Discontinued Haze Dual V3

Hi, do you know where are the air inlets please?

Maybe I'm a bit stupid but I can't see it....

More info about the Haze's that went out will be posted in the "Paying it Forward" thread later.

Hello. I just purchased the haze last night (Thank you for all the info on the product everyone) and didn't get the pay it forward because I completely forgot. I love the idea though. Can I still buy it or do u have to get it when you initially check out?

Megavapatron said:

Hello. I just purchased the haze last night (Thank you for all the info on the product everyone) and didn't get the pay it forward because I completely forgot. I love the idea though. Can I still buy it or do u have to get it when you initially check out?

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You can get it any time, so you shouldn't buy it until you need it.

Thats cool. Thanks alot

Just received my free upgrade unit the V 2.5 Stealth Black + free XL batteries!
I really appreciate their customer service! Thanks Jamie!

The new V 2.5 gives truly amazing taste and great vapor production even at 1~2 heat settings. The experience was totally different with the new ranges of temperatures in terms of taste and efficiency.
Definitely worth the upgrade!

TL;DR: I like it. Is it worth 250$? I dont know, if you dont mind spending the money and like trying new products give it a go. When I vape I forgot that I did, like 5 mins after, things start getting a little slow I remember “O shit I just toked” because it’s a smooth and clean high.

I got my unit over a week ago. First 4 days I had it, all I did I was smoke. Nothing was done on my end.

Since its my first vape, I really cant compare it with any other, but my bowl.

I only used herbs with the all purpose cans, as I dont am not sure how often do the convection/conduction screens last.

My random thoughts

• First few hits on my first run had my throat drying and coughing like a motherfucker. I suspect it was because I did not run it a few times using it. By day four, I still coughed, but not as much and still get that dry throat feeling. But you get that when you smoke regardless.
• I generally use temp 2, as my normal setting, temp 1 is good as well. I make sure i take long slow hits. I get an acceptable amount of smoke out of it.
• Taste: The first few hits of every session are always the earthy taste (just like its smell but in a warm vapor taste over your tongue) of bud. Its kinda weird at first, but you get used to it. I like it now.
• Feel of vapor: Smooth, you almost forget that you have smoked. Something pretty obvious but did not cross my mind while reading FC, the higher the heat temp, the warmer the vapor. At temp 3 you sorta get burned compared to the caressing smooth feel you get with the temp 1-2.
• It annoyed me that after a few sessions, like a day's worth of usage, the mouth piece got stuck, and I would have to pry it with a tong or something. At the time I was too lazy to clean it, I know daily cleaning is recommended for the best results.
• Cleaning: Its pretty straight forward, for the mouthpiece tunnel, I just used some ISO, q-tip and some OCD dedication and voila. I cleaned it after 4 days of usage, there was a lot of gunk, more than I expected tbh. So I would say a daily clean for that tunnel would be good for the vaps general health. For the all purpose cans, I dump the ABV in a ziplock bag and then re-pack. This weekend though I let them soak in a ISO bath. Also the heating elements on the bottom side of the door, had to be cleaned as they had some stuff on them.
  
• I always smoke the bowl with full circle first, then the hollowed out circle, that way I dont forget which bowl I am on; I usually smoke them back to back.
• Battery life: The normal batteries last me maybe 30 mins-45 mins. Thats how long a session is for me. I have 6 batteries that I rotate, two are the XL version. 4 are the normal ones. I should have bought 4 XL rather than 2. I dont like the small ones as they die out way faster than the big ones. I always have a batteries in my charger, that way I dont run out of juice.
• Clouds: I dont get clouds, but what would you expect, its a vap. I would like someone to explain to me why cloud strength makes a difference with ppl.
• If you have read this far may the higher powers you believe in bless your soul or the chemicals in your mind.

