Discontinued The Okin by D.M. Pipes

I'm super hyped for my fellow canadian to start his manufacturing! I was down for the 200$ range but the fact he lowered it makes it even the better! and love the local support i can receive (sorta like with my solo). I'm have just one concern though @Dan Morrison , what is the health safety of inhaling the charcoal vapors without a typical water path like in a hookah? are there any dangers like butane? (read that some members report headaches from some extended butane sessions with the lotus and others)

tennstrong said:

I'm super hyped for my fellow canadian to start his manufacturing! I was down for the 200$ range but the fact he lowered it makes it even the better! and love the local support i can receive (sorta like with my solo). I'm have just one concern though @Dan Morrison , what is the health safety of inhaling the charcoal vapors without a typical water path like in a hookah? are there any dangers like butane? (read that some members report headaches from some extended butane sessions with the lotus and others)

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Where did you read that mate? I only remember of one member ever mentioning something like that... You can't inhale butane fumes with the Lotus, not to mention that a torch lighter only gives CO2 and water vapor as fumes.
I wonder about charcoal fumes as well though.

You light the charcoal and then put away the lighter before ever inhaling, so butane in a non-issue here. Dan has previously addressed the question about the charcoal in the air path.

natural farmer said:

I wonder about charcoal fumes as well though.

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The post in which Dan talks about this was originally deleted because his account had not yet been approved. I re-posted it as a quote early in this thread. Basically, anyone who insists on complete assurance of 100% freedom from the by-products of combustion probably should not get an Okin. My own position is that while I prefer to avoid combustion, I would tolerate whatever the Okin produces just to enjoy this beautiful work of art. I don't think I'd inhale enough to concern me. I smoked my cannabis for 40 years, so the Okin is hardly likely to make any difference.

pakalolo said:

My own position is that while I prefer to avoid combustion, I would tolerate whatever the Okin produces just to enjoy this beautiful work of art. I don't think I'd inhale enough to concern me. I smoked my cannabis for 40 years, so the Okin is hardly likely to make any difference.

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You said it better than I could lol. I agree 100%.

@pakalolo , I like your thoughts on it.

Being a long-lasting product made from renewable materials and powered by a renewable heat source, the Okin helps inspire a change in mindset. I believe that this change, with an awareness of how we produce and consume products globally, is important to the health of our planet and its inhabitants.

I'm ready, Dan!

Last night I was sitting in my chair looking at all my vapes trying to decide what I was in the mood for. Sadly, what I was in the mood for was the Okin! It was the first time I envisioned using it and it became clear just how different it is. Yet at the same time it is very familiar since it evokes the age old ritual of having a smoke! All these high tech devices make me feel like we are pioneers. Sometimes I just want to sit back and connect with it all old school!

@Dan Morrison

When can we expect to see the final product? Box and all? Anticipation is the worst. Ha!

Madcap79 said:

@Dan Morrison

When can we expect to see the final product? Box and all? Anticipation is the worst. Ha!

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The start of April.

March will be the month for crafting!

I'll be posting all my progress from the shop through March as well.

We are gonna need to start a pre order list of something because I call dibs on one out of the first batch of 100.... And I am a peaceful dude but I would throw down over an Okin.



Edit @friedrich thanks man. Been following this thread since day one I dont know how the hell I missed that.

Puffers said:

We are gonna need to start a pre order list of something because I call dibs on one out of the first batch of 100.... And I am a peaceful dude but I would throw down over an Okin.

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Dude, you missed it, by about a month... http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-okin-by-d-m-pipes.15370/page-12#post-731438

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The post in which Dan talks about this was originally deleted because his account had not yet been approved. I re-posted it as a quote early in this thread. Basically, anyone who insists on complete assurance of 100% freedom from the by-products of combustion probably should not get an Okin. My own position is that while I prefer to avoid combustion, I would tolerate whatever the Okin produces just to enjoy this beautiful work of art. I don't think I'd inhale enough to concern me. I smoked my cannabis for 40 years, so the Okin is hardly likely to make any difference.

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Sorry my searching through this thread must not have brought that up- possibly because it was a deleted post but i dont know. Thanks a ton for the information and support guys, I seriously think this is one of the most positive vape threads out there right now: from helpful information to innovative creation. My pockets are ready though for the okin as soon as he begins the opening pre-orders (I believe when I last messeged Dan he said they were still in prodo, which makes perfect sense according to his previous posts) i'm definitely on train #1. Thank you for telling me that the only additive byproduct is carbon monoxide- I do smoke a bowl with friends on occasion or if my friend is a smoker and we dont have a vape around, so I'm not a purist vapor (hate me verdamper users ). I'm pretty comfortable with the usual byproduct of combustion being minor-ly inhaled as opposed to the mass product inhaled during smoking use. and I think that with friends packing a few okin bowls and going for a nice forest walk will be prime- when normally a blunt is recommended among my group. (okin seems to provide the on demand hit as soon as you pull which is the draw of smoking generally when on a walk, as you don't need to carry a huge vape around like my solo or have to pack and pull hard as hell and teach each person how to use a vape like the pax when the MP gets sticky. and also a great camping vape so you dont need to teach each person how to hit a butane vape)

It seems that all of my Imgur images that are linked throughout this thread are showing as broken. I am not sure why this is, but hopefully it fixes itself soon.

