badandy

New Member
One thing I would say to potential new nano purchasers is I Dont use my glass stems anymore. I've got both types of stem and much prefer my j hook.
Dry or with my ashcatcher. The bend in the hook takes the edge off for me. Only my "two cents". So consider this when buying assessories.

I can't find this accessory on the epic vape website. Can you please elaborate more or post a pic?
 
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Johatsu shita

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Well, just ordered up a j hook with shower head perc to go with the adjust-a-gong I had to get after hitting up a j hook thread on this site. I'll post pics whenever the hell it all gets here. Just sucks I couldn't overnight everything, I really wanna push these temps to the limit and extract everything at once so I can float even higher. The nano already gets me in the atmosphere, but with some water to help cool I'm gonna lift off to outer space.:cool:

I can't find this accessory on the epic vape website. Can you please elaborate more or post a pic?
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He's talking about something like this.^^^ Epic doesn't carry them you have to go through a third party seller of your choice. I'd pair it with THIS
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if you wanna have a real deluxe vapor experience.:brow:
 
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SecureSwede

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Now with my whole situation fixed by Nadia I can finally kick back and really enjoy the nano for what it is. I do still think my volcano has the ability to get me higher, but the nano is for sure my daily driver.

I just can't seem to really get that stoney feeling I get with my volcano, I love the efficiency of the nano but I wish I could get that 1 step higher and feel more medicated. I guess thats the trade off between the tiny bowl of the nano and the huge one for the volcano. I do love the taste from the hits, similar to the firefly but a little more constricted.


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SecureSwede

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I found moving the bowl screen lower and going higher on the temp can help get me there. For that my screen is about 17mm away from the heater tip and I go up to 7.8on the dial.
Very cool, Ill try that now. Iv been experimenting with my all Glass GonGs recently and they are 10x better for cleaning purposes. I was going to smoke right now, but I think ill try another bowls worth to test out what you said.
 
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Johatsu shita

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Now with my whole situation fixed by Nadia I can finally kick back and really enjoy the nano for what it is. I do still think my volcano has the ability to get me higher, but the nano is for sure my daily driver.

I just can't seem to really get that stoney feeling I get with my volcano, I love the efficiency of the nano but I wish I could get that 1 step higher and feel more medicated. I guess thats the trade off between the tiny bowl of the nano and the huge one for the volcano. I do love the taste from the hits, similar to the firefly but a little more constricted.


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I use it with the screen this far down and on 8. Also included how much herb I throw in too. Needless to say this gets me as stoney as I've ever been and need to be.
 
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SecureSwede

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I use it with the screen this far down and on 8. Also included how much herb I throw in too. Needless to say this gets me as stoney as I've ever been and need to be.
I think my gong is a little shorter, it pops out when I push the epic similarly to how you have it. I pushed the screen in just a little but for some support so it wont fall out so easily. After finishing two bowls moving between 7.8 and 8 I can't thank you enough. Your method helped a lot, thanks!

Now after finishing a 3rd bowl Im pretty blazed, had to turn the temp down to stop myself from getting a little too high.
 
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Johatsu shita

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I think my gong is a little shorter, it pops out when I push the epic similarly to how you have it. I pushed the screen in just a little but for some support so it wont fall out so easily. After finishing two bowls moving between 7.8 and 8 I can't thank you enough. Your method helped a lot, thanks!

Now after finishing a 3rd bowl Im pretty blazed, had to turn the temp down to stop myself from getting a little too high.
Glad to help. I've only owned it for a few days but I've done quite a bit of playing with depths and temps and this seems to be best for me right now. I'm still playing around though so we'll see. Definitely gotta watch out too because you'll be glued to the couch in no time using higher temps. Might even become the couch. Lol.
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Gray Area

Well-Known Member
^^* that looks pretty much like my standard gong set up. Deep screen and a decent loads worth in there.
I (very lightly) tamp the load to half an inch below the rim of the gong, which leaves about 2-3 mm gap between the heater and load when the nano is inserted.

This "half inch from top of gong" is my constant. My screen depth can vary wildly depending on what and/or how much I'm loading. Which is why I love the adjust a bowl gongs and would never buy an all glass one.
Yeah, I guess it's a bit fiddlier to clean, but the adaptability far outweighs that for me.