Questions

• Has anyone noticed the vapor density from the second bowl usually is more than the first hit off the first bowl?
• It gets me 6 bowls/cans to feel "medicated/high" at the level I like, which then makes me wonder when do I know that herb is beat? When it tastes of burnt weed? Or should I count my hits? My first few sessions I used to take out the black ABV, I then decided against that because looking around online and on FC, ABV looked mostly brownish. But then, when I was going through the haze best of thread. Someone had pictures of their cans/conduction/convection comparisons and the ABV from the cans was almost light black (if that exsisits) or black. So I am conflicted here.
• When using the convection/conduction screens, how much should they be filled up and is cleaning them hard/annoying?
• I understand that the grinding makes a difference. greater surface area allows you to get the most out of your bud. Does the coffee grinding really make a difference with the haze? Or should I just keep using my normal? Does the haze treat fine grind bud better?
• When do I know that the screens are beat? How often do you change them? Are they also bathed in ISO to clean them?

Other comments?
I hate that the all purpose cans are for 10$. I wonder whats their proft margins on those cans? 900%

Would I recommend it? I dont know if I would, I dont know if I would not. I need to try other vapes to compare.

Thank you for reading my post. I know its long. I am not sorry.

mundzz said:

TL;DR: I like it. Is it worth 250$? I dont know, if you dont mind spending the money and like trying new products give it a go. When I vape I forgot that I did, like 5 mins after, things start getting a little slow I remember “O shit I just toked” because it’s a smooth and clean high.

I got my unit over a week ago. First 4 days I had it, all I did I was smoke. Nothing was done on my end.

Since its my first vape, I really cant compare it with any other, but my bowl.

I only used herbs with the all purpose cans, as I dont am not sure how often do the convection/conduction screens last.

My random thoughts

• First few hits on my first run had my throat drying and coughing like a motherfucker. I suspect it was because I did not run it a few times using it. By day four, I still coughed, but not as much and still get that dry throat feeling. But you get that when you smoke regardless.
• I generally use temp 2, as my normal setting, temp 1 is good as well. I make sure i take long slow hits. I get an acceptable amount of smoke out of it.
• Taste: The first few hits of every session are always the earthy taste (just like its smell but in a warm vapor taste over your tongue) of bud. Its kinda weird at first, but you get used to it. I like it now.
• Feel of vapor: Smooth, you almost forget that you have smoked. Something pretty obvious but did not cross my mind while reading FC, the higher the heat temp, the warmer the vapor. At temp 3 you sorta get burned compared to the caressing smooth feel you get with the temp 1-2.
• It annoyed me that after a few sessions, like a day's worth of usage, the mouth piece got stuck, and I would have to pry it with a tong or something. At the time I was too lazy to clean it, I know daily cleaning is recommended for the best results.
• Cleaning: Its pretty straight forward, for the mouthpiece tunnel, I just used some ISO, q-tip and some OCD dedication and voila. I cleaned it after 4 days of usage, there was a lot of gunk, more than I expected tbh. So I would say a daily clean for that tunnel would be good for the vaps general health. For the all purpose cans, I dump the ABV in a ziplock bag and then re-pack. This weekend though I let them soak in a ISO bath. Also the heating elements on the bottom side of the door, had to be cleaned as they had some stuff on them.
  
• I always smoke the bowl with full circle first, then the hollowed out circle, that way I dont forget which bowl I am on; I usually smoke them back to back.
• Battery life: The normal batteries last me maybe 30 mins-45 mins. Thats how long a session is for me. I have 6 batteries that I rotate, two are the XL version. 4 are the normal ones. I should have bought 4 XL rather than 2. I dont like the small ones as they die out way faster than the big ones. I always have a batteries in my charger, that way I dont run out of juice.
• Clouds: I dont get clouds, but what would you expect, its a vap. I would like someone to explain to me why cloud strength makes a difference with ppl.
• If you have read this far may the higher powers you believe in bless your soul or the chemicals in your mind.

Questions

• Has anyone noticed the vapor density from the second bowl usually is more than the first hit off the first bowl?
• It gets me 6 bowls/cans to feel "medicated/high" at the level I like, which then makes me wonder when do I know that herb is beat? When it tastes of burnt weed? Or should I count my hits? My first few sessions I used to take out the black ABV, I then decided against that because looking around online and on FC, ABV looked mostly brownish. But then, when I was going through the haze best of thread. Someone had pictures of their cans/conduction/convection comparisons and the ABV from the cans was almost light black (if that exsisits) or black. So I am conflicted here.
• When using the convection/conduction screens, how much should they be filled up and is cleaning them hard/annoying?
• I understand that the grinding makes a difference. greater surface area allows you to get the most out of your bud. Does the coffee grinding really make a difference with the haze? Or should I just keep using my normal? Does the haze treat fine grind bud better?
• When do I know that the screens are beat? How often do you change them? Are they also bathed in ISO to clean them?

