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Titan vaporizer

Slow Draw McGraw

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Here's a question, are any of you guys Pax users? If so, do you think the Titan 2 is at all comparable to the Pax? I sold my pax a while ago, but lately have been missing it and considering finding another. I really don't want to dish out over $200 on a vape right now though, so I thought I'd see how the Titan 2 compares, at least in vapor quality, if anything at all... I don't really care much for my Titan 1 and I worry I won't like the Titan 2.

Im ordering a T2 2night. I also own a pax and love its performance. Even milks up my WT with this attachtment I rigged up. So when the T2 comes, it will have alot to live up to. If no one can give you any info you're seeking, I could be of service. It might take a few days tho. I know my buddy @Justpassedu has owned a pax and has a T2 and he might be able to help.
 

Justpassedu

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Im ordering a T2 2night. I also own a pax and love its performance. Even milks up my WT with this attachtment I rigged up. So when the T2 comes, it will have alot to live up to. If no one can give you any info you're seeking, I could be of service. It might take a few days tho. I know my buddy @Justpassedu has owned a pax and has a T2 and he might be able to help.
The Titan 2 works well compared to the pax. Battery life is not as great but it's easy to use and clean and has a usb mini for charging. You will def get nice vapor from the Titan. It needs a good burnoff when you get it as it has a bit of smell. After five sessions it has not bothered me. Also know it's prob not made as well as the pax. I Think of it more as a desposible, I know it can break any time and that's it ,no repair. I already went through one and got it replaced free within the first few weeks but I don't expect that to happen again. They can be had for $30-$40 so it's not the biggest of problems. It's a great back up vape. I prefer Vaping with it at a bit of a higher temp. I usually start at 387deg F and work my way up to 412deg tops . Also they come with a nice little slip on mouth piece to help cool the vapor. Medium to fine grind like I do with most my vapes also . I'll get about 10-15 hits a session usualky sometimes more and what I do is use the end of the lil metal tool it comes with to pack down but not super tight just tap it down . Also mine shuts off at maybe the 6 or 7 minute mark , I guess you can turn it back on but I rarely ever do. I use my other vapes for that .
 
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Sungodv

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Once the plastic/solder taste is on the wane, robot fart somebody said, the Titan-II is a pretty damn nice little portable for under $40. Depending on the amount of material there's a fair amount of expelled vapor and it seems to cook it well without getting overly baked. You get baked...possibly overly. :D From a small amount to a chamber full, it extracts it all. Amazing amount of pulls with only a very small amount.
Hope it's not plastic vapor too. :uhoh: Think there may be a smidge still.:disgust:
Battery life ain't stupendous and you need to use one of the long mouthpiece extenders to keep the temp down.
Little Lucy and I'm getting ready for bed.
Check out the beddit. Great way to peer in to that part of your life you never get to see.:zzz:
 

Pipes

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Accessory Maker
!!!MOD ALERT!!!

Really enjoying the T2 since I got it and endured that initial break in taste. Does take a while to dissipate. IMO, worth the painful effort.
Anyway, I knew that top cap was going to be a little trouble down the road. It loosened up with ware as expected. Not a great design on that part. Got so it was falling off while in vest pocket which was not a good thing.
So, a couple screws and hair elastics solved the issue.

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Used very short (2mm?) course thread screws. Made two pilot holes place right close to the inside partition as not to make holes in the heater core.
Works very well and replaceable.
:science:
 
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Slow Draw McGraw

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!!!MOD ALERT!!!

Really enjoying the T2 since I got it and endured that initial break in taste. Does take a while to dissipate. IMO, worth the painful effort.
Anyway, I knew that top cap was going to be a little trouble down the road. It loosened up with ware as expected. Not a great design on that part. Got so it was falling off while in vest pocket which was not a good thing.
So, a couple screws and hair elastics solved the issue.

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Used very short (2mm?) course thread screws. Made two pilot holes place right close to the inside partition as not to make holes in the heater core.
Works very well and replaceable.
:science:

So, thats where my hair tie went!

My T2 should FINALLY be here today or tomorrow. not excited about Bender farts.....but i hear good things so.....
 
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jambandphan03

in flavor country
I saw the new pax2 and ended up dropping some $ on that instead, but still might get one of these T2's eventually. Its been tough to keep my funds flush, as I am trying to put money into glass blowing gear, and that cost a lot to get going, but in the mean time I have to satisfy some of my VAS :lol:

I'm enjoying all your modding ideas @Pipes and just wanted to sit back for a while and see how people were taking to using the T2. I guess the mouthpiece is the first part to "fail" on this unit. I also think the mouthpiece design needs to be more permanent solution than a pop off, but it is such a low price tag, that I can see how they considered it a bit of a throw away when you break it item. Pipes will probably keep his going even if he has to build a new shell for it LOL. Keep it up with your cool mods!
:tup:
 

LiquidVape

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just got mine today. ran it at max twice empty chamber, followed by a half filled chamber. Got to say, for 40$ this thing is awesome lol. Maybe my smell/taste is not the best, but i dont taste anything to out of the ordinary. perfect as secondary vape for quick session on the go.
 