I've been thinking about a more seamless way to load the okin on the go. I like the idea of making a paper tube out of a rolling paper that is the same diameter as the chamber. Fill the tube with smoking material, cap the ends with a little ball of cotton or filter material. You could make a bunch of these and keep them in the case. When its time to reload, just take out the spent paper tube and pop a new tube into the chamber, done.

It may end up being less convenient in the end, but an interesting idea that I will be testing. Saves you from carrying a chamber of herbs and another chamber for your abv.

That does sound like an interesting idea. I like the convenience factor of being able to just pop the spent tube out and put a new one in when you're on the go. Although I'm not sure how well a rolling paper would work for that... I don't know. I'm looking forward to hearing what you come up with!

I've just come up with a twofer idea for the dispensary Js we get, and the Vapman.

Cut the J into the appropriate-sized pieces. Leave in paper. store on end, all together (mental picture: round pan of cinnamon buns), in container (flat bottomed). When needed, squeeze contents into bowl, discard paper.

Could this sort of chamber use that finely ground herb? could it accommodate the paper as well, assuming that isn't gross (is it?)? Thoughts?

@Enchantre , Essentially I think we are on the same page. I don't know how fine the grind is, but so long as it's not very fine or powdery it should work well. If the grind is too fine, however, the airflow will be impeded and it won't work as well.

The diameter would have to fit the internal diameter of the metal chamber, if you wanted to keep the paper on. If the fit is loose, the air will take the easy path, the gap between the outside of the paper and the metal walls of the chamber.

It's likely the fit wont be perfect, so you would be better off just squeezing the material out of the paper into the chamber. This would also help loosen up the packed herbs. A loose pack allows air to flow more freely and evenly through the herbs.

So, If you want to load paper capsules into the okin, you'll be better off making your own I think.

As far as being gross, I don't think so, It shouldnt alter the taste much, if at all. And it may help keep the chamber cleaner over time.

@Dan Morrison, I was thinking about easy loading of this, I remember the video that you had posted earlier of the prototype. I couldn't help thinking about revolutionary war rifles...and what they did to expedite loading. I don't think that you anyone would need to make a capsule to fit into the chamber. But rather a loosely packed tube of paper or cone of paper with a pre measured amount inside, the paper could be ripped at the tip and poured into the chamber.

Sort of like this guy loading his rifle, you could store in your box several pre loaded paper cartridges.

@Japrocketdet , You are exactly right! I don't know why I was hung up on the idea of loading the entire paper cartridge into the okin, the rip and dump method seems way better.

I think you nailed it!

All those paper capsules inside the case would look so awesome as well!

@Dan Morrison is the smell of "herb" very strong when using the Okin? Or does the charcoal kind of mute the smell? Just curious.

ANOKHI said:

@Dan Morrison is the smell of "herb" very strong when using the Okin? Or does the charcoal kind of mute the smell? Just curious.

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This is a true on-demand vape experience, so in that sense, there is no 'leaked' vapor smell when not inhaling during a session. But the vapour itself will be much like other convection style vaporizers, and that which is exhaled will always reflect the smell of the particular herb in the chamber, dependant on potency.

The charcoal does not affect the vapour smell in use.

Also, I have been cleaning the okin stem with a pipecleaner and ethanol, works good!

I think a shotglass of vodka could be used for cleaning over a long period, and then either evaporated to yield your reclaimed material, or perhaps consumed orally as a shot... Just a thought, yet to be tested.

I will have photos up soon of the box making process. I am using African Mahogany for the boxes, a classic.

Dan Morrison said:

I think a shotglass of vodka could be used for cleaning over a long period, and then either evaporated to yield your reclaimed material, or perhaps consumed orally as a shot... Just a thought, yet to be tested.

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I like that idea, I'll take reclaim shots all day lol

Wow this thread got long quick... guess who is interested? This Krazy guy.

IAmKrazy2 said:

Wow this thread got long quick... guess who is interested? This Krazy guy.

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Get on the waiting list!

I am on the waiting list. This vape really interests me. Not only is it a beautiful design, but funtional as well. I can't wait.

Madcap79 said:

Get on the waiting list!

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I attempted from the website but did not see a way to sign up to get on the list. It asks for a usernam

I guess i will have to. Can you point me in the right direction?