Other comments?
I hate that the all purpose cans are for 10$. I wonder whats their proft margins on those cans? 900%

Would I recommend it? I dont know if I would, I dont know if I would not. I need to try other vapes to compare.

Thank you for reading my post. I know its long. I am not sorry.

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I tried coffee grinders in the past and never really liked it. I like grinding in a space case 2 piece (for a finer grind) or the Santa Cruz 3 piece (for a coarse grind) hopefully I got the terminology right. You can find a medium size 2 piece space case for $20 on Amazon. I bought the Santa Cruz as a grinder/container.

I would recommend buying eds tnt wong (wood on glass) and hook it up to a bubbler. They sell it on the haze website. I think that is my first recommendation. Hopefully that helps bring some moisture so your throat doesn't dry. If you don't like it with water, it's an extra mouthpiece (1 stainless steel, 1 glass, and 1 wood)

@mundzz hey iust a tip, your not smoking anymore your vaping ! Big difference so remember to use the correct vernacular.

@Mrmrmrmr I was using them interchangeably

thanks mixchu69 I will look into it.

Hello Mundzz or anyone else. I just purchased the haze and saw you also just bought one and have been using it for the last week. I am an everyday SMOKER. I've never used a vaporizer before even to just try. Anyway compared to smoking what do you think of the haze? Are u vaping more than u smoked? Will will my 2 year olds cartoons still be hilarious with vaping rather than my normal smoking?

Megavapatron said:

Hello Mundzz or anyone else. I just purchased the haze and saw you also just bought one and have been using it for the last week. I am an everyday SMOKER. I've never used a vaporizer before even to just try. Anyway compared to smoking what do you think of the haze? Are u vaping more than u smoked? Will will my 2 year olds cartoons still be hilarious with vaping rather than my normal smoking?

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I really like my Haze. Its nowhere near my first vape like you, but it truly is an awesome vape. Its one of my more versatile peices to date. Since youre a combuster and new to vaping (welcome!) here are a few tips that should help for vaporizing:
1. No combustion for two weeks, that means no one hitter, no quick toke off of a friends cigar/j. None
2. Be more aware of the effects when you vape, it is different than smoking. Its not worse or less of an effect, but different because you are not getting smoke "by-products." If you have to question if you are feeling effects from vaping, IMO you are getting a buzz. When you have NO BUZZ its pretty easy to tell. (Back to being more aware) it gets better and better. FC exists....keep that in mind.
3. This is purely subjective to how you combust, but the vaping clouds may not be as big. When you learn how to vape like a pro, the big clouds will come.
4. Take slow draws with the Haze. I should have stated this as number one, but if you're new to vaping, you need to have A LOT of PATIENCE. Its much more sophisticated than combusting.
5. Try keep a log of different things you try with your new vape, a lot of factors can change performance. Temp, Grind, pulls, material, all purpose can vs. Conduction screen vs. Convection screen. Rate your sessions that way you can decide your fav method/factors of usuage.

Going to use my Haze today. Temp 2-3 conduction screen.

Edit- To answer your questions:
1. Vaping with the Haze is signifigantly more enjoyable than smoking
2. I "smoked" more when I combusted. Vaping cut my usuage in HALF. Some weeks, even more.
3. Yes, your 2 year olds cartoons will still be funny but to be honest, maybe not in the "testing phase." When im testing, i am focused and forget about movies or shows playing. After you get vaping down, everything will be funny.

My first vaporizer experience was with an EXQ. I thought that it was not working since I did not see much of anything visible or feel anything on the back of my throat until I got hit with the buzz. Vaping experience is very different than smoking and it will take a while to understand. You need to set your expectations correct. Once you understand and learn vaping, you will never go back to smoking. When it comes to Haze, you really need to experience and use other portables on a daily basis in order to appreciate the Haze and see how much more it offers. Especially when it comes to taste and portability. As a first time user of Haze (especially as a first time user of any vaporizer), you may not understand the full strength of it. Once you receive it, I would go through this thread entirely since we all shared a ton of tips and tricks as we learned more about the product. Overall, you will be loving it after you become a more experienced vaper.

