Is the enano worth $85 more than Da Buddha?

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badandy

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I really dig the enano and was almost sold, but up here in Canada the prices work out a little differently. With the dollar and international shipping, an enano will set me back about $240 CAD (includes the FC discount code). I can grab a DBV for only $155 CAD all in.

If faced with the same dilemma, how would you choose?

I clean vapor path is important to me as is herb conservation. Currently all I have is the MFLB but I'm ready for something more consistent with better tasting vape and no accidental combustion.
 
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puddleglum

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Nothing wrong with DBV, it is a really fun party/session vape... but I wouldn't say "clean vapor path" (all-glass would be better than whip-style) or "herb conservation" (you will use a lot more than with your MFLB) are two of its strongest selling points.

I have not tried enano personally.
 
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Hoops

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If you predominantly vape with other people, the DBV may be better for you.

However, if you predominantly vape alone...you'll most likely make that $85 back in the long run due to the micro loads and conserved stash associated with log vapes.

Whether you intend to use water pipes or not also should impact your decision. :2c:
 

max

Out to lunch
The DBV is less versatile, but obviously a better buy for you. The nice thing about the e-nano is that it's capable of being a sipper or a gulper, while the DBV encourages big hits all the time. You can load small and therefore take sips of vapor instead of gulps, but you'll feel like you're just taking hits of air. You'll get the effect of a small hit but not the sensation while taking it. Aside from that, the DBV is a good nominee for 'best buy in a plug-in vape'.

The tubing you get from 7th Floor won't be silicone (which has the least taste), but it doesn't men you're not getting a clean vapor path. What constitutes a clean vapor path is subjective and will vary according to the individual, but if it's clean to you coming out of the heater cover, then IMO it's clean all the way. Vape tubing never gets hot enough for it be an issue, other than taste, and the 7th Floor tubing was never a taste issue for me. YMMV.
you'll most likely make that $85 back in the long run due to the micro loads and conserved stash associated with log vapes.
I wouldn't call a typical e-nano load a 'micro load' myself, but it does depend on the grind consistency and what you're comparing it to. The old Purple Days was a real micro loader, as far as log vapes go. The e-nano, in comparison, can hold quite a bit- much larger diameter vaping stem/tube.

Ultimately, the answer to your question on whether the e-nano is worth the extra money or not is entirely subjective.
 

little maggie

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Or you might check out the underdog. It's another log vape. What I've read from people who have both is they're pretty similar with a few pros or cons for each. I bought the underdog because there are a few models which are under $150 and cost was a factor. Either log vape would be a great purchase. I love it and the customer service is incredible. Both are simple to use with water.
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
The DBV is less versatile, but obviously a better buy for you. The nice thing about the e-nano is that it's capable of being a sipper or a gulper, while the DBV encourages big hits all the time. You can load small and therefore take sips of vapor instead of gulps, but you'll feel like you're just taking hits of air. You'll get the effect of a small hit but not the sensation while taking it. Aside from that, the DBV is a good nominee for 'best buy in a plug-in vape'.

The tubing you get from 7th Floor won't be silicone (which has the least taste), but it doesn't men you're not getting a clean vapor path. What constitutes a clean vapor path is subjective and will vary according to the individual, but if it's clean to you coming out of the heater cover, then IMO it's clean all the way. Vape tubing never gets hot enough for it be an issue, other than taste, and the 7th Floor tubing was never a taste issue for me. YMMV.

I wouldn't call a typical e-nano load a 'micro load' myself, but it does depend on the grind consistency and what you're comparing it to. The old Purple Days was a real micro loader, as far as log vapes go. The e-nano, in comparison, can hold quite a bit- much larger diameter vaping stem/tube.

Ultimately, the answer to your question on whether the e-nano is worth the extra money or not is entirely subjective.

I seldom (actually never) disagree with Max, but think I have to here. Really hard for me to say if DBV stock tubing has a "taste". The smell turned me off too much to really get a feel for taste. Silicone is a necessary upgrade IMO, but it doesn't seem to bother many so you may be OK with it.

Also never had the opportunity to try a PD when they were available, but the nano is capable (and best IMO) with what I consider "micro" loads. I'd say about 1/2 of what you'd use in a full MFLB trench. That's not to say you can't put more in it. Most use something called an adjust-a-bowl that allows you to change size of the actual load "chamber".

I also don't know if I totally agree with the simple comparison between sipper and gulper as explained here. I've found the DBV to be extremely unsatisfying with smaller loads. Feeling like you are taking hits of air does describe it pretty well. If loaded as most do (with a fuller load) it is very hard to resist hitting it like the big hitter it intrinsically is. Also, taste will drop off quickly (usually in first couple hits with most vapes) which not only kills some of the thrill I get from vapor, but also makes it hard to judge where you are with your vaping due to less feedback.

