Discontinued Elevape SV

PPN said:

Did you notice only the ESV usb cable is able to connect the unit to the app, my others usb cables can charge the unit but don't connect it to the app....

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Just the opposite here, the USB that came with the unit only charges it and I have to use others for the app

USB cable it came with was useless for everything for me, my Motorola USB works fine for both charging and app

However my ESV suddenly stopped working, light flashes a bunch of times if you try to inhale. I think it indicates problem with coil, but it was working fine like literally a few hours before I slid it into my pocket. Guess I'll have to send it in sooner than I thought, not a huge deal bc I was planning to anyway bc my retainer ring ant be removed, but I had been really attached to it over the last few weeks...

Vapor Loop said:

This get's me even more excited knowing a stem full fills the Esv.

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1 ESV bowl = about 1 shorty PVHES bowl. Rough estimate. I'd bet that someone can provide a more precise estimate.

Shit Snacks said:

USB cable it came with was useless for everything for me, my Motorola USB works fine for both charging and app

However my ESV suddenly stopped working, light flashes a bunch of times if you try to inhale. I think it indicates problem with coil, but it was working fine like literally a few hours before I slid it into my pocket. Guess I'll have to send it in sooner than I thought, not a huge deal bc I was planning to anyway bc my retainer ring ant be removed, but I had been really attached to it over the last few weeks...

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Sorry to heard your issues, more I use this vape more I love it, I can get an amazing taste and strong effect!

What temps are your favourites one people? After 2 days I'm still trying different draws/temps and still not decided.

But I really love to play with this vape. In fact I think lately I'm vaping "too much"

b0 said:

But I really love to play with this vape. In fact I think lately I'm vaping "too much"

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This was also true for me. Kinda like when I switched from combustion and realized all the benefits of vaporizing (stealth/low smell, ect.). I was "getting in there" all the time. I'm glad the ESV is pretty efficient cuz same thing happened when I got my ESV dialed in.

b0 said:

What temps are your favourites one people? After 2 days I'm still trying different draws/temps and still not decided.

But I really love to play with this vape. In fact I think lately I'm vaping "too much"

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For me temps depend heavily on strain, moisture, density and grind. If I had to pick a favorite temp I would say 350°.

I got my new body in yesterday, the battery issue is definitely solved.
But I don't think this vape is going to work out for me.
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What kind of grind consistency should i use for this vape? normal diamond style grinder or would a mflb fine grinder work best?

I use a 30mm 4 piece grinder. I have space case, but I prefer the cheapo grinder.

you think a mflb fine grinder might combust?

Never used one, but I think its going a mess of your sensor and chamber lid screen. I think combustion has more to do with draw speed, coil position and temp.

ok thanks a lot @thotfukr

gizmo_ult said:

you think a mflb fine grinder might combust?

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Without a doubt. But then so will coarser grinds. It's not the grind that leads to combustion I think but pushing too hard/lack of stirring.

The material doesn't vape evenly, the hottest part is toward the MP. If you don't stir as you keep pouring the heat onto what's left (trying to make vapor from the herb at the cooler parts) you'll get some vapor but at the expense of too much heat in the area already depleted, sending that part overtemp and bringing on combustion.

I find a light (not compacted, still loose in the bowl) load of 'medium coarse' grind like comes out of this excellent grinder/stash container works very well:
http://themedtainer.myshopify.com/pages/about-us

You can get them from PV, PIU, even Amazon. IMO an excellent accessory in it's own right. Air tight and very tough.

But above all, stir between hits. Or else.........

OF

@OF thanks for that and yea I do stir in between hits, I ended up also getting the auto stir tool for it that way it would of been simpler for me than having to open and move it around.

I feel I get a more thorough extraction from a finer grind. I've tried several grinds and combinations of grinds as well as over a dozen different strains.

@thotfukr Well i know finer works best on my mflb and plenty but i might have to try it on the elevape and see how it works out.

grokit said:

I got my new body in yesterday, the battery issue is definitely solved.
But I don't think this vape is going to work out for me.
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Could you elaborate please?

Sometme I'm thinking this vape is on the limit between a vaporizer and an e-pipe especially if you want to extract all the goodies you are on the edge of combustion....

