a large, but reliable hit without dancing with combustion or a coughing fit.
Do people really just leave their GG in hands-free mode? I would imagine that just leaving it in would torch the top of your bowl pretty easily? I am super paranoid about combustion coming from the MFLB.
Anyways I am definitely still in the learning curve, but I am really looking for any advice that will help me with using the GG, or what other style I should purchase. Are there 'screen mods' for the GG that will give me a smaller bowl?
Thanks everyone!
My unit came with the GG. I am thinking that I'll pick up a regular HC at least, but I am torn about which whip to pick up. AFAIK there's really 3 options, the SSV regular, VB regular, VB Mini.
Has anyone used all of these? Is there a huge size difference between them? I am conflicted if I should get the VB regular style, since it's between the two others, or just get the standard and the mini.
Also after reading about all of the screen issues with the mini, etc. I am looking for any advice regarding whether or not I should use 'basket screens' and where those may be purchased, or if there's alternative methods.
I've been more or less smoke free for about 2 months now, finding the transition pretty easy really. I originally just had the MFLB which is cool because it conserves so well and is very quick, but even with the PA and FG I found it too fiddly, and prone to cause anxiety. It was just too much work to get a large, but reliable hit without dancing with combustion or a coughing fit.
Do people really just leave their GG in hands-free mode? I would imagine that just leaving it in would torch the top of your bowl pretty easily? I am super paranoid about combustion coming from the MFLB.
Anyways I am definitely still in the learning curve, but I am really looking for any advice that will help me with using the GG, or what other style I should purchase. Are there 'screen mods' for the GG that will give me a smaller bowl?
Thanks everyone!
chimpybits
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There is also the Shorty Standard Glass Wand for smaller loads. However, afaik no one here at fc has tried it.
Tweak
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AFIAK, the VB and the SSV regulars are about the same size. The mini is much smaller. Using my EQ screen mod, I find the regular SSV wand offers better air-flow than the VB mini, but the VB mini will work on crumbs if that is what you are after.
For the VB mini, you can order screens from epicvape (sorry, don't see them in stock right now) or from Underdog. Or make them yourself with a socket and a dowel rod.
I'm sure the EQ screen will fit, but it won't stay unless there is a bit of resin to hold it. So after one or two sessions, you should be good.
Tweak
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Yeah I bought it before owning the SSV, used it in my EQ. I'd say it holds just as much if not more that the standard.
Mini vs standard:
Mini vs E-nano stem
GG wand vs size of my hand, to compare vs mini wand:
The mini is much smaller than either GG or standard.
zor
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Out of curiosity, what is that screen at the end of the wand? Custom made? I'd like to fashion something similar as I sometimes get too ambitious and pull too strongly and have to fight off a cough, and some of my newbie friends also have very sensitive throats/lungs....after accidentally puffing into the mouthpiece and scattering herb all over the heat element, well, I don;t want a repeat of that!
hoptimum
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Yikes, I've been trying for the last 20 minutes to get a screen in the wand. I am using a ground glass wand that doesn't seem to have the big bubble I see on photos of the other models. How do you get the screen to stay? Where is it supposed to rest?
E: Ok, I managed to get it to stick right about where the ground part ends, is that appropriate?
Pretty awesome so far
having two chopsticks working either end simultaneously works for me
Two options with the GG: 1) simply stir between hits to expose more of your herb to the heating element. 2) or use an EQ elbow screen (basket) to place your herb even closer to the heating element. With the latter method, turn the heat down, otherwise it will get too hot too fast.
Although the GG is advertised as hands free, I don't use it that way. I always have one hand on the wand, otherwise there's a pretty good chance that wand will come flying out of the heater cover, causing more frustration and sorrow.
I'd suggest you work with the GG as long as you have it. You'll probably need more than a few sessions to find your sweet spot. You can make it work with a little practice. Because if you go with the Standard wand or VB, you're going to need to buy (and swap in) the Standard heater cover as well. Basket screens won't fit in the mini, unless you modify them, a la @Tweak
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Tweak
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Thank you. I'm so glad you are enjoying it as much as I do. Have you ordered some of the pre-made ones from e-bay, they look nice but are $1 a screen
? Maybe we should get into the business, 
I'm actually using one in my Solo now too, replaced the EQ screen elbow I was using. Punched out the glass screen in my bent stem and one of these diy dome screen fits perfectly. Perfect size Solo load with very little resistance. I actually enjoy a Solo session now, them PVHES stems let in too much air.
Wanted to share my latest video with you guys, this can be accomplished with using the SSV unit itself but is a bit awkward sitting it back down, lol. JoDa sells these GonGs for only $28 (all clear), well worth every penny IMO:
WaveRider4Life
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I love my SSV and have been using one for about 4 years now. As much as I love this vape I have a concern with the company and their business ethics. I take pride in my vape and keep it as clean as possible. I love my current setup (glass and color combos). I've started noticing a trend last year that pretty much all my orders have came back to me with some type of error. Granted I know they don't guarantee colors of wands and heater covers but recently I purchased an aroma top and selected the black top. What I received was just a clear basic model. Obviously color does not change function but I would like to have a complete matching set up with the SSV parts that "I" selected and not just what they chose to give me. Please 7th Floor remember the consumers and treat us with respect. Otherwise I will steer my friends toward other companies with proven customer satisfaction records.
hoptimum
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Which other company offers the combination of function and value that 7th Floor does?
WaveRider4Life
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Storz and Bickel without a doubt is #1 in customer service and all of their units perform very well!