Thanks all for the tips. I can't wait to start experimenting. Also thanks for the great detail. I didnt know it was such a learning curve but well worth it. My lungs will be the happiest im sure.

When I can get in touch with HQ Tangerine Dream or Blue Cheese I go for conduction screens = Amazing taste with great vapor production at all temperatures!

When I can't get in touch with HQ MJ I go for cans with few drops of Ganja Juice (Green Crack) on oil wicks on the bottom than cover with LQ MJ= Crazy vapor production with unbeatable taste!

What the Haze~

PPN said:

Direct out of the box the Haze get a sort of new car smell but outside of the airpath only, I can smell it while heating but I never tasted it!

Be quiet, it quickly disappear!

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PPN et. al.

Thanks for the nice responses to my concern. Unfortunately these do not quell my concern - and, in light of comments re: Haze, raises it more. Here is why a) the odor of particularly black dyed items from China is a well known concern - this is being caused by the dye that they use for the black color. I have experienced it in 3 OTHER products - a sleeping bag, a wool cap, an office chair - all the same. The odor NEVER goes away. The reason you can't smell it after a few uses is because of the herb is so strong that it masks the odor. Organicix is well aware of this in that they try to do baking soda burn-offs but that is not even a good band-aid and definitely does not work.

Frankly, it is not simply the odor as an abstraction or even a scent - it is what the substance of the odor is. The odor is is a very tangible molecular reality that you are really taking into your lungs. NO THANKS!!! My lungs don't need to be inhaling poison with my medicine. Please note that I have an old Vapor Doc - NEVER A PROBLEM with odor whatsoever. Likewise, I have a lovely Sony Flip laptop with black plastic - NO ODOR - for the simple reason that they did not use cheap Chinese materials as all these other products did.

Based on input, which I very much appreciate, I will not readily buy a Haze until I get to smell it first - though now, based on your input, my hopes are pretty dashed. Oh well, my trusty old VaporDoc still does the job - just not very convenient obviously...:-(

I understand your concerns and your explanations...I agree this sort of smell is a bad sign, i.e my Alfa, HA, or Inhalaters never smell like that even direct out the box...
Although I remenber Haze vaporizer already replied about this concern, thet claimed it was safe...

I just received my Haze 2.5 upgrade. It's in that sexy new black and I'm really impressed so far. I spent a nice long time producing good clouds at level one. I enjoyed level 2 as well. Just switched to level 3 and popped it into the D-20...I'm thankful to have this bad boy back.

Hey guys just wanted to let everyone know that haze replaced my first v2.5 for me due to a faulty bowl selector switch and some paint issues on my oven hatch.
Though I was a little upset about this happening after only a month of regular use I must admit that hazes customer service was spot on and they got me a new unit in my hand within a week.
All in all i'm very happy with how they handled my situation and as long as I don't have repeat issues with this unit the haze will continue to be my favorite portable to date.

And now for some haze love!!!
I found a case that fits the haze like it was made for it. (See below)





This case fits so damn good haze should hit up the company and rebrand it with there logo lol.

bubbha ho-tep said:

Hey guys just wanted to let everyone know that haze replaced my first v2.5 for me due to a faulty bowl selector switch and some paint issues on my oven hatch.
Though I was a little upset about this happening after only a month of regular use I must admit that hazes customer service was spot on and they got me a new unit in my hand within a week.
All in all i'm very happy with how they handled my situation and as long as I don't have repeat issues with this unit the haze will continue to be my favorite portable to date.

And now for some haze love!!!
I found a case that fits the haze like it was made for it. (See below)

This case fits so damn good haze should hit up the company and rebrand it with there logo lol.

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Can you tell me how they shipped the replacement? Was it in a paper envelope or a brand new box? The funny thing is that Haze said that there should be no paint because it is not done in Atlanta, GA. I had wet paint too, so now I am thinking where do they paint it?

mixchu69 said:

an you tell me how they shipped the replacement? Was it in a paper envelope or a brand new box? The funny thing is that Haze said that there should be no paint because it is not done in Atlanta, GA. I had wet paint too, so now I am thinking where do they paint it?

