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rodders83

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For the good! My greedy friends sold me down the river, I went for the first time in ten years due to depression without smoke, A full month and then i cracked one night and combusted i normally vape in my herbo. Well oh my god the first was great even though it tasted like poo, Fluffy mellow warm fuzzy high. By the third i went to bed but freaked out with bad thoughts and was shaky and my lungs felt burnt and my teeth stained for 2-3 days :(

It took 3 days to recover and feel better, But i felt anxious and went back to my vape even though it scared me due to thew shaky experience. My tolrance hit rock bottom and i did not even grind it i threw in a lump and sucked invisable vapor for ten minutes until the outside browned. I use my Herborizer at MAX 230c and it was ok. Sort of enjoyed it no real mild visual sensations like before with the vape or no high just pure sleepy goodness.


But now i want more im not going back to vaping bowls of THC. What i am after is CBD/CBN am i on the right track? I am going to grow my own strain tailored to what i want so 100% Indica with the highest CBD and 230c to get all the CBN CBD and not much of a "high". But when harvest time comes, Should i also let it go until the trichomes turn really really amber so the THC degrades? I think this is what i am going to do i just wanted to final check with people that i am doing everything right apart from this "de-carb wich is too much hassle" i would rather le tit degrade during harvest to CBD.


This will put me on my butt and give me the anti-anxiety sleepy couchlock effect i want without any mild visual effects i normally get with vapes? Thanks guys!
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I'm having a hard time understanding your questions. I heard one thing, that combustion was a bad experience.

We are not suppose to make comments regarding growing our fav plant.
Try looking here.
Need a good recommendation on a CBD stream very low THC

Discussion in 'Vaporizables'

I think they meant strain above. There is a lot of good info in the vaporizable thread.



Vape on friends.;):leaf::peace:
 
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rodders83

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Hey sorry i did not know, I guess i did not make it clear enough either i still feel a little odd to be honest after the break. Basically i dont know what happened but i felt sick and now i do not want high doses of THC. I just want more couchlock CBD and CBN. But i have no experience of them to be honest.

I vape at a high temp, And if i understand correctly this would be the way to go for more CBD and CBN as long as i use the correct strain. I just find that sometimes it can be a little weird when you get a dose of THC out of the vape. It feels more heady and high for me than combustion.

And i do not like that, Can you still get the classic couchlock and munchies from CBD and CBN?
 

Snappo

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Hey sorry i did not know, I guess i did not make it clear enough either i still feel a little odd to be honest after the break. Basically i dont know what happened but i felt sick and now i do not want high doses of THC. I just want more couchlock CBD and CBN. But i have no experience of them to be honest.

I vape at a high temp, And if i understand correctly this would be the way to go for more CBD and CBN as long as i use the correct strain. I just find that sometimes it can be a little weird when you get a dose of THC out of the vape. It feels more heady and high for me than combustion.

And i do not like that, Can you still get the classic couchlock and munchies from CBD and CBN?
High CBD to THC ratio strains -
http://www.leafscience.com/2014/10/15/highest-cbd-strains/
http://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/whats-the-deal-with-these-high-cbd-strains
 

Enchantre

Oil Painter
A high THC Indica with genetics that produce sleepy couchlock will knock you out. Temp is only going to slightly weight your vapor towards one end or the other. There is no magic spot where the THC is turned off and the CBD is turned on.

They are always there.

Leafly and Weedmaps are your friends. Really.
 

syrupy

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It sounds like
Hey sorry i did not know, I guess i did not make it clear enough either i still feel a little odd to be honest after the break. Basically i dont know what happened but i felt sick and now i do not want high doses of THC. I just want more couchlock CBD and CBN. But i have no experience of them to be honest.

I vape at a high temp, And if i understand correctly this would be the way to go for more CBD and CBN as long as i use the correct strain. I just find that sometimes it can be a little weird when you get a dose of THC out of the vape. It feels more heady and high for me than combustion.

And i do not like that, Can you still get the classic couchlock and munchies from CBD and CBN?

My guess, from experience, is that part of the fuzzy couchlock feeling is coming from a reaction to toxic parts of combustion. When I started vaping, it didn't feel as physical, because my body wasn't freaking out from carbon monoxide. I had to switch to heavier indcas like gdp for a similar effect. Eventually my body and mind got used to vaping and things evened out on our own.