I have about 10 screens in all. Most of them function as expected and will clog quickly with a fine grind/hash/vigorous stirring, and slowly with a coarser grind and gentle stirring... A couple are better than the average and work excellent, solid in the gong and never seem to clog quickly regardless of what's thrown t them.
I do have a couple that are much looser and prone to dumping a load in the bubbler if I'm not careful stirring :doh: which I've done on more occasions than I'm willing to admit to... No amount of bending or widening seems to help.

I really should just bin those two I guess, but just can't seem to bring myself to :hmm:
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Ok, this sounds interesting, but I am trying to grasp the concept. Is this 25 seconds from the intial draw to vapor production to holding in the vapor and then releasing?



Ok this looks bad ass...like a trident of somesort. But what is the purpose of this? As opposed to just having one adaptor.

Don't really want to fire up the debate here, but there are many discussions around FC about this theory and competing ones. I tend to be in the camp that believes our lungs can only absorb so much from the vapor in one hit. The theory is that you're only absorbing actives while your lungs are taking in oxygen. If you take a big hit, all the vapor left over after oxygen is absorbed is just blown out and wasted on exhale. Not that you won't get stoned, or even more stoned if you hold your hits, but oxygen depletion (even from just holding your breath so much every other inhale with no vapor) will get you a little buzzed, too. IME the best way to get the absolute most form your stash in short time is to take smaller hits, hold them for 10 seconds or so, then exhale half and inhale more oxygen that your lungs will absorb - along with vapor still left in them. If you're daring you can do it again with what is still left in your lungs, but I find best effects with just one additional breath of fresh air. Whether you like big cloudy hits, or little wispy ones, give this a try. Think you'll notice the results.

That's not to say that one method is better than the other for everyone. Different people like different things and all of us work a bit differently. So what may work best for me, may not work best for others. But always a good idea to experiment with different methods like this to see what works best for you - or what you like best. This is true for much of the discussions above.


Now with my whole situation fixed by Nadia I can finally kick back and really enjoy the nano for what it is. I do still think my volcano has the ability to get me higher, but the nano is for sure my daily driver.

I just can't seem to really get that stoney feeling I get with my volcano, I love the efficiency of the nano but I wish I could get that 1 step higher and feel more medicated. I guess thats the trade off between the tiny bowl of the nano and the huge one for the volcano. I do love the taste from the hits, similar to the firefly but a little more constricted.


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Same as above... much depends on what you are used to and what you are looking for. But, something else to keep in mind here. Just because the nano is easy to use right out of the box doesn't mean you have mastered it after a few sessions. The nano allows for all kinds of different aspects of tweaking. Sometimes we're just looking to sit down and have a satisfying sesh, but on those times where you're feeling like playing a little bit - do so. It has been a while since I've learned or found anything new. But, was using my nano daily for more than a year and still figuring out - or reading here about - new techniques that have some merit. Many will say, yep, got it, I'll just do this forever. That's cool if that is what you're looking for and you're totally satisfied. But, playing around a bit can give sometimes surprising results. Just please share anything interesting here so we all can try it!

And, even if you do just do the same thing every time and are happy with it - some practice will almost always make you better with it and produce better results.

I can't find this accessory on the epic vape website. Can you please elaborate more or post a pic?

J-hooks aren't sold on the Epicvape website. They can be had many other places. Joda has been doing some amazing ones lately. But again, some people like it - some don't. I've tried it with a j-hook and wasn't too thrilled. Personally, I'd rather a straight stem - actually my Joda stem - than a j-hook if not going through water.

For me, smaller loads at medium heat with a close screen through a bubbler are the absolute best! But, that doesn't mean everyone - or even anyone - will feel the same. Play with it, add different accessories, change your heat and screen height, take huge hits, take small hits, hold them in for as long as you possibly can, or blow them out after 5 seconds - try it all and anything else you can think of! If it works for you, make that your primary method - or even your only method. There really is no absolute universal best way to nano.

Even once you get your favorite technique figured out and down pat, you still may find that some hits are absolutely fucking amazing, while others are just really good. I still haven't figured out how to get what I call those "Bingo!" hits every time, but have finally got to the point where I can usually pull one or two in every 2 - 3 load session. Could be I'm just a slow learner or often very confused, but has taken many, many nano hits to even get them this often (easily more than 1,000). So play, tweak and enjoy and try to hone your technique to what you like best. I'd pretty much guarantee you'll find it worthwhile.