By comparison, the nano and other log vapes can be easily used with much less material in a load. For me this is about 2 -3 hits, so flavor stays constant through the load. This leads me (and seems many others) to conserve much more. Can't honestly say whether this is because the nano is that much more effecient on a truly scientific scale, but I have always used much less material to get and maintain the same buzz as I would with a DBV or EQ.

I usually go through two loads (sometimes 3) with my nano for a good session. With my EQ I would do the same, and on a friends DBV I've used many times it would usually be about 2. Differences are that the 2 or 3 nano loads are still much less material, and of course it takes a bit more work and playing to dump and reload. I haven't done any scientific experiments to determine if I get the exact same amount of THC or other actives, but I do know I get and stay as stoned on less than 1/3 material with the nano than I used to with my EQ, or would probably get with DBV. YMMV, but seems this is pretty typical experience from reports of other users. May also be worth noting that EQ was my daily driver for more than 2 years, have used the DBV regularly (couple times a month unless I bring nano to friends) for more than 3, and nano has been my daily driver for about past 2 years.

What you'd want to get, and what you want out of it is very subjective. Some people really like the big pretty clouds and cool look of the DBV sitting on a table. It does look like it is there to do some serious business. But even without scientific studies, I think from all of the testimonials here on FC that the nano (or other log vapes) will lead to same results with much less material for most if not all users. For me that has converted to about $150 saved every month for past two years. And, when you're talking about spending $85 more out of the gate (lets say $100 to consider a $15 GonG for nano) - and probably another $50 - $100 for a decent cheap bubbler to get the most you can out it - to save over $3,000 in a 2 year period definitely ain't subjective for me!
 

Breathemetal

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You sound just like my buddy who is often pissed with me because I'm not ready to re-up and split a bag with him nearly as much anymore. He loves his DBV. I love my nano and my fatter wallet every month!

I love my fat juicy heart soaked hits, and my fat wallet. So ha dbv wins...lol
:p

I wanted a log vape at one point. Maybe I'll want one again
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
I love my fat juicy heart soaked hits, and my fat wallet. So ha dbv wins...lol
:p

I wanted a log vape at one point. Maybe I'll want one again

You should check one out for at least a little bit. If you don't like it, they seem to go pretty fast on the classifieds for nearly retail. Better yet... snag one up there and sell for same you buy it for or more. Then again, good chance that DBV would end up there first.

Doesn't take much practice to pull tasty clouds off one, and no matter how fat your wallet is - I think for most people fatter is better! :D

Cutting the budget by more than half on one of the biggest monthly expenses is a beautiful thing. Now just wish I could figure out how to do the same with gas for the car and heat for the house!
 

biohacker

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Good question, and just wanted to chime in that although I can't really confirm, and nothing scientific, but i'm pretty sure my LSV (similar to DBV) gets me alot more medicated than my Nano, surely because of how much i'm loading in it, but I think hitting it all at once compared to several bowls/sessions with the Nano might may a difference? I dunno, maybe it's the novelty of my new LSV, or i'm hitting more material than usual, but i'll definitely have to keep an eye on it and keep comparing.

FWIW, I can't see myself without the LSV and Nano in my collection, although I do realize money to be more precious in this situation. I would still choose my Nano over the LSV (or DBV).
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Question: will 0.25 (2-3 bowls or so) in an enano get you more medicated than the same amount (typical wand load) in a dbv?

I really can't say for certain as I haven't weighed out a specific small amount like that and compared. Also, kind of difficult for me because nano most often at home by myself and DBV with friend at his place. We usually get together to vape twice a month on average - sometimes with nano, but more often with DBV. But yes, that does seem to be the case.

0.25 is a bit more than I would use on a typical weeknight (first buzz of day) to get going and stay there for most of the evening. On DBV we pass back and forth, but usually go through 4 or 5 DBV loads between both of us (so about 4x amount but split between 2 people). I get same or more of a buzz, and much better flavor through session, at home with the nano or if we use it instead. He thinks the buzz is about the same with 6 - 8 nano loads between two of us, but really loves the DBV and refuses to think about another vape until it dies or the "perfect" vape is available for less than $200. He also likes that he doesn't have to reload as often. Load, sit back, grab the hose when you want a hit, reloading less than 1/2 as much and not having to fiddle with things as much.