Pipes

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Good stuff! Totally agree that for the price, can't be beat.
I've settled into 368 degrees and get great taste and still fair clouds.
Find that the auto shut off timer a little too quick though. I power cycle with the main button to turn off and then back on every couple minutes to avoid it going cool when it times out. Not the fastest heat up but holds temp OK.
Noted that it does have a hard time in cold weather. Which is somewhat expected. A good puff will set it back 10 degrees when below freezing out. But who cares now that spring is here...
:clap:
 

Slow Draw McGraw

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Good stuff! Totally agree that for the price, can't be beat.
I've settled into 368 degrees and get great taste and still fair clouds.
Find that the auto shut off timer a little too quick though. I power cycle with the main button to turn off and then back on every couple minutes to avoid it going cool when it times out. Not the fastest heat up but holds temp OK.
Noted that it does have a hard time in cold weather. Which is somewhat expected. A good puff will set it back 10 degrees when below freezing out. But who cares now that spring is here...
:clap:

Honestly, I thought it heated up pretty fast. I was expecting longer for a budget vape. it could be that its 80 degrees where im at? The FM V5.0s took longer but that maybe from a medicated perspective.....I havent put them head to head.
This thing can definitely put out clouds. i will also-->:clap:
 

Sungodv

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Yes, the cap/mouthpiece is the weakest link...besides the solder taste. I had the metal cylinder that you screw the top onto (part with the screen) come out of the plastic that holds it, but the seller sent me another mouthpiece since it didn't even last a week. I can see why they are available separately. $14 a crack is a bit much. I too use the black rubber extender with mine.
The Vapium Summit looks cool, but @ $150? I'll wait and see if it comes down some when they get more plentiful in the states. Titan kicks it for under $50, just not the coolest or tastiest vapor to be had.
 
Sungodv,

Pipes

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Accessory Maker
Yes, the cap/mouthpiece is the weakest link...besides the solder taste. I had the metal cylinder that you screw the top onto (part with the screen) come out of the plastic that holds it, but the seller sent me another mouthpiece since it didn't even last a week. I can see why they are available separately. $14 a crack is a bit much.
That part also gave out on me as well. :cry: While trying to unscrew the screen the whole thing twisted out. Just pressure fit in.
Pipes will probably keep his going even if he has to build a new shell for it LOL. Keep it up with your cool mods!
:tup:
You know me well. lol.
When that piece separates, don't loose it. Happens the piece still fits into the top without the enclosure. Fits snugly into the upper rubber grommet. It will even go further when hot. Careful though as if you wait till it cools to take out it can be stuck as the bowl cools.
What I have done for now is attach it directly to a piece of medical rubber tubing and onto a glass piece. Funny as now the screen doesn't seem to clog. Functions great!

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What I have really been keeping my eyes open for is something like this glass 510 drip tip that has a 10.5mm outer diameter. The one in the link is 12.6mm but ordered anyway. The idea is to use inverted so the glass portion goes into the T2 and the connector into an empty 510 tube and another drip tip on the other side for the mouthpiece.
Pre-loading type method would be awesome. Maybe some ecig folks out there might fine something useful in their arsenals.? :science:
 
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Sungodv

Well-Known Member
Loved to see all the insides and stuff you have showed us in this thread...your titan is pretty Frankensteined and has morphed. Does the hole in the side allow more air flow? Is the latest thing making it taste better?
What is it you sell too, btw?
I'm pretty sure it was just the heat or taking the mouthpiece off while hot that made the metal thing come out of the plastic. Eventually a crack formed in the plastic, but it still holds if it take it off at less an angle and I have a spare mouth / cap goodies:razz:. Hope mine holds up a while. While it's OK, I would get something else when or if it dies. Or maybe something new if something I've been tempted by comes along, like a cheaper Vapium Summit.
This thing sure does bake well. :brow:
 
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Sungodv,

Pipes

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Accessory Maker
Yeah, I like to mod my units to better suit my needs whenever possible. I really like the oven on this pup. The rest can be massaged somewhat. That hole you see is left from the previous mod. Guess some additional air might get throw but doubt if changes anything.