@Enchantre ... LOVE YOUR VIDS!!! Really got a kick out of that one except it made my mouth water so much!
 
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xer0

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Holy smokes my Maple Burl is already shipped via USPS, now that is awesome service! @ACE OF VAPE sent ya a pm, thank you!

That is lightning fast shipping! Very nice! Hope my new one goes out as quickly.

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I had been waiting for the new exotics to be posted as I was really hoping for another Cocobolo to become available but I really needed to get my order in so I can get the replacement rheostat and cord for my v1 here asap. I was going back and forth between this and the Maple Burl and while I was leaning toward this I usually prefer maple so I was torn.

Thank you for making my decision easier. :)
 

Chezgreendream

First the flavor, then the buZzz settles in....
@flotntoke, a healthy debate never hurt anyone. Infact, I believe is through debates that people make the biggest discoveries. Yes, sometimes it gets a bit emotional, but people need to tell the difference when a debate is a debate and when it starts taking form as personal attacks. In the end either sides will join one another or they will still be opposed to one anothers ideas. Even that is to be respected too, because individuality is what makes us different and if everyone was the same. Then a boring world this would be.

On a lighter note, I see what you are saying my friend. For some reason, it has become a natural practice of mine to take in hits, hold, release some, inhale oxygen, hold and repeat. Until no more vapor is coming out. I find this gets me where I need to be.
 

mixchu69

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Now with my whole situation fixed by Nadia I can finally kick back and really enjoy the nano for what it is. I do still think my volcano has the ability to get me higher, but the nano is for sure my daily driver.

I just can't seem to really get that stoney feeling I get with my volcano, I love the efficiency of the nano but I wish I could get that 1 step higher and feel more medicated. I guess thats the trade off between the tiny bowl of the nano and the huge one for the volcano. I do love the taste from the hits, similar to the firefly but a little more constricted.


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That's perfect secureswede,

You can use nano when you want To use less material and enjoy flavor,. Maybe daytime session. Volcano could be used to knock you out at night. Perfect balance
 

flying solo

Active Member
@Chezgreendream
I was just trying to relate an old concept of heat-herb interaction that the nano revived in my life. I live in a virtual bubble so really dont know how other folks approach the heating of the herb. I giggled for a good bit when I read what I wrote, giving timings, and sounding like I knew something. I just mean to rekindle that love of picking up a pinch between your fingers, rubbing it like sage in your palm, and sprinkling it down into the tube. It puts me in nice contact with the herb, and all the old woodchucks who taught me stuff. It reconnects me. That is why I say it is a beautiful thing for a vaporizer to do. You just hold the vapor until it stops trying to get out. The other approaches on here probably have science and logic behind them, this is just a way to dance with the heat-herb interaction. Every vaporizer handles heating the herb differently, and I like to appreciate that, and let each one fill its niche. But, whatever I say here, I am a fool, just sharing tidbits. Most people around here know some shit based on extensive experience. I am just piping up because you guys and gals have really helped me by the question asking and answer giving. Anything I say is non science based. The loise notes of a fellow consciousness researcher.
I unplug mine at night, and the plug from my mtn bike handlebars fits right over the detachable plug end. Super nice.
Have some ten year old beeswax I saved because it smelled so incredible. A fingernails worth rubbed into the heated nano is like aromatherapy, filling up my room with another of my favorite smells.
 

Chezgreendream

First the flavor, then the buZzz settles in....
@Chezgreendream
I was just trying to relate an old concept of heat-herb interaction that the nano revived in my life. I live in a virtual bubble so really dont know how other folks approach the heating of the herb. I giggled for a good bit when I read what I wrote, giving timings, and sounding like I knew something. I just mean to rekindle that love of picking up a pinch between your fingers, rubbing it like sage in your palm, and sprinkling it down into the tube. It puts me in nice contact with the herb, and all the old woodchucks who taught me stuff. It reconnects me. That is why I say it is a beautiful thing for a vaporizer to do. You just hold the vapor until it stops trying to get out. The other approaches on here probably have science and logic behind them, this is just a way to dance with the heat-herb interaction. Every vaporizer handles heating the herb differently, and I like to appreciate that, and let each one fill its niche. But, whatever I say here, I am a fool, just sharing tidbits. Most people around here know some shit based on extensive experience. I am just piping up because you guys and gals have really helped me by the question asking and answer giving. Anything I say is non science based. The loise notes of a fellow consciousness researcher.
I unplug mine at night, and the plug from my mtn bike handlebars fits right over the detachable plug end. Super nice.
Have some ten year old beeswax I saved because it smelled so incredible. A fingernails worth rubbed into the heated nano is like aromatherapy, filling up my room with another of my favorite smells.