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They shipped me only the unit back just like I shipped it to them. No accessories or anything.
It was in a cardboard envelope when i received it back from them, and though that doesn't sound very attractive, I thought it was well packaged and protected enough for travel.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say that haze said there should be no paint??
Why would they ship a new unit without painting it?? Mabye I misunderstood..

And I never had wet paint. My original unit's paint was fine untill about 3-4 weeks of everyday use and then the heat from the oven chambers started to raise/crack the paint finish on the honeycomb areas right above the ovens. (Sounds worse than what it was)
I was informed that the paint specs are going to be different on the next upgrade so this problem doesn't occur.
I'm actually surprised I haven't herd more people on here talking about this issue because imo it had to of been happing to a good number of units for them to want to change the paint specs, But time will tell now that I have a fresh one. I'm keeping a close eye on her lol.

bubbha ho-tep said:

They shipped me only the unit back just like I shipped it to them. No accessories or anything.
It was in a cardboard envelope when i received it back from them, and though that doesn't sound very attractive, I thought it was well packaged and protected enough for travel.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say that haze said there should be no paint??
Why would they ship a new unit without painting it?? Mabye I misunderstood..

And I never had wet paint. My original unit's paint was fine untill about 3-4 weeks of everyday use and then the heat from the oven chambers started to raise/crack the paint finish on the honeycomb areas right above the ovens. (Sounds worse than what it was)
I was informed that the paint specs are going to be different on the next upgrade so this problem doesn't occur.
I'm actually surprised I haven't herd more people on here talking about this issue because imo it had to of been happing to a good number of units for them to want to change the paint specs, But time will tell now that I have a fresh one. I'm keeping a close eye on her lol.

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A few ppl mentioned the paint thing. They told me that paint shouldn't be an issue because they paint it from outside their Georgia factory (not sure what that means). My unit had wet paint from day one, without any heat. When I opened the chamber cover, I had paint on my fingers. I sent them a sample of a used ISO wipe and my blue haze. They returned it the same way you received your replacement and I was worried about the packaging (a small layer of bubble wrap inside a paper envelope). I wished they changed that part to using a small cardboard box (for protective reasons).

mixchu69 said:

A few ppl mentioned the paint thing. They told me that paint shouldn't be an issue because they paint it from outside their Georgia factory (not sure what that means). My unit had wet paint from day one, without any heat. When I opened the chamber cover, I had paint on my fingers. I sent them a sample of a used ISO wipe and my blue haze. They returned it the same way you received your replacement and I was worried about the packaging (a small layer of bubble wrap inside a paper envelope). I wished they changed that part to using a small cardboard box (for protective reasons).

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I agree a small cardboard box would be best because you never know how there gonna handle your mail. But mine had more than jus a single layer of bubble wrap.
That's very odd and unfortunate that that happened to you man, and I agree that seems werid that they don't paint them were there made but there's probably some kind of explanation for that.
How has your replacement unit been?
Have you been having any issues?

I have not been having issues til my last session, where I used a can with the silicone lid. I had shatter in there and tasted the silicone (like the taste of the ascent when I first received it). I soaked and cleaned the silicone with coconut milk. I never had problems with the silicon taste until my last session. Hopefully it's an isolated experience. but it gets me thinking, is my unit running too hot?

Edit. Do you have a link to that case? It's great

chu69 said:

I have not been having issues til my last session, where I used a can with the silicone lid. I had shatter in there and tasted the silicone (like the taste of the ascent when I first received it). I soaked and cleaned the silicone with coconut milk. I never had problems with the silicon taste until my last session. Hopefully it's an isolated experience. but it gets me thinking, is my unit running too hot?

Edit. Do you have a link to that case? It's great

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Hmmm idk i never really taste any silicone while vaping though mine but I mainly use mine for herb so I can't really comment on wax use too much,
And I was gonna post a link for it cause they had a bunch of these cases on amazon but now it looks like there unavailable. But its a case for a gameboy advance sp so if you just search for those cases they'll all fit really good. They have alot of different styles too.