I received that glass 510 drip tip I mentioned previously and, sure enough, is too big to fit the oven. Too bad as length would have been dead on. Anyway, it made me more determined to somehow make the mouthpiece 510 compatible. What I came up with was to use a 510 to CE4 adapter which I shortened by about 4 mm. Butt ended with the OEM metal mouthpiece part, and used a piece of shrink wrap to hold together and cover the seem of the butt ending.
I mixed up a little JB Kwik Weld and secured much more tight. Made sure all was squared away and centered while this was setting. Mixed up a second layer of JB and applied to make kind of a vase type belly around the mouthpiece to really firm up and give a spot to hold it. While the glue was hardening I kept turning it to keep the glue in the proper shape. This stuff will start to stiffen up in 3 minutes or so. Wait until it's like a stiff putty which is touchable, then can kneaded and roll by fingers to get a very uniform shape.
After a bowl I realized it was too hot to grab easily so ended up putting a small piece of heat resistance silicon tubing. This is working great and is 18mm glass friendly....:D
The glue is not in the vapor path as the end goes through the gourmet in the top of the bowl, so any off gassing should not be any problem. As the glue is an un-known in this regard.
Here is the result. (Hopefully the last for a while...)
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It fits quite tight and can actually be picked up by the mouthpiece with no problem. Take the drip tip off and will stay together in your pocket. For tighter pockets the lower screen portion can be unscrewed and detached from the rest to stay with the bowl keeping a load ready to go.
Now this particular drip tip does change the feel of the unit with the wide mouthpiece. Have to regulate the flow yourself as can drop the heater temp very fast if draw quickly. Kind of good and bad....? It does taste somewhat cooler with the added flow though. Really noticeable through water, have too slow the draw right down, but can get whooper clouds if done right.
Fun unit.
 

tatterss2

New Member
I just saw a vaporizer called the Titan on Alibaba, I don't want to post the link since I don't know anything about it....

It seems a little bit better than the dry herb ey-cigs that they sold everywhere, and it doesn't seems to me tthat it's a counterfeit of another vape (or idk it).

It seems to be a conduction vape with a oven ala pax with a vaporblunt style design, there is 3 different t) settings: 160°C, 190°C,and 225°C if I remenber correctly....

Somebody had already test it, or do you have more infos about it?

I don't expect to get it, I'm curious
Just got titan 2 .just two weeks,this thing rocks.
 

Vapor King

Well-Known Member
T2 is well worth the money!!! ($30/$40) You actually get more than you pay for with this vape... It works great

Just need to get through the first 5/6 session then the taste gets better.....it will never replace my pax but it a great back up or a great place to start until you get a better vape
 

RaffOutLoud

Member
Hey all! I've been lurking around these forums since the fiancee and I decided to try to remove combustibles from our lives (still trying to quit smoking cigarettes... down to just a couple a day.) We wanted to start with something a little cheaper before really making an investment; wanted to make sure it's something we enjoyed.

Picked up a Grenco G Pro (titan 1) from a well-respected local headshop. This thing is great, especially as an entry level. I know with it being a Grenco and at a local store I probably overpaid but I saw a lot of things about counterfeits and "robot farts" and dangerous parts and figured I'd be safe instead. Hell, I even found a couple places that had (according to the sources I saw) counterfeits. We've had it for almost a month now and while there are some definite flaws that make me want to upgrade in the not-so-distant future, it's been awesome for what it is thus far.

PROS:
- Very small and discrete. i haven't had reason to take it in public yet but I wouldn't be worried about it.
- microUSB charging port with use-while-charging. Nice touch, can charge anywhere.
- Bowls last quite some time. If I pack it firmly it holds quite a bit and can last for 2 cycles on low (red), 2-3 cycles on medium (green), and then 3-4 cycles of big rips to kill it on high (blue).
- Tastes very nice in the first cycle on low. Even the first few rips if we start on high taste good.
- After two dry runs on first use there was absolutely no manufacturer robot fart smell. Another reason I didn't mind spending the little extra.
- Even coloration and when on high and ripping until there's nothing left there's no combustion and it's what I would call a "toasty brown".

CONS:
- I've already broken two mouthpieces, which seem to be made of thin plastic. Since they have to be popped off by applying pressure from the side, they seem to be starting to crack down the side and eventually the body that holds the screen breaks away from the mp body. The first one that came with the unit broke after two weeks, then I got a replacement from the headshop while I wait for the two replacements I ordered from the Grenco website. That one just broke an hour ago (luckily after the two replacements came in) so that lasted about a week and a half, but the tiny cracks started a day or two ago.
- The battery is slightly lacking but if we put it on charge right after use it's fine. We're never eagerly waiting for it to charge.
- I wish there was a mode to make it stay on for longer than 3 minutes. It'll slightly too short. Not a huge gripe but options would be nice.
- The rubber-ish finish on the body, right around the air intake, seems to be fraying. Just cosmetic but still...


Overall we both really like it but an upgrade is going to happen. In the meantime, I saw the mod earlier in this thread using the test tube and mp/filter from the "vaporizer" that I just so happen to also have so I might try that. But any other suggestions about my crappy luck with the mp?

I look forward to learning from this forum and hopefully contributing soon!
 
RaffOutLoud,

JNW

Member
Where are you guys finding them so cheap? Are they on the Chinese sites? The cheapest I found was $50 shipped in the US.
 
JNW,

Pipes

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Here and lots on AliExpress as well. I see they have actually gone up a couple bucks. Watch the pricing as some are for 2 pieces and some are not.

BTW guys, I have had my heater oven opened up and found the source of the bad lingering taste. The method they used to heat the device is very simple and possibly controversial?
The element is actually just a strip of flexible PC board which the etched pattern snakes back and forth for the length of it and comes back along one side. So the two ends of the etched pattern are soldered to the electrical leads coming in. This flex board is wrapped around the outside of oven about 3-4 wraps and the thermal sensor sandwiched between the last wrap. The wrap is secured with I believe Kapton tape.
Around the flex board is a layer of some kind of insulation. No idea of this stuffs make up. It is held on with the same Kaption type tape.
So what stinks? The flex board appears to have had some type of adhesive backing when initially installed. It was all dry and looked quite burnt. As did the edges of the insulation material and tape. Have pics if anyone's interested...?
Edit: Added one of them. Here you can see the element flex board being un-rolled.
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The reason I took it apart was because the stem got wedged in the oven pretty good and I guess I used too much twisting while getting it out. So where the wires connected to the flex board had sheared off. Believe it or not, I did manage to re-attach the wires but didn't get the thermocouple placed correctly. It reads a way too low. Everything works but have to set the temperature really low to compensate.

I'm going to attempt to replace that flex heater with more traditional element down the road.
But no rush as I ordered myself an AIR last night.....woot woot...
 
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JNW

Member
Here and lots on AliExpress as well. I see they have actually gone up a couple bucks. Watch the pricing as some are for 2 pieces and some are not.

Thanks, thats what I thought. I found them here with free shipping.
https://www.allstarvape.com/category.php?catid=531

Anyone deal with those guys?


I figure for the few extra bucks its worth the faster shipping and dealing with a US based retailer in case something does go wrong.


EDIT: After looking at that picture I'm not really sure I want one. It reminds me of Flexx Wat heat tape. What the hell is that thing? I cant see any adhesive that can be used on that being safe.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a portable around the 70$ range for a beginner in portables? May give the classifieds section a shot too. Dont mind a second hand PV as long as its reliable and I can get a few months good use out of it till I brave spending big cash.


@Pipes, another thing I am wondering, if I do decide to buy one seeing how it fits 18650 batteries which look like rewrapped ones of who knows what brand, does this thing have any sort of protection against shorts or overheating due to its temps? I dont like using Li-Ions and I am wondering if some of the issues people are reporting are due to not using IMRs that can handle higher C ratings, like I assume this device would be putting out. I know a lot of us E-Cig users often cringe when people talk about using Li-Ion these days in sub ohm high drain builds.

See, after seeing your pics of the battery I am again thinking about grabbing one and placing one of my better IMR 18650 batteries in it.
 
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JNW,

Solomon

Talk to the Beard
I do NOT like the looks of that heating element. The "glue" on that piece of PCB looks burnt.

So we immediately know 2 things.

1 - The "glue" may not designed for this kind of heat application. Heat resistant adhesives generally do not "blacken" (assuming it wasn't black to begin with). Blackening usually means some level of ozidation. I would of expected a type of heat resistant silicon glue, which when over-heated (or burned) turns white instead of black.

2 - If the "glue" is actually burning, it's out-gassing "something". It would be really helpful if we knew exactly what kind of glue was used.

My guess is they are using heat resistant Kaptan flexible PCB covered in heat resistant Kaplan tape - but the bonding agent used to seal the multiple layers of PCB together when rolled is some kind of inexpensive heat-resistant glue that is not "medical grade" or ultra-low-gassing. Of course, we are just guessing.
 

Pipes

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Wow, over double the price. Good mark up there.

Not sure on built in safety power features. I would assume it is built into the charging circuit. Over/under charge has protection. I measured the heater current and it's about 2 1/2 amps while heating. So nothing overly special about the battery. Heater resistance IIRC, was around 1.4 ohms. (not sub ohming) IMO, using IMR will work fine but not necessary.

If thinking of this unit as a primary vape or introductory vape, I would not recommend for you. Great as a cheap back up or in my case a unit to have some fun with.

IMO, getting a great 1st vape should be a guaranteed experience. For this and the price your willing to pay, I'd suggest an open boxed Solo from PIU. Keep an eye open on the link above as they show up from time to time for around your $70 budget price. They do not last long.....
Good Luck,
 
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