Instead of CBN or CBD, I would recommend TBR. As in t-break. Your thoughts come across a little scattered, and it's not clear if you have experience with CBN or CBD or why you are focusing on that. Those substances have specific uses. What use are you looking for?
 

rodders83

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Relaxation and sleeping aid basically. I do not like getting high the only part of THC i think i like is the munchies or giggles? Everything else seems to be either CBD/CBN or toxic carcingen effects maybe... Where i live we have no dispensary so you cannot try out strains you basically get what you are given and that is it.

I had a big T-Break and it helps for sure. Tons of material is saved and i am getting more and better sleep after returning to vaping last night. But i find myself being very groggy for an entire day too which is another reason i think CBD/CBN might be useful for me in countering this. I do not know really because to get any kind of testing done it requires a weekened in Amsterdam. Money i do not have sadly.

:(
 

syrupy

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Not sure cannabis is going to be the bet medicine for you. Without a dispensary, locating the correct strains will be very difficult. I have found vaping hops to be good for relaxation without the fuzziness. Insomnia is a tricky one. For me when it's bad, a heavy indica at high temps is all that works. But the side effect is feeling fuzzy.

I don't know of any strain that gives no head high, some giggles, light muchies, and couchlock. But if you find it, let me know.
 

rodders83

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From smoking too much weed? How can that be?

Maybe a mixture of tobacco withdrawal and a bug going around? It has been pretty cold here i could of took a whitey also, Before this i smoked everyday maybe 7 a day packed. And then i suddenly just stopped everything. Im pointing the blame still at a high THC dose though due to the racing thoughts. And i know now after going back to vaping this last few days my tolerance is rock bottom. Im getting wasted now from a pinch for a good 6+ hours.


Also Did you ever get to try a high cbd indica Syrupy? It seems none exist :( I did some searching last night i found Dinamen hash plant but it seems everyone has bred out the CBD from Indica sigh because it is only recently people put value on CBD and i now know how to get CBN through the amber coloring but still cant get CBD Indica.

Thats such a sad story the article thinks somewhere out there in the landrace regions of Morocco and Pakistan might still exist wild high cbd indica landraces. But no one is putting value on them due to the non recreational effect of cbd so all seedbanks are probably not even worth trying unless they specialize in CBD but even CBD crew have to use crosses.
 
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syrupy

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I'm not sure what you mean by "CBD Indica". If you get a CBD strain, it won't have much THC, and I believe CBD inhibits THC anyway. Can't you find CBD oil anywhere? I've tried it but it's not the best fit for me.


From your posts, it sounds like there are some other things going on. It doesn't feel to me like you just need to fine tune a strain. Your posts read all over the place to me, like you're still racing. And when I see that, I'm obliged to recommend a (longer) t-break. Cannabis can be great medicine, but when the waters are already murky, it can be less than helpful.


edit: I did have one thought that may help. Just remembered I knew someone who mixed high thc indica with cbd-heavy strains like Harly. He said the CBD neutralized the head high of the indicas. I thought it was a waste of good indica, but he may have been trying to accomplish something like you are talking about.
 

rodders83

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Yes i also considered this just mixing in CBD strain with landrace Indica. I dont consider it a waste per say. If someone wants to achieve a mild high but very powerful on the sedative/painkilling side they have no other real choice because they are all mixed in with sativa?


6+ hours from vapor?

I find this just as odd as taking 3 days to recover from a vape high. Very strange....

In all my decades of using cannabis, this is the very first time that I've heard of these kinds of reactions.

Ive used it for decades also and never had this reaction apart from once. And i will edit to make it more clear. Ive had my t-break and my tolerance is like a newbie. And i know people who feel groggy and wasted for 6 hours who do not smoke so thats nothing strange at all it is normal.

What is not normal to me is using tobbaco and weed for the first time in 45 days and feeling so sick and it lasting so long. You said it was from vaping but you mis-read that My stomach just felt awful and i felt a little shaky from tobacco and weed. Thats gone now and i wont ever go back to tobacco but i think it was a mixture of this and too much THC (weird panic feeling) because i reset my tolerance. Following?

So this is why i want Indica (hate Sativa buzz or buzzing) but with CBD/less THC and Indica effects as its a healer and enjoyable for me compared to a buzzy or racey Sativa. So hopefully this clears up the confusion.
 
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Skyscraper

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I think you're last post clarified a lot, I get the impression English is possibly not your first language and that has led to some confusion?

I get you. One hit of weed gave a good buzz. You smoked more and took too much for your tolerance, and if you inhaled tobacco smoke deeply it will make you nauseous and have a bad feeling. Nicotine is a poison after all. Last time I smoked a cigarette it made me sick. Smoking a bowl of weed makes my stomach feel weird sometimes, only a good hit of greens is bearable really. After that I'm more inclined to pass.
 
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