Though your theory is not scientifically based, your ritual is experienced based and experience is the best of teachers. That deserves merit in itself.
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
@flotntoke, a healthy debate never hurt anyone. Infact, I believe is through debates that people make the biggest discoveries. Yes, sometimes it gets a bit emotional, but people need to tell the difference when a debate is a debate and when it starts taking form as personal attacks. In the end either sides will join one another or they will still be opposed to one anothers ideas. Even that is to be respected too, because individuality is what makes us different and if everyone was the same. Then a boring world this would be.

On a lighter note, I see what you are saying my friend. For some reason, it has become a natural practice of mine to take in hits, hold, release some, inhale oxygen, hold and repeat. Until no more vapor is coming out. I find this gets me where I need to be.

Probably shouldn't have even used the word "debate". "Discussion" is definitely better! But, hope all knew what I mean. More power to you @Chezgreendream ! I could never seem to get into much of a routine with this. I don't even do the one additional breath too often. Sometimes if I think of it, but usually if in a hurry or if I'm trying to avoid moving stuff from the "storage" jar to the in-use jar for a day. For me, it does seem to require a bit less time and material to get to where I'm looking to be. Not sure if easy to compare if this is your regular routine, but do you find the same (more efficient and quicker)?

@Chezgreendream
I was just trying to relate an old concept of heat-herb interaction that the nano revived in my life. I live in a virtual bubble so really dont know how other folks approach the heating of the herb. I giggled for a good bit when I read what I wrote, giving timings, and sounding like I knew something. I just mean to rekindle that love of picking up a pinch between your fingers, rubbing it like sage in your palm, and sprinkling it down into the tube. It puts me in nice contact with the herb, and all the old woodchucks who taught me stuff. It reconnects me. That is why I say it is a beautiful thing for a vaporizer to do. You just hold the vapor until it stops trying to get out. The other approaches on here probably have science and logic behind them, this is just a way to dance with the heat-herb interaction. Every vaporizer handles heating the herb differently, and I like to appreciate that, and let each one fill its niche. But, whatever I say here, I am a fool, just sharing tidbits. Most people around here know some shit based on extensive experience. I am just piping up because you guys and gals have really helped me by the question asking and answer giving. Anything I say is non science based. The loise notes of a fellow consciousness researcher.
I unplug mine at night, and the plug from my mtn bike handlebars fits right over the detachable plug end. Super nice.
Have some ten year old beeswax I saved because it smelled so incredible. A fingernails worth rubbed into the heated nano is like aromatherapy, filling up my room with another of my favorite smells.

Wasn't trying to discount your method at all!! Know some still love taking a huge hit and holding forever. I still do this on occasion, too. Just adding suggestions, and more than anything saying that anyone can benefit from trying different things to find what they like best or what works best for them. Was honestly pretty vaked and a bit drunk when I hit FC last night. :ko:

My main points are: do what you like, how you like, and enjoy whatever works for you! Don't think that what anyone else says is THE best way to do any of this is THE best way for you or anyone else. Play with your nano! Try some of the stuff you read here and see what you can find yourself. Small tweaks can create noticeable differences you may like even better. And, think everyone will get better results for a while after you first start using it. I don't really know if practice makes "perfect". It may for some, but even after much trial hasn't made it the case for me on every hit. All that practice is fun though, and has made me a good bit more skillful with it. OR, if you just fumbled into a routine or follow what someone else has suggested and it works the way you like, just roll with it. You don't really have to try any of this or anything else if your satisfied where you are, but nano has a good bit of versatility that anyone can probably use to their advantage. I guess many vapes do, but IME nano really excels here.
 
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