I also found with use with same person or by myself that EQ was very similar to DBV in terms of how much material to get to same level. I've used them side by side more than a few times. I honestly know the EQ much better, as it was my daily driver for a couple years. There I know my comparison is dead on. I would use about 2 1/2 - 3 times as much daily as nano (I think more relevant here weekly & monthly) to get the same results of where I've been hovering for the past 4 or 5 years with my regular routine. Also, better flavor and more pleasant experience all around (from ease of stirring to space used on table top to dealing with tubing and other factors). The most difficult part of the transition for me was remembering to grind less material at one time.

It really is a matter of what you prefer. My friend likes the cool "weed-machine" look of the DBV, and kicking back on the sofa while just reaching for the hose and hitting it. I like the small form factor of the nano, don't mind being more active through my session and like using a water piece more while vaping. I also like the fact I use so much less material. His opinion is that he is still using much less than when combusting (which he still does regularly), and he's fine with that.

Either is a fine vape, and easy to see how someone could love either. But IME, the nano does give same effect as DBV or EQ (and solo for that matter) with much less material. Only thing I find close in terms of efficiency is my vapman - and that's a whole different story.
 

max

Out to lunch
Question: will 0.25 (2-3 bowls or so) in an enano get you more medicated than the same amount (typical wand load) in a dbv?
I've used both the e-nano and SSV (essentially the same as the DBV) for years, and no, there's no efficiency 'magic' to the e-nano nor waste from the 7th Floor models. Sure you'll lose a little more vapor to condensation with a length of vape tubing, vs. the short stem on the nano, but other than that, any difference in effect will be due to load differences and hit size. Many people have said that they can't get as high from a log vape (more so the older designs with very small bowl and narrow vapor path - PD and Aromazap), vs. a big hitter, and since you can't get get a big dose all at once with a restricted hitter, that's true. It doesn't mean the log vape is less efficient though, it's just a sipper instead of a big gulp. There were times, back when I used the tiny capacity PD, that I enjoyed getting 8-10 hits from the small amount you could load. There were other times though, when I much preferred to get that little bowl load all in one hit from my SSV. It all depends on the effect you're seeking at the moment, and it can be hard to find a satisfactory big hitter/little sipper all in one vape. The e-nano fits that bill very well, just like the Solo bridges the plug-in/portable gap better than pretty much any other model.

Luckily for us vaporists, vaporization is a simple process, and good quality vapes don't waste herb due to design. The differences we perceive in effect are due to differences in delivery method, and how much vapor a particular model can provide per hit. Using temp settings differently and exhaling huge clouds of vapor 2 seconds after inhale will make tons more difference, effect and efficiency wise, than any difference between vape designs.
 

Melting Pot

Sick & Twisted
I really love my E-nano.Its really efficient with its adjust-a-bowl.and compact size.
On the other hand with the 85$ u could get an oil kit with the DBV and have an awesome piece of equip.
Or just buy both. HaHa

(edit) DBV in the classified
 
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max

Out to lunch
I really dig the enano and was almost sold, but up here in Canada the prices work out a little differently. With the dollar and international shipping, an enano will set me back about $240 CAD (includes the FC discount code). I can grab a DBV for only $155 CAD all in.

If faced with the same dilemma, how would you choose?

I clean vapor path is important to me as is herb conservation. Currently all I have is the MFLB but I'm ready for something more consistent with better tasting vape and no accidental combustion.
I count 19 replies to your question, see that you were logged on last night, yet no responses from you. 'What should I buy threads' have a limited lifespan, especially when the thread starter doesn't participate. The clock is running out here.
 

badandy

New Member
Hey all - just wanted to thank you for the responses. Really great info here.

I've decided it's indeed worth it to just go for a nano. The LSV is a great option too but it's not as readily available in Canada and runs about the same price as the nano would.

With all the positive feedback seems like I can't go wrong.
 

lazylathe

Almost there...
Another Canuck here!

E-Nano all the way bro!!
I have had my bad times with it and am now on extremely good terms with it!!
The bad times were in the beginning with the learning curve, my first real vape with such sensitive adjustments!
Now the good times are here!! Found my sweet spot on the dial and she is left on 24/7 at the correct temp!

Load up a stem of some of BC's finest and you are soon in a taste sensation, then some serious wallops to the face and then seriously medicated!!!

Super easy to use dry or with a WT of any size!

I love my Nano!!!
 

grokit

well-worn member
It's only to/fro the usa to canada, but if either of these two vapes develop any issues the e-nano would be cheaper to mail back and forth. Otherwise it's just the size of the hits. If you're an old-school combuster, get the dbv as it will offer much bigger hits. If efficiency/conservancy of material is paramount get the enano.
 
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