Now my bigger complain is how the abv I get is still plenty of goodies, even if it turns brown pretty quickly (I quasi only use a 330°F setting), I feel medication but I can't get all the effects from my load, I save it to vape it with my VG. So I think this vape is not enough efficient(still sticky) and conservative(turn brown too fast) with our meds!

Although there is a lot of pros also...but efficiency might to be the most important aspect of a vape, on this topic the ESV needs a lot of improvements!

Edit: in fact it's a sort of VG without the torch!

PPN said:

Could you elaborate please?

Sometme I'm thinking this vape is on the limit between a vaporizer and an e-pipe especially if you want to extract all the goodies you are on the edge of combustion....

Now my bigger complain is how the abv I get is still plenty of goodies, even if it turns brown pretty quickly (I quasi only use a 330°F setting), I feel medication but I can't get all the effects from my load, I save it to vape it with my VG. So I think this vape is not enough efficient(still sticky) and conservative(turn brown too fast) with our meds!

Although there is a lot of pros also...but efficiency might to be the most important aspect of a vape, on this topic the ESV needs a lot of improvements!

Edit: in fact it's a sort of VG without the torch!

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Okay you asked for it lol; I really wanted to like this vape. But calling it an e-pipe is spot on ime so far, with the caveat that it doesn't even burn evenly. This represents my typical experience with the esv so far:



I got the body back but not the promised replacement bowl section, so I'm still using the defective bowl that the magnets popped out of. Even if my first draw doesn't combust, I get a wimpy hit and stir and then it combusts. I tried turning the software temp down as far as it can go, and I've opened it up and adjusted the coil repeatedly. So far, the balance between wimpy hits and combustion has escaped me.

The above load is packed reasonably tight, but believe me I tried my esv with both a looser and a tighter pack. The bowl size is quite small to begin with, about the size of my single infinity/cloud etc. hits. The fact that the esv is only capable of extracting one side of the load makes this doubly frustrating. And I know what you mean by inefficient; at least I can take all of my half-combusted, half-green loads and dump them into my infinity bowl to finish them off, but that's far from ideal. In fact I'm sick of it.

I have misplaced the tiny hex wrench 3 times, which along with a jeweler's screwdriver and a set of very small needlenose pliers is necessary to try and adjust this thing. And if you misplace one of the special screws you're done. I've been wasting time, money and herb on this for a couple of days now, and I'm done with it. Kudos to those that are getting good results with their esv's, but I am definitively not one of them. I'm tired of combusting with it, I'm tired of messing with it, and at this point I'm sorry I bought it.

Sorry to hear that @grokit ....it is a trailblazing vape, I guess future iterations will only make it better ey

I just got mine! Was stuck at Aussie customs for a while, I suspect it was the free organic mix...

Well its here now and I can't wait to try it!

Sorry to heard your issues Grokit, I never trully combusted, just on the edge... but as you noticed taste deteriorates quickly also.

With more practice I got better results without black spots but a very dark abv for a full convection vape!

I use settings 4 (320°), 12(360°) and 27(440°) for concentrates, I didn't really enjoy concentrates experience with the ESV except with bubble hash but it was too messy (I cleaned everything after 1 session), I tried shatter on a Haze wick placed in the bowl, very whispy vapor and no taste at all...and it kill the battery.

I use quasi exclusively the low temp setting and I'm thinking to switch it to 1 (305°), I think the indicated temp is when you hit it with a strong draw, like for mflb, Flashvape and several others vapes slower your draw increase temp in the bowl.

I noticed to puff on the ESV as a cigar (àla Hercules) give me nice results too (about to keep the t° low).

What do you think about to put something in the bowl to create a bit of conduction (maybe it helps for hot spots)? glass beads? ceramic or glass screen? but the bowl is so tiny....

grokit said:

Okay you asked for it lol; I really wanted to like this vape. But calling it an e-pipe is spot on ime so far, with the caveat that it doesn't even burn evenly. This represents my typical experience with the esv so far:

I got the body back but not the promised replacement bowl section, so I'm still using the defective bowl that the magnets popped out of. Even if my first draw doesn't combust, I get a wimpy hit and stir and then it combusts. I tried turning the software temp down as far as it can go, and I've opened it up and adjusted the coil repeatedly. So far, the balance between wimpy hits and combustion has escaped me.

The above load is packed reasonably tight, but believe me I tried my esv with both a looser and a tighter pack. The bowl size is quite small to begin with, about the size of my single infinity/cloud etc. hits. The fact that the esv is only capable of extracting one side of the load makes this doubly frustrating. And I know what you mean by inefficient; at least I can take all of my half-combusted, half-green loads and dump them into my infinity bowl to finish them off, but that's far from ideal. In fact I'm sick of it.

I have misplaced the tiny hex wrench 3 times, which along with a jeweler's screwdriver and a set of very small needlenose pliers is necessary to try and adjust this thing. And if you misplace one of the special screws you're done. I've been wasting time, money and herb on this for a couple of days now, and I'm done with it. Kudos to those that are getting good results with their esv's, but I am definitively not one of them. I'm tired of combusting with it, I'm tired of messing with it, and at this point I'm sorry I bought it.

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I was having the same experience as you. I was told to bend my coil down towards the sensor and add a third screen between the coil and load. It still vapes uneven but it doesn't combust at all any more.

Yeah, a few days is not a lot of time, I think its been well documented here that it takes a lot of patience and practice, and sacrificing several bowls so you can just learn, using the Elevape as exclusively as possible. If someone is annoyed by that, unevenness, inconstancy, combustion, after only a few days, then obviously its not for them and I don't understand why they bought it then? My friend who just got one has been working hard to learn it, and now he's getting pretty fantastic results.

Also my hotspot doesn't seem as bad as that, I have a much worse hotspot in my firefly now... And I've seen hotspots in most any convection vape (T1 and underdog can have em too). To combat them better, try drawing faster towards the end of a bowl, once you feel the hot vapor, that can help distribute the heat a bit better at the end to prevent scorching. Also bottle cap screen is better than screw in middle, more airflow distribution, easier to keep clean, could help with hotspots

grokit said:

Okay you asked for it lol; I really wanted to like this vape. But calling it an e-pipe is spot on ime so far, with the caveat that it doesn't even burn evenly. This represents my typical experience with the esv so far:

I got the body back but not the promised replacement bowl section, so I'm still using the defective bowl that the magnets popped out of. Even if my first draw doesn't combust, I get a wimpy hit and stir and then it combusts. I tried turning the software temp down as far as it can go, and I've opened it up and adjusted the coil repeatedly. So far, the balance between wimpy hits and combustion has escaped me.

The above load is packed reasonably tight, but believe me I tried my esv with both a looser and a tighter pack. The bowl size is quite small to begin with, about the size of my single infinity/cloud etc. hits. The fact that the esv is only capable of extracting one side of the load makes this doubly frustrating. And I know what you mean by inefficient; at least I can take all of my half-combusted, half-green loads and dump them into my infinity bowl to finish them off, but that's far from ideal. In fact I'm sick of it.

I have misplaced the tiny hex wrench 3 times, which along with a jeweler's screwdriver and a set of very small needlenose pliers is necessary to try and adjust this thing. And if you misplace one of the special screws you're done. I've been wasting time, money and herb on this for a couple of days now, and I'm done with it. Kudos to those that are getting good results with their esv's, but I am definitively not one of them. I'm tired of combusting with it, I'm tired of messing with it, and at this point I'm sorry I bought it.

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How long have you had it? I went through an ounce and had to send my unit back to Joe to have him adjust the coil before I felt as if I didn't waste my money. Please post a picture of your coil position. Your grind does appear to be packed way too tight and not fine enough. The only time I have combusted is when I draw too slow and on the other hand wispy hits are from drawing too fast. If you adjust the coil right or have Joe do it combustion will no longer be an issue on low temps. This is my oven after 1 draw at 335°...huge cloud no burning

vapeppau said:

Sorry to hear that @grokit ....it is a trailblazing vape, I guess future iterations will only make it better ey

I just got mine! Was stuck at Aussie customs for a while, I suspect it was the free organic mix...

Well its here now and I can't wait to try it!

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Yeah my esv is also waiting at the customs... in my opinion it has also to do with this free organic mix... if i will ever purchase from vapornation again i will never ever want this organic mix included...

And calling the